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13:28:21 <darci> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Stage_2_Activities/2.3_OpenMRS
13:34:12 <Patti> got it...
13:34:24 <Patti> Thanks, Darcy
13:34:31 <Patti> Darci
13:35:41 <darci> Hi Patti!
13:35:45 <wardj1> Hi
13:35:50 <Patti> finally
13:35:56 <Patti> yay!
13:36:09 <darci> Ok...we're all here! Yah
13:37:49 <Patti> still here
13:38:04 <Patti> but a line showed up.. am i still connected?
13:38:17 <darci> I sent this link out before...http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Stage_2_Activities/2.3_OpenMRS
13:38:27 <darci> Yep...I see you!
13:40:56 <darci> Do you want to talk about the assignment or the proposal first?
13:41:44 <Patti> either one...
13:41:52 <Patti> is Jeff here?
13:41:53 <wardj1> Are you planning to do a proposal?
13:42:05 <Patti> I wanted to talk about it...
13:42:57 <Patti> I will not have time to develop these activities.  It would be great to hire a student to help me with it...
13:42:59 <darci> Do you have access to the email that Patii sent on Monday, 6/23?
13:44:05 <wardj1> Yes, the student sounded like a great resource.
13:44:30 <darci> Ok...I've dropped the ball on this one. Just been too busy.
13:44:55 <darci> I should have discussed the idea with the foss2serve team during our Skype call yesterday.
13:44:58 <Patti> I have to do a research grant in Biomedical Informatics for tenure.. this won't count for tenure for me...
13:45:16 <Patti> so it just makes sense to use a student for this...
13:45:34 <darci> My first thought is that the grant states that these stipends are for faculty.
13:46:13 <Patti> Well... that does put a damper on the idea
13:46:18 <darci> We have a separate budget for student work.
13:46:56 <Patti> How do I get connected to that?
13:47:44 <darci> That has been used by each institution to hire a student(s) to do some work related to what we are doing. For example, I hired a student last year to work on MouseTrap.
13:47:44 <Patti> I am already getting a lot of slack for doing too much... especially in the classroom and not enough in the field I was hired for...
13:48:21 <Patti> Can we hire them to do course development under our supervision...
13:49:15 <darci> I don't know. We have a call scheduled for Tuesday. I'll throw the idea out then and see what others think.
13:50:31 <Patti> that would be great... thank you....
13:50:36 <darci> I also don't think that I can be part of a proposal...not sure.
13:51:04 <darci> I am willing to work on it regardless.
13:51:21 <darci> It falls into the work I'm slated to do as part of the grant anyway.
13:52:17 <darci> The idea behind the stipends is to support others faculty who are interested in doing curriculum developemnt.
13:53:23 <Patti> Got it...
13:53:34 <Patti> Yeah, I am not there yet...
13:54:14 <Patti> unless I can hire a student to help me with it...
13:54:30 <darci> Is there any way that the research grant you are supposed to do can tie into OpenMRS.
13:56:14 <Patti> Maybe... I am looking into it... It is for a visualization that I have develped that could possibly be a module for openMRS... but  I am trying to implement it real time for the ER, ICUs and such and I don't see OpenMRS working in that capacity... but I need to learn more about Open MRS to be sure...
13:57:04 <Patti> I am here at MIT trying to get access to a streaming database... but no luck...
13:59:29 <darci> Ok...regarding the data structures assignment, will you be teaching CS2/Data Structures in the fall?
13:59:35 <Patti> Yes...
13:59:39 <wardj1> Yes.
14:00:00 <wardj1> And probably in the Spring.
14:00:42 <darci> Have you had a chance to review what we developed while at POSSE?
14:01:22 <Patti> while we were there....but not since...
14:01:45 <wardj1> I haven't looked back at it.
14:02:11 <darci> :) me either...
14:02:12 <wardj1> I've looked around for data structs in the source code a little.  But need to spend more time on that.
14:02:41 <darci> Did you use Ag?
14:03:23 <wardj1> What is Ag?
14:03:35 <wardj1> I've been using Google search.
14:04:28 <darci> According to their website it is like grep and ack. There is a link to it on the data structures assignment page
14:04:59 <wardj1> Thanks
14:05:51 <darci> I haven't tried it.
14:06:24 * darci looking at what we've got so far...
14:07:26 <wardj1> For next time, I'll try to write a summary of the data structures that I find and what they are used for.
14:08:15 <darci> That sounds good.
14:08:32 <darci> Maybe I'll take a stab at doing a write-up of what we have from POSSE.
14:08:56 <wardj1> I have found some structures that are compositions of Java Collections Framework collections.  E.g. TreeMap<Integer, TreeSet<FormField>>.  I'll try to understand what they do.
14:08:58 <darci> I can distribute it to you and we can discuss it next time.
14:09:38 <darci> Ohh...I like that. It doesn't work for our CS2 class, but would work for our Data structures class.
14:10:05 <darci> I would like to get the faculty member who teaches our Data Structures class involved.
14:11:23 <darci> Does this day and time work for both of you in general?
14:11:43 <Patti> yes
14:11:48 <wardj1> yes
14:12:19 <Patti> Would this be for once a month?
14:12:22 <wardj1> Anytime THursdya
14:12:55 <darci> What do you think? Can you meet more often than that?
14:13:04 <wardj1> Well, we also have the other OpenMRS meeting.  So I would say this meeting of us three once a month is okay.
14:13:15 <wardj1> But I can do more if you like.
14:13:57 <darci> I don't recall...when is our next OpenMRS meeting?
14:14:25 <wardj1> I think it's _supposed_ to be next Thursday.
14:14:44 <Patti> I have to say that this has to take a back burner for me since I am under pressure to get a paper, presentation and grant written over the summer...
14:14:47 <wardj1> Second Thursday of each month.
14:15:24 <Patti> But I am going to see if I can find a student who will help... and see if the university has funds to pay for them....
14:15:40 <darci> Hmmm...I
14:15:44 <Patti> If not I will use my seed fund to help with this...
14:16:12 <darci> oops...I'm going to miss next Thursday's call. Any chance we can meet two weeks from today?
14:16:40 <wardj1> okay by me
14:16:43 <Patti> sure...
14:17:09 <Patti> same time?
14:17:20 <wardj1> any time you like
14:17:44 <darci> 9:00 works for me
14:17:47 <Patti> this time works... should we try Skype next time?
14:17:48 <wardj1> ok
14:18:10 <Patti> or stick with IRC?
14:18:25 <darci> We can...I'm not sure we can do video without having to pay.
14:18:49 <Patti> We can if we are all on Skype... for up to 3 users...
14:18:51 <wardj1> I don't think video is necessary.  Audio is nice
14:19:03 <darci> Let's try it then!
14:19:29 <darci> If you will send me your Skype ids, I'll initiate the call.
14:19:40 <Patti> Will do...
14:20:04 <Patti> Skype works better for me in PR than Hangouts also...
14:20:17 <wardj1> I'm not an expert user.  So if one of you sends me the appropriate invitation, that will be good.
14:20:32 <darci> Ok...I'll try to get the draft of the write-up out in the nexte week or so.
14:21:03 <darci> wardj1: as long as your on Skype when the call comes in, all you have to do is answer.
14:21:48 <wardj1> Do I need to send you a username?
14:21:52 <Patti> But you have to download the software and create your own Skype ID and send that ID to Darci
14:21:58 <darci> Yep...your Skype id
14:22:00 <wardj1> got it
14:22:32 <Patti> At call time you have to be sure the software is running...
14:22:49 <wardj1> Sounds easy
14:23:06 <darci> It is...
14:23:20 <Patti> There is only one problem I have had is that it uses your speakers instead of headset...
14:23:47 <darci> I've been able to use a headset, but don't usually need one.
14:23:54 <Patti> but I will email you a link to show you how to test it and test it...
14:24:11 <Patti> with three you will probably need one because we will start to get feedback
14:24:49 <Patti> like the feedback when you get the microphone too close to the speakers...
14:24:49 <darci> All sounds good...I need to go soon. Anything else for today?
14:24:57 <Patti> that's it...
14:25:00 <Patti> for me
14:25:13 <wardj1> See you in two weeks.
14:25:17 <wardj1> Enjoy MIT.
14:25:23 <darci> Sounds good! Bye all!
14:25:25 <Patti> Will do...
14:25:29 <Patti> bye!!!
14:25:30 <wardj1> Bye
14:25:43 <darci> #endmeeting