13:02:20 <zsun> #startmeeting FZUG 13:02:20 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri May 26 13:02:20 2017 UTC. The chair is zsun. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:02:20 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:02:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fzug' 13:02:20 <BadGirl> [2010-08-20 22:18:24] Posted by z/odbot@fedora-zh already: MeetBot - Debian Wiki 13:02:26 <zsun> #topic Roll Call 13:02:30 <zsun> .hellomynameis zsun 13:02:30 <zodbot> zsun: zsun 'Ziqian SUN (Zamir)' <sztsian@gmail.com> 13:02:37 <zsun> #chair gbraad gbraad_ bexelbie 13:02:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: bexelbie gbraad gbraad_ zsun 13:03:37 <kaio> hihi 13:03:47 <zsun> #chair kaio 13:03:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: bexelbie gbraad gbraad_ kaio zsun 13:04:06 <kaio> .hellomynameis kaio 13:04:07 <zodbot> kaio: kaio 'Caius Chance (かいお)' <me@kaio.net> 13:04:26 <lch[m]> hello from riot client 13:04:33 <kaio> hi lch 13:04:49 <zsun> hi lch[m] 13:07:38 <bexelbie> .hello bex 13:07:39 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com> 13:07:45 <zsun> hi bexelbie 13:08:18 <zsun> wait some more minutes for gbraad 13:09:14 <gbraad_> Hi 13:09:20 <zsun> gbraad_ hi 13:09:23 <zsun> let's get started 13:09:26 <zsun> #topic LinuxCon 13:09:57 <gbraad_> I am a little dozed. On medication... 13:10:12 <gbraad_> .hello gbraad 13:10:13 <zodbot> gbraad_: gbraad 'Gerard Braad (吉拉德)' <me+fedora@gbraad.nl> 13:10:26 <zsun> gbraad_ oh. take care 13:11:11 <zsun> I think we are almost decided to hold the community meetup on Saturday, June 17th, right 13:11:13 <zsun> ? 13:11:23 <gbraad_> Right 13:11:37 <zsun> and now I think we are done with schedule 13:12:06 <zsun> so we can start to break up actions and start preparing (logistics etc.) 13:12:53 <gbraad_> bexelbie this fits your schedule. Correct? 13:17:42 <zsun> gbraad_ bexelbie I'll start working on a document for planning https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sZ4SUPc3FEKCv4W_vSDcyY_fY8c9WV31pq2MX3_slpQ/edit?usp=sharing 13:17:42 <BadGirl> LinuxCon Beijing 2017 Fedora event planning - Google Docs 13:18:21 <zsun> gbraad_ bexelbie granted you write permission to your both working and personal account 13:18:30 <teleboto> [alick9188] Meeting ongoing? 13:18:39 <zsun> hi Alick, yes 13:18:40 <gbraad_> Check 13:18:53 <gbraad_> Will open this after the meeting 13:18:54 <zsun> @alick9188 feel free to join by IRC or telegram 13:19:07 <zsun> gbraad_ no hurry, it's empty at the moment ;-) 13:19:41 <gbraad_> I think a lot will have to focus on media/social attention 13:20:47 <zsun> gbraad_ unfortunately I still did not get any response from cicku 13:21:04 <gbraad_> Brb 13:21:14 <gbraad_> Just continue 13:21:24 <zsun> gbraad_ currently I know Charles will help via the Red Hat channels (wechat subscription account, weibo etc.) 13:23:10 <gbraad_> OK, good 13:23:40 <gbraad_> But we might have to ask Christopher to post for us instead 13:23:56 <zsun> gbraad_ that also depends on when he can see my email 13:24:07 <zsun> gbraad_ I will certainly remind again 13:24:30 <gbraad_> I could try to reach him on FB 13:24:46 <zsun> gbraad_ that would be helpful 13:25:55 <zsun> gbraad_ I'll be the event owner for the community meetup then? 13:26:47 <gbraad_> If you don't mind. Else I can share... But it would be nice if you reach out to many for this 13:26:53 <gbraad_> Pany 13:27:32 <teleboto> [geekpany] yes？ 13:27:51 <zsun> we have educational event(Red Hat will help), meet-and-greet(not sure if Red Hat will handle or not) 13:28:15 <zsun> @geekpany I am asked to remind you of helping on the community meetup 13:28:49 <teleboto> [geekpany] sure 13:28:58 <gbraad_> Geekpany, would you be willing to help zsun with the community event. You can learn a lot from this 13:29:12 <zsun> @geekpany see the link (google doc) I pasted. And if you want to know more things in Chinese, I will explain this in Chinese after the meeting 13:29:16 <gbraad_> But no obligation... Volunteer 13:30:26 <zsun> gbraad_ I hope you can be the event owner for the educational event, and I just help with communication/logistics 13:30:40 <zsun> since you know more about how it should happen ;-) 13:30:41 <teleboto> [geekpany] sure 13:30:46 <gbraad_> Ok 13:31:03 <zsun> gbraad_ and I know Charles planned to help 13:31:18 <zsun> I mean he will help the Friday events 13:33:17 <zsun> gbraad_ and what we need for the meetup. Promoting yes 13:33:40 <zsun> gbraad_: food? if so, who shall I ask for sponsor 13:34:10 <zsun> gbraad_ and the biggest question, where... 13:34:40 <gbraad_> This is related to the community event? 13:34:51 <gbraad_> ^^^ 13:35:04 <zsun> gbraad_ yes, I am talking about the community meetup Saturday evening 13:35:10 * gbraad_ lost focus due to medicine 13:35:31 <zsun> gbraad_ since students are taking exams that week. And I already know TUNA cannot help 13:35:31 <gbraad_> I have no idea yet... But has to be by subway preferably 13:35:47 <gbraad_> No sanlitun, too expensive 13:36:13 <zsun> gbraad_ so that should be some café ? 13:36:34 <gbraad_> Well, we can ask BLUG if they have plans 13:36:54 <gbraad_> If not, we do our own thing 13:37:48 <gbraad_> Office location maybe? 13:37:56 <gbraad_> And if so, who? 13:38:03 <zsun> gbraad_ office? 13:38:15 <zsun> gbraad_ 9F Pantry? 13:38:25 <zsun> if so, the only question is about food 13:39:13 <gbraad_> We should have or regional budget 13:39:28 <gbraad_> s/or/our 13:40:06 <zsun> gbraad_ ok. I'll reach out to APAC. Although they already declined my request for meetup during the planning meeting 13:40:23 <gbraad_> Declined?!? 13:41:03 <zsun> gbraad_ yes. The FY18 Fedora APAC budget planning meeting held July 2016. 13:41:13 <zsun> All request for mainland China are declined 13:41:58 <gbraad_> >:-/ 13:42:10 <zsun> with an excuse 'you can always find Red Hat for help' 13:42:34 <zsun> in fact all meetup are declined (SG, IN, CN). With the same reply 13:42:53 <gbraad_> bexelbie ^^^ 13:43:18 <zsun> I will definitely file a ticket to query again. 13:43:20 <gbraad_> What is the motivation? 13:44:00 <zsun> sirko: To reduce smaller events and focus on bigger events with limited money 13:44:15 <gbraad_> Too little budget? Or just blocking to prevent communities from growing 13:44:54 <zsun> And for Greater China, they decided to sponsor for Fedora involving into COSCUP in Taiwan. 13:45:01 <gbraad_> Makes no sense in light of his own comments in Cambodia and recently in person 13:46:00 <zsun> while you know, I am not allowed to go to Taiwan alone :-( 13:46:15 <zsun> but that is another point. Let's get down to the tasks 13:46:35 <gbraad_> That last I heard and this makes no sense! 13:46:37 <gbraad_> That is like: lets organize an event for Hong Kong in Japan 13:46:54 <zsun> #action zsun figure out expenses for community meetup and file a ticket to request for budget 13:46:56 <gbraad_> Yes 13:47:51 <zsun> gbraad_ so what? I don't want to join the APAC budget planning meeting again. No sense and it takes a lot of money (both for APAC and for myself) 13:47:55 <gbraad_> zsun I believe the Taiwan situation allows 个人 13:48:33 <zsun> gbraad_ the point is, only allowed individuals born and registered in the allowed cities. While I am not 13:48:57 <gbraad_> Ah 13:49:00 <gbraad_> :-( 13:49:18 <gbraad_> They have no clue then 13:49:42 <zsun> I already told them. And that is why this year I refuse to take the event owner of COSCUP involvement. 13:49:55 <gbraad_> Good! 13:50:16 <gbraad_> This makes me furious... Really 13:50:30 <gbraad_> Not to you 13:50:40 <gbraad_> But ok. Let's.continue 13:51:11 <gbraad_> Will have to leave soon 13:51:13 <zsun> gbraad_ I prefer to sponsor some snacks only 13:51:22 <zsun> for the community meetup 13:51:27 <zsun> otherwise, it is costly 13:52:18 <gbraad_> Agree 13:52:38 <zsun> gbraad_ or pizza 13:53:04 <gbraad_> Might be an option 13:54:29 <gbraad_> If you don't mind, I will be off now. Feel bad 13:54:39 <lch[m]> 我终于想起来上个星期没想起来的那个问题了 13:54:39 <zsun> gbraad_ I think it needs some time to break down everything. I will try to handle it during the dragon boat holiday and remind you and bexelbie 13:54:58 <zsun> lch[m]: wait a minutes, we still need to finish the current topic 13:55:16 <zsun> gbraad_ any more to update? 13:56:48 <zsun> ok I'll switch the topic 13:56:52 <zsun> #topic Open Floor 13:56:58 <zsun> lch[m]: 好了，请讲 13:58:07 <teleboto> [zsun_remote] 「Re zsun: lch[m]: ...」@lichs ? 13:58:21 <lch[m]> 接着上周的，在发现那个 fedora.portingdb.xyz 之后 13:58:37 <lch[m]> 然后发现其中有一个包有点问题 13:59:29 <lch[m]> 所以我应该是直接把对应包的 rpm 仓库给 clone 下来改好再提交 PR 吗？ 14:00:20 <zsun> 仓库是在 pkgs.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ 还是在 fedora.portingdb.xyz? 14:00:40 <lch[m]> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/ 14:00:41 <BadGirl> Fedora Project Packages GIT repositories 14:01:01 <zsun> lch[m]: oh, 那建议你到bugzilla.redhat.com报个bug 14:01:42 <lch[m]> 也就是说不推荐直接把相应的 Git 仓库 clone 下来自己搞是吗？ 14:01:56 <zsun> 这个地址的内容是rpm打包的脚本，并且是个cgit，没有办法提PR 14:02:06 <zsun> 所以最佳的办法是报bug了 14:03:03 <lch[m]> 但是看了一下那个仓库的 commit history，最后一次由人进行的 commit 操作已经是两年前了 14:03:16 <lch[m]> 之后都是 Fedora Release Engineering 14:03:20 <zsun> lch[m]: 方便把地址发给我么 14:03:28 <lch[m]> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/wtop.git/ 14:03:29 <BadGirl> rpms/wtop.git - wtop 14:03:42 <lch[m]> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/wtop.git/tree/wtop.spec 14:03:42 <BadGirl> wtop.spec - rpms/wtop.git - wtop 14:04:04 <lch[m]> 这个包的仍然在从 google code 上拖源代码 14:04:27 <zsun> lch[m]: ok.我知道了。 Kushal Das最近太忙了 14:04:29 <lch[m]> 然而实际上原作者已经转移到 Github 上并且有了更新的版本 14:04:47 <zsun> 你愿意做一些packaging工作么？ 14:05:21 <zsun> 如果愿意，可以尝试在bug里面提交你的patch，以及问问他能否让你成为co-maintainer 14:05:23 <lch[m]> 愿意 14:05:36 <zsun> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/wtop/ 14:05:38 <BadGirl> rpms/wtop | PkgDB 14:05:38 <lch[m]> 不过感觉自己什么都不懂 14:05:49 <zsun> lch[m]: 其实我也不懂。。 14:06:07 <zsun> 我当前只维护一个包，也是照葫芦画瓢 14:06:48 <lch[m]> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=983959 14:06:49 <BadGirl> Bug 983959 – [abrt] wtop-0.6.8-3.fc19: logrep:289:runit:IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/httpd/access_log' 14:06:53 <zsun> 我先结束会议，然后慢慢跟你说吧 14:06:59 <lch[m]> 这个包有一个 open 的 bug 14:07:03 <zsun> #endmeeting