13:00:02 <zsun> #startmeeting FZUG
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13:00:03 <BadGirl> [2010-08-20 22:18:24] Posted by z/odbot@fedora-zh already: MeetBot - Debian Wiki
13:00:06 <zsun> #topic Roll Call
13:00:11 <zsun> .hellomynameis zsun
13:00:12 <zodbot> zsun: zsun 'Ziqian SUN (Zamir)' <sztsian@gmail.com>
13:00:23 <zsun> #chair gbraad bexelbie
13:00:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: bexelbie gbraad zsun
13:01:17 <zsun> anyone else online?
13:08:42 * bexelbie is here
13:08:51 <bexelbie> .hello bex
13:08:52 <zsun> ah
13:08:52 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com>
13:08:59 <zsun> ping gbraad ?
13:09:09 * bexelbie 's irc client had decided that beeping is optional today
13:09:25 <zsun> bexelbie: IMO you've started DST since Monday, is this timeslot still fits you?
13:09:53 <zsun> China do not run Daylight Saving Time
13:10:37 <bexelbie> zsun, the time is fine.  I tend to be focused on tasks which require uninterupted blocks of time on Fridays so I often lose track of time
13:10:45 <bexelbie> but there is no point moving hte meeting just for me :)
13:11:05 <zsun> ok,
13:11:16 <zsun> well let's wait for gbraad
13:11:28 <zsun> hope he is available
13:13:57 <zsun> no response from gbraad by Wechat as well
13:14:24 <zsun> bexelbie: so maybe we just sync up quickly, and then I drop summary to gbraad later?
13:14:28 <zsun> #chair pany
13:14:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: bexelbie gbraad pany zsun
13:14:53 <pany> .hellomynameis pany
13:14:54 <zodbot> pany: pany 'Pany' <geekpany@gmail.com>
13:15:15 <bexelbie> sure
13:15:45 <zsun> so we've no updates from China since, er, two weeks ago maybe
13:15:55 <zsun> #topic LinuxCon
13:16:03 <zsun> ah,forget to change topic
13:16:40 <zsun> bexelbie: how is the Council vFAD going, any thing useful for LinuxCon Beijing?
13:17:08 <bexelbie> Indirectly, yes the Council FAD resulted in some ideas around China.  At this time, I can't say what yet as we are finishing hte outbound reporting now
13:17:24 <bexelbie> At this time, I think the best would be to say that I believe the following are true:
13:17:34 <bexelbie> 1. Fedora has not yet asked the Linux Foundation for a booth
13:17:34 * zsun listening
13:17:48 <bexelbie> 2. We may be able to get a few people to help at the booth, but we don't have a firm messaging plan
13:18:01 <bexelbie> 3. The Local RH office submitted some talks but none were Fedora themed
13:18:02 <bexelbie> is this right?
13:18:08 <zsun> absoletely
13:19:09 <zsun> that is all we have now
13:19:15 <bexelbie> Do we think we have any experienced sys admins or devs who would be free to attend the Fedora Booth for our community at the event?
13:19:59 <zsun> I think I can ask some guy from local RH, and see if he can help
13:20:12 <zsun> it lies on work day, so we can not guarantee
13:21:15 <zsun> #action zsun ask some sys admins from Red Hat Raycom to see if they are willing to help with Fedora Booth during LinuxCon Beijing
13:21:20 <zsun> I take the action
13:21:42 <bexelbie> I would encourage us to look at this as a "do we have interest" not "finding commitment" yet
13:22:15 <bexelbie> I want to get the Council FAD information out and then re-engage here as we will all have the same inforamtion at that point
13:22:41 <zsun> in this way, personally I think we need to figure out what output we want to (and what we can) benefit from holding a booth there
13:24:53 <zsun> make more people know Fedora seems not specific enough
13:26:28 <bexelbie> that is 100% true
13:26:38 <bexelbie> I think you will get some guidance on this from the outbound report from the Council FAD
13:26:51 * bexelbie doesn't mean to be coy, but we need the messaging to be clear
13:27:04 <bexelbie> the messaging from the council FAD and the booth :)
13:27:20 <zsun> will read the report when available
13:27:27 <bexelbie> I hope by Tuesday
13:27:28 <bexelbie> :)
13:28:28 <zsun> Till now I think at least we figured out the problem to ask our selves - output. Although we've been talking about this aimlessly the first week
13:28:54 <bexelbie> zsun, we have definitely had a round decision making process
13:29:57 <zsun> Yes. And generally I am still neutral either Fedora to attend or not in LinuxCon.
13:30:55 <zsun> accountable, which is not so easy from the very beginning, but useful for making decisions now..
13:31:49 <gbraad> sorry, unable to attend the meeting...
13:31:55 <zsun> gbraad: fine
13:32:00 <zsun> take care
13:32:06 <gbraad> thanks
13:32:14 <zsun> gbraad: hope you still enjoy your time with family ;-)
13:32:19 <gbraad> will followup by email if needed
13:32:26 <gbraad> :-)
13:32:30 <bexelbie> zsun, I respect your neutrality here.  I am thinking that we may have a council desire to attend that may result in a request to the local community for support.  Let's follow up after the council report :)
13:33:28 <zsun> bexelbie: sure. And I am fine to support, while just need to figure out a better way or at least the expected output :-)
13:33:57 <bexelbie> zsun, yes
13:34:06 <gbraad> booth attendance from my side is no problem
13:34:15 <bexelbie> and, if we participate, a good secondary goal can be related to Chinese participation in the project, if that is helpful
13:34:28 <zsun> gbraad: thanks
13:34:43 <gbraad> although, bex prefers Chinese ;-)
13:35:25 <bexelbie> gbraad, sort of :) ... mainly I want to make sure that we have sufficient Mandarin/dialect speakers to really be able to engage with an audience
13:35:35 <bexelbie> I have done failed events in Asia where the lack of locals killed the ability to interact
13:35:43 <gbraad> understandable
13:36:11 <gbraad> we both agree on this, so I usually take a supporting role
13:36:12 <zsun> bexelbie gbraad we should be able to find some Mandarin speaking member to help
13:37:04 <zsun> gbraad: I see shiywang as a backup option there
13:37:45 <zsun> (Hope I did not make any language grammar problem for the previous sentence)
13:38:01 <gbraad> anyways. I believe this is no issue...
13:38:30 <gbraad> the goals and possible results (what we aim for) need to be described...
13:39:04 * gbraad has to run off now (but I believe we can follow-up on this by email thread)
13:39:12 <zsun> gbraad: ok, thanks
13:40:22 <zsun> bexelbie: I can just wait for the report now?
13:40:40 <bexelbie> sounds good
13:41:03 <zsun> ok, thanks
13:41:30 <zsun> it is always good to have someone in Council knows the real status in China
13:44:37 <zsun> so @all, anything else
13:45:12 * zsun pretending there are many people in the meeting
13:45:28 * bexelbie has nothing else
13:45:31 <zsun> if nothing else, I'll close the meeting
13:45:32 <zsun> thanks
13:45:38 <bexelbie> ty for running hte meeting zsun
13:45:54 <zsun> thanks for attending
13:45:59 <zsun> #endmeeting