13:00:29 #startmeeting FZUG 13:00:30 Meeting started Fri Jul 14 13:00:29 2017 UTC. The chair is zsun. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:30 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:00:30 The meeting name has been set to 'fzug' 13:00:30 [2010-08-20 22:18:24] Posted by z/odbot@fedora-zh already: MeetBot - Debian Wiki 13:00:34 #topic Roll Call 13:00:40 .hellomynameis zsun 13:00:41 zsun: zsun 'Ziqian SUN (Zamir)' 13:00:54 #chair tonghuix tonghuix[m] gbraad_ p4per318 13:00:54 Current chairs: gbraad_ p4per318 tonghuix tonghuix[m] zsun 13:01:31 anyone else online? 13:01:48 😳 13:01:52 me 13:01:55 #chai lchh 13:02:00 #chair lchh 13:02:01 Current chairs: gbraad_ lchh p4per318 tonghuix tonghuix[m] zsun 13:02:46 anyone else? 13:03:37 可能没有了。。。:-( 13:03:51 照惯例,等一会儿 13:04:28 今晚有需要讨论的内容,但是我无法参与任何决定。 13:05:00 好的 13:07:32 tonghuix tonghuix[m] gbraad_ are you online? 13:10:15 好吧,我只好假设他们都不在 13:10:19 #topic Fedora 26 13:10:29 #info Fedora 26 released this Tuesday! 13:10:35 周二Fedora 26 正式发布了 13:11:14 嗯嗯,贴吧看到了😁 13:11:35 可惜人不在家没法上机体验 13:12:41 感觉差距似乎不大 13:12:58 lchh 我隐约记得有一天在irc里大家有聊F26? 13:14:13 网不好,老断线 13:14:24 可以telegram 13:14:53 Fedora 26 关机的错误提示还是存在 13:14:56 [TrustyWolf] 来啦 13:15:12 来了 13:15:15 刚刚吃饭回来 13:15:28 .hellomynameis tonghuix 13:15:29 tonghuix[m]: tonghuix 'None' 13:15:36 lchh: 是的,还存在 13:15:51 hi @TrustyWolf 13:15:59 tonghuix[m]: hi。 13:16:06 hi 13:16:27 tonghuix[m]: 所以你可以讨论发行派对了 13:16:31 [TrustyWolf] .hellomynameis trustywolf 13:16:41 明天肯定是取消了对吧 13:16:57 @TrustyWolf 在Telegram那边没办法用FAS相关命令 13:17:01 我个人倾向是放到下个周末吧 13:17:07 [TrustyWolf] ◝( ˙ ꒳ ˙ )◜ 13:17:11 下周六如何? 13:17:17 tonghuix[m]: 我看到你发邮件说取消,我转发给site了 13:17:31 P.S. 我这几天也得空调病了 13:17:44 身体状态也欠佳 13:17:53 tonghuix[m]: 这次我完全无法决定 - 我直到29日之前一天休班都没有。所以才不得不让你直接与Shiyang Wang联系 13:18:03 #chair trustywolf 13:18:03 Current chairs: gbraad_ lchh p4per318 tonghuix tonghuix[m] trustywolf zsun 13:18:11 好久没有这么多人参会过了 13:18:13 现在希望可以放到下周六吧 13:18:28 ?有什么活动嘛 13:18:37 F26的release party 13:18:50 我看到似乎Gerard与你有些邮件讨论 (我没仔细看内容),建议你跟他确定一下 13:19:02 如果推到下周六就不要mini了 13:19:07 还是专题一下比较好 13:19:16 此外没有CfP不太妥当吧 13:19:20 趁这个时间多积累一些演讲 13:19:26 对的,就是想说需要CFP 13:19:48 #action CFP for F26 release party 13:19:54 嗯?在北京嘛? 13:20:01 咳咳,CfP的话,下周来得及么 13:20:06 p4per318: 对,北京 13:20:12 额。。在北京 13:20:17 来得及,抓紧宣传是足够的 13:20:28 太好了,不一定我就去了😏 13:20:39 tonghuix[m]: action命令是要加fas的,默认action之后第一个词是fas 13:20:44 还以为又要图草。。为啥在北京 13:21:01 #action tonghuix CFP for F26 release party 13:22:06 zsun 13:22:16 ? 13:22:25 我记得隔壁debian9的发布派对在清华大学 13:22:29 zsun,问你一个事,如果和其他社区合办活动,APAC那边有什么规定? 13:22:40 那就等于不是Fedora主办的活动 13:22:52 因为上海SHLUG可能会打算合办和其他发行版的活动 13:22:54 只等于活动办了 13:23:04 上海那种地方另外讨论 13:23:16 按要求是 必须有大使在现场 13:23:26 我是打算过去 13:23:43 那你得提前申请。发行派对是不给差旅费的 13:24:07 差旅费不是我关心的,我关心的是能否算作是咱们社区给APAC的贡献 13:24:20 省得总是说咱们不干活动。。。 13:26:02 那我的建议是提前走完整流程 - ticket(物资,我手里现在只有LinuxCon剩下的那一点贴纸了,完全不够北京的),CfP,提前一周宣传,有有效的新贡献者(必须是有效的)或者新的活跃参与者 13:26:36 前面的都好说,最后的这个比较麻烦 13:26:37 你是说这次北京的release party? 13:26:42 还是上海预计要做的? 13:26:56 我是说通常意义上讲 13:27:18 基本上此前我做release party都要1个月以上的时间才能完成全部准备工作 13:27:39 LinuxCon你也知道,准备了一个季度 13:27:52 物资咱们又不需要从APAC要 13:28:02 不,这不是需要不需要,这是流程 13:28:04 CFP和活动宣传放在一起是可以的 13:28:21 宣传,是要带着talk的那种才性 13:28:38 此前是,没有具体的schedule,ticket是不批准的 13:28:47 咱们的实践经验是带不带talk来的人不会多也不会少 13:29:19 那是北京 - 所以最近APAC认为中国大陆没有活动 - 因为他们没有看到新的贡献者嘛 13:29:31 我是那种严守规矩的 13:29:38 你应该很了解我这方面的作风。。。 13:29:56 严守规矩结果没有新贡献者 13:30:06 适度灵活一下 13:30:28 现在我能做的是把身边人发展成新贡献者 13:30:36 我我我! 13:30:46 那就是没有完整流程,无法满足社区对活动的 accountable 要求,还是个问题嘛 13:30:51 对对,这是个新贡献者。。 13:31:05 所以发个新ticket即可 13:31:09 这是Bex和Gerard在LinuxCon发展的新贡献者。。 13:31:14 新系统我还没用过。。可以这次练习一下 13:31:34 唉,我最近实在无能为力 13:32:12 刚好我这半年都在北京 13:32:19 建议你如果打算去上海做,与Gerard沟通一下。APAC对你不熟悉,非常可能不理你的ticket或者让你先获得mentor的意见 13:32:41 而且确实最近APAC都不怎么理ticket 13:32:56 上海也有什么活动? 13:33:08 一次这么大的LinuxCon结果才发展了一个贡献者,这转化率太低了,咱们还需要想想啊 13:33:15 上海LUG可能会办一些活动 13:33:27 毕竟这次貌似是他们二十周年,应该会有活动 13:33:50 I say no to the event for next weekend 13:34:07 gbraad_: Amazed to see you even catch up for our Chinese 13:34:24 omg gbraad😨 13:34:36 gbraad: so how about 29th? 13:34:54 I have been paying attention, but believe I need to step in. 13:35:33 Rather, but only when we also have speakers. Just a tea party is not enough 13:35:51 that's right 13:35:53 so we need CFP 13:36:12 i want to speak at release party in Beijing 13:36:33 about my Fedora life 13:36:49 Personally I will not make any decision for this release party - as I am not available. For venue, I just hope we can make it clear then I can talk with Red Hat if we need their office. 13:36:49 hi 13:36:53 hi kaio 13:36:55 #chair kaio 13:36:55 Current chairs: gbraad_ kaio lchh p4per318 tonghuix tonghuix[m] trustywolf zsun 13:36:57 Have tonghuix do a CFP and respond to this 13:37:01 forgot -.-; 13:37:08 ignore me 13:37:59 I want to follow rules. As what happened just a few days is not good for our meetups 13:38:04 yep 13:39:18 I only approve and approach our facility management when there is a reasonable event to hold. 13:41:06 网终于稳定了 13:41:21 So, please go about your business. Plan, and let me know your decision. If you need help, ask. If you are unsure, consult... If you are OK, we move forward 13:41:38 I have a suggestion, from another perspective 13:41:40 Understand? 13:42:16 As we almost have no community swags left, we'd utilize release party budget fully for swags - that is the only money we can use 13:42:20 if we postpone to Augest I will not responceble, because I will go to COSCUP until 15th 13:42:43 I can help for swags 13:43:01 I wish I can go COSCUP for the first time. 13:44:28 ;-) 13:45:27 If we can make the event for end of July, try.... Else if in zamir could do it instead. Good idea? 13:46:01 I am fine if it is later than July 29th 13:46:02 The effort for 29th would not be in vain if not possible, as swag would be needed anyway 13:46:08 I will t ry my best in July 13:46:26 OK. Let's try... If not, we move it to August 13:46:57 September also have SFD, so we have to finish it in July or Augest 13:47:16 Sorry but I have no weekends for the two weeks due to taking classes and exams for dayjob 13:47:57 SFD is another story. I suggest we focus on Release Party at the moment as they are slightly different 13:48:02 I do not see SFD as an issue, but rather an opportunity 13:49:25 yep, so there are several event moving on 13:49:59 I have to move on. But please create an action item to set up an event for around 29th, maybe August. 13:50:22 First planning and CFP, before any announcement. 13:50:30 #action tonghuix set up Release Party for F26 in July 29th 13:50:39 OK 13:53:18 这俩action能换顺序吗? 13:53:19 Brb 13:53:24 应该后一个先,前一个后 13:53:46 so in this way, either gbraad_ or I will still wait for your updates about venue 13:53:57 zsun,还有其他话题吗? 13:54:06 tonghuix[m]: action item 在会议纪要中的先后顺序是没有关系的 13:54:15 没有了吧,因为没有时间了 13:54:22 我先把ticket啊什么的弄完 13:54:30 然后CFP开一下,应该是可以的 13:54:36 加油 13:54:39 然后才是地点的问题 13:56:42 en 13:56:56 Action就是记录 13:57:12 [YYangW_bot] 刚刚剁手了 TIS-100 13:57:13 所以按照正常顺序做就好,不用管在IRC里出现的顺序 13:57:18 [YYangW_bot] 在Fedora 26下面完美 13:57:22 [YYangW_bot] 有人一起写代码吗 13:57:41 所以我先结束会议,然后大家闲聊( 13:58:21 #endmeeting