20:04:51 <stoney> #startmeeting POSSE IRC meeting
20:04:51 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct  5 20:04:51 2016 UTC.  The chair is stoney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:04:51 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
20:04:51 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'posse_irc_meeting'
20:04:54 <SSultana> Same. New here
20:04:57 <stoney> Hi all
20:05:00 <stoney> we are live
20:05:03 <SSultana> Hello
20:05:10 <MNakazawa> Konichiwa
20:05:13 <krish> Hi live!
20:05:14 <stoney> First item of business
20:05:18 <stoney> #topic Introductions
20:05:36 <stoney> oh... and the agenda is ....
20:05:44 <stoney> #link agenda http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_1
20:05:46 <stoney> there :)
20:06:07 <MNakazawa> Grazie
20:06:08 <stoney> So let's introduce ourselves so everyone knows who we are
20:06:15 <stoney> I'll model
20:06:20 <stoney> Hi! I'm Stoney Jackson. I from Western New England University. I am one of the foss2serve team members. I've used the MouseTrap project in a project-based course.
20:06:48 <stoney> Please fire when ready :)
20:06:50 <birgit> #info Birgit Assistant Professor at Cal State Long Beach in sunny California. Researching software engineering for sustainability. Loves mountains, yoga, running, dancing, and dark chocolate.
20:06:57 <krish> HI! I am Krish Narayanan. I am from Eastern Michigan University. I am new to FOSS.
20:07:06 <stoney> ooo... birgit good idea... should have used the #info :)
20:07:08 <circ-user-aVvDx> Hi! I'm Scott Heggen. I from Berea College. I am new.
20:07:10 <SSultana> Hello. I'm Simon Sultana. I'm at Fresno Pacific University in Fresno, CA. I'm new to OSS. Am launching new programs in software engineering and computer information systems.
20:07:18 <chunmei> Hi, I am Chunmei Liu, Professor in EECS at Howard University
20:07:28 <chunmei> in DC
20:07:34 <MNakazawa> #info Konichiwa! I am Mario Nakazawa from Berea College. I am interested in open source for my database systems class and parallel and distributed computing class. I teach all over the place, though.
20:07:41 <birgit> stoney tnx - was wondering whether #intro existed :)
20:07:47 <leep> #info Hi, all!  I'm Patricia Lee (adjunct from CSUF, UCI, and OCC).  New to FOSS.
20:07:55 <ClifKussmaul> #info Clif Kussmaul, Muhlenberg College, Allentown, PA. I used & contributed to FOSS in grad school, and started involving students with a 2004 HP Technology for Teaching grant. We've mostly worked with wikis, Moodle, and Drupal. I'm on the foss2serve team, I've also very involved with POGIL (http://cspogil.org) which you'll hear more about at the Stage 2 workshop.
20:08:33 <MNakazawa> I also interested in POGIL, although once I became chair, my time kind of evaporated.
20:08:59 <Chi> Hi! I'm Chi Zhang. I teach at the Kennesaw State University in Atlanta Georgia. I'm an IT faculty but currently server as the interim chair of the Department of Software Engineering and Game Development. I've taught and done some research on open source electronic health records systems. I love yoga too, and music and books, and watching sports games.
20:09:01 <ClifKussmaul> note to self: don't become chair
20:09:08 <SimonSultana> MNakazawa I can sympathize
20:09:09 <stoney> #chair ClifKussmaul
20:09:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: ClifKussmaul stoney
20:09:11 <stoney> hah!
20:09:22 <MNakazawa> Sorry Clif.
20:09:23 <emme> Hi all! I'm Emily Lovell, doctoral student focusing on computer science education. Currently at UC Santa Cruz, though I'll be moving to teach at Berea College starting in January. This will be my second POSSE and I'm excited to return!
20:09:42 <Sheggen> Hi Emily :)
20:09:47 <ClifKussmaul> In January, I'd stay in SC...
20:09:53 <MNakazawa> Hi Emily!
20:10:00 <stoney> Aweseome!
20:10:07 <stoney> I think that was everone
20:10:15 <stoney> so on to the next item
20:10:23 <stoney> #topic Discussion of IRC basic features
20:10:34 * MNakazawa waves hello
20:10:40 <stoney> There you go
20:10:47 <stoney> MNakazawa just used /me waves hello
20:10:50 <emme> Hi Scott & Mario!
20:10:59 <stoney> You can use that to emote an action
20:11:03 * SimonSultana trying to soak all these commands in
20:11:04 * leep waves to all, too!
20:11:10 <stoney> or talk about yourself in 3rd person
20:11:19 <chunmei> to emme, where is Berea college?
20:11:22 <stoney> Some of you have figured out /nick
20:11:27 * ClifKussmaul looking for unchair command
20:11:31 <stoney> which you can use to change your nickname
20:11:31 * krish trying to catch up ;)
20:11:34 <mario-nakazawa> In Berea, Ky
20:11:45 * stoney wags his finger at ClifKussmaul
20:11:48 <stoney> :0
20:11:49 <stoney> :)
20:11:54 <chunmei> Thanks
20:12:10 <ClifKussmaul> once nice thing is IRC is that you can scroll back to see what you missed
20:12:16 <ClifKussmaul> ^is^in
20:12:33 <stoney> If you are going to be away from your computer...
20:12:33 * SimonSultana hasn't used an interface like this in decade(s)?
20:12:50 <stoney> it's common to rename yourself to something with _ or _afk at the end
20:12:56 * birgit got distracted by a colleague walking in and her eyes widened at the number of new comments on screen within few seconds
20:12:56 <stoney_> like that
20:13:18 <ClifKussmaul> afk = away from keyboard
20:13:20 <chunmei> how do we change nickname here
20:13:28 <chunmei> I see you guys are changing yours
20:13:28 <stoney> with /nick
20:13:37 <stoney> so /nick my_new_name
20:13:42 <stoney> there you go :)
20:13:44 <cl> got it, thanks
20:13:59 <stoney> zodbot is not a real user
20:14:08 <stoney> zodbot is our meetbot
20:14:14 <stoney> it records our meeting
20:14:22 <mario-nakazawa> Is it possible to get a nickname for someone who already has that name? No, right?
20:14:25 <stoney> and responds to some commands that start with #
20:14:38 <stoney> mario-nakazawa, correct, no
20:14:46 <chunmei> #what?
20:15:05 <stoney> when I first started the meeting....
20:15:16 <stoney> zodbot listed some of the commands ....
20:15:40 <mario-nakazawa> halp.. that is funny.
20:16:03 <stoney> some useful commands include #info
20:16:07 <stoney> and #link
20:16:11 <pat> i got a message from the [NickServ]:  This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
20:16:11 <ClifKussmaul> #info
20:16:12 <SimonSultana> #info
20:16:13 <Chi> When I tried to use the nickname "Chi" I was told the name had been registered. I didn't know what to do about it but then found that "Chi' somehow shows for me.
20:16:19 <pat> but it was able to change my user name.
20:16:26 <pat> but it's now a different color.
20:16:27 <SimonSultana> must have done that wrong
20:16:29 <stoney> they are used to add things to some top-level lists
20:16:46 <stoney> so if you want to make a note of something... try one of those
20:16:57 <stoney> pat right
20:17:04 <SimonSultana> just #info?
20:17:04 <stoney> you can register a nick name
20:17:16 <stoney> then you have to have a password to use that nick
20:17:17 <chunmei> how do I respond to someone
20:17:21 <ClifKussmaul> #commands
20:17:21 <zodbot> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #rejected #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk
20:17:32 <mario-nakazawa> Do you have to use #link? Clif put the URL for CS POGIL in the message. Does the IRC recognize URL's automatically?
20:17:37 <stoney> chunmel you can add their name to your message
20:17:53 <ClifKussmaul> ah - there is an #unchair - so I can escape
20:17:56 <krish> The link is not doing anything for me!
20:17:57 <mario-nakazawa> Clif... QUICK use #unchair!
20:17:57 <chunmei> #<stoney> thanks
20:18:10 <SimonSultana> what is unlurk?
20:18:19 <mario-nakazawa> #lurk
20:18:19 <stoney> mario-nakazawa no, #link would have to be the first word of your statement for zodbot to recognize it
20:18:51 <SimonSultana> #info #lurk
20:19:13 <stoney> Oh... and I #chair ClifKussmaul ... in case I lose connection, he could end the meeting
20:19:14 <SimonSultana> that wasn't right either
20:19:25 <stoney> otherwise no one else could start a meeting
20:19:43 <mario-nakazawa> #halp
20:19:56 <stoney> krish #link will only has an effect on the final minutes
20:20:04 <stoney> you won't notice anything interesting now
20:20:23 <krish> got it
20:20:32 <stoney> items that have been #link and #info will show up in a summary of the minutes
20:20:43 <stoney> This is a lively bunch!
20:20:44 <stoney> love it!
20:21:07 <mario-nakazawa> So everything with the hashtag is for the bot and the slash for IRC commands?
20:21:55 <stoney> right
20:22:01 <Chi> "Commands to the meetbot start with "#" and mostly control what appears in the summary"
20:22:10 <stoney> although the bot is recording everything right now too
20:22:13 <SimonSultana> what does #info do?
20:22:14 <mario-nakazawa> Got it. Sorry for getting those confused.
20:22:29 <stoney> adds things to the #info list
20:22:37 <stoney> in the minutes summary
20:22:42 <stoney> after the meeting is done
20:22:49 <stoney> I'll post the minutes of this meeting
20:22:54 <SimonSultana> i guess it will make sense after the meeting ?
20:22:56 <stoney> to our IRC agenda page
20:23:00 <stoney> then you'll see
20:23:02 <stoney> right
20:23:04 <SimonSultana> cool
20:23:06 <stoney> :)
20:23:11 <mario-nakazawa> What does #lurk do? Hides the comments from the bot?
20:23:12 <stoney> Great questions
20:23:17 <stoney> no idea
20:23:20 <krish> So I see some communications in my freenode tab. How does it get there?
20:23:21 <mario-nakazawa> Ok.
20:23:34 <mario-nakazawa> I put #lurk and nothing seems to have happened.
20:23:36 <SimonSultana> I had another window pop up that said unlurk. I was in there by myself. No idea how or why that happened
20:23:37 <stoney> krish no idea on that
20:24:15 <stoney> any other IRC questions?
20:24:23 * mario-nakazawa shakes head
20:24:30 <stoney> Otherwise... I'll move us on to ....
20:24:30 * mario-nakazawa shrugs
20:24:40 <pat> so when i msg someone or someone msgs me, what happens?
20:24:52 <pat> also, am i showing up as "pat"?
20:25:01 <Sheggen> yes, you are pat
20:25:02 <Chi> yes, you are
20:25:16 <stoney> I assume that's a private message... if it puts you in a separate channel with just that person... that's what it is
20:25:18 <lorip> if you use a nick the person should be pinged
20:25:37 <lorip> for example, pat:
20:25:39 <pat> ok, a new tab shows up when msg'ed.  :)  thanks mario-nakazawa
20:25:40 <Sheggen> msg opens a channel with just you two in it.
20:25:46 <lorip> should let you know that I want your attention
20:25:49 <stoney> there you go :)
20:25:53 <mario-nakazawa> I tried that earlier and it did not work.
20:25:58 <ClifKussmaul> Arg, someone nicked me, I'm bleeding! :-)
20:26:17 <Sheggen> it opens when the recipient responds. or, it did for me anyways
20:26:25 <birgit> mario-nakazawa - When lurk is set, MeetBot will only passively listen and take notes (and save the notes), not reply or change the topic This is useful for when you don't want disruptions during the meeting. (Chairs only.)
20:26:31 <stoney> right... and if you put someones nick in a message, you're client might flash or beep to let you know someone is trying to get your attention
20:26:31 <mario-nakazawa> stoney: does this work?
20:26:42 <darci> hi all, sorry I'm late...technical difficulties!
20:26:47 <ClifKussmaul> msg starts a private chat, notice sends a short message without a new window/tab
20:26:48 <stoney> mario-nakazawa yes :)
20:26:56 <stoney> hi darci
20:27:10 * darci waving
20:27:11 <mario-nakazawa> stoney: Oh.. I did not see anything special on my end, so I thought I did it wrong.
20:27:16 <stoney> OK... I'm going to move us forward... keep playing with IRC though
20:27:21 <stoney> #topic Discussion of HFOSS projects
20:27:25 * mario-nakazawa dances around.
20:27:52 <stoney> OK... how are folks doing with a search for a project?
20:27:59 <stoney> Thoughts? Questions?
20:28:01 <birgit> found - you provided a list ;)
20:28:06 <Chi> I'm interested in "OpenMRS"
20:28:06 <stoney> lol
20:28:10 * SimonSultana thinks he is interested in Sahana Foundation
20:28:12 <birgit> It was interesting looking through them
20:28:16 <stoney> Chi awesome
20:28:23 <krish> I'm interested in OpenMRS too
20:28:25 * birgit interesting in Mifos and OPenMRS
20:28:36 <stoney> Chi there are quite a few POSSE alum who have used it
20:28:37 * birgit interest*ed* that was supposed to be
20:28:39 * mario-nakazawa is intrigued by MouseTrap.
20:28:54 <SimonSultana> what background do we need to contribute to this project?
20:28:59 <emme> I've also been interested in OpenMRS for awhile, but have heard mixed experiences with folks trying to involve their students in it
20:29:02 <krish> Why does Sugarlabs not have any commits recently?
20:29:19 * Sheggen likes Ushahidi
20:29:24 <mario-nakazawa> emme: I have heard the same.
20:29:32 <stoney> mario-nakazawa heidie and I have used MouseTrap... I think someone is about to use it this semester or next
20:30:07 <stoney> krish not sure about Sugarlabs, anyone else know anything about Sugarlabs?
20:30:21 * pat likes Mifos and MouseTrap
20:30:41 * pat having trouble deciding between two.  which has more need?
20:30:46 <stoney> Awesome... looks like folks have looked into these a bit
20:30:53 <krish> Is it possible to get a list of projects people have worked on recently?
20:30:57 <mario-nakazawa> I have openmrs IRC open for a while to see what the messages are like... and what is scrumon? It looks like a bot.
20:31:07 <lorip> pat: a couple things to consider between Mifos & MouseTrap
20:31:12 <lorip> does language matter?
20:31:14 <stoney> I believe you'll have another activity or two which will allow you to explore them more
20:31:27 <krish> I had OpenMRS open too but didn't see any activity
20:31:36 <lorip> also, does the size of the community matter?
20:31:46 <darci> Regarding OpenMRS, you might consider working on a module rather than the core.
20:31:55 <mario-nakazawa> krish: I had it open since last night/
20:32:14 <lorip> OpenMRS doesn't use IRC as the main communication - they have a listserv instead
20:32:24 <SimonSultana> does anyone remember which Stage 1 activity had us looking over the projects?
20:32:32 <pat> oops
20:32:49 <pat> how do i address someone?
20:32:59 <pat> lorip thank you.
20:33:03 <krish> Item no 6 - Anatomy of projects
20:33:04 <darci> OpenMRS also uses OpenMRS Talk
20:33:23 <birgit> OpenMRS Talk is what? An IM?
20:33:24 <lorip> pat you are welcome - Mifos uses java (I believe) and Mousetrap uses Python
20:33:35 <birgit> Yes, Mifos uses Java
20:33:40 <birgit> at least the page says so
20:33:41 <mario-nakazawa> lorip: It is interesting to see the message from someone in the openmrs IRC saying "The build is still failing."
20:33:46 <pat> lorip language doesn't matter, but size smaller might be better.  (those are great things to consider)
20:34:09 <mario-nakazawa> lorip: MouseTrap uses python? intriguing!
20:34:18 <lorip> mario-nakazawa: hmm, interesting...
20:34:23 <darci> birgit: It is IM like
20:34:33 <lorip> stoney can talk more about Mousetrap
20:34:34 <stoney> SimonSultana Now I see your question about what background you need to contribute to a project
20:34:36 <birgit> darci thanks
20:34:49 <SimonSultana> stoney this makes sense!
20:34:50 <stoney> SimonSultana it all depends on what you plan to contribute
20:35:17 <SimonSultana> whatever I can
20:35:26 <stoney> SimonSultana code requires a lot more background than say usability testing  (sorry for repesting)
20:35:47 <SimonSultana> ah cool. My first job was as a beta tester...YEARS ago
20:35:47 <stoney> ok... someone mentioned MouseTrap
20:36:12 <stoney> SimonSultana there you go! lots of projects need folk to test and report back
20:36:16 <lorip> yes, I mentioned it was in Python
20:36:20 * mario-nakazawa points to himself.
20:36:43 <SimonSultana> Okay, I better understand now. One of the Stage 1 Activities had links to the project sites but I had not yet done #6 which has detail.
20:36:45 <stoney> ah mario-nakazawa, yes yes ask away... or should I read back?
20:37:19 <mario-nakazawa> stoney: I am looking at the description right now...
20:37:25 <stoney> ah ok  :)
20:37:41 <mario-nakazawa> stoney: Or rather, I am looking at it again.
20:37:47 <stoney> sure :)
20:38:19 <SimonSultana> Silly question: Are we supposed to be doing anything with the "Notes for Instructors" areas at this point? I joined very late and have been trying to catch up
20:38:44 <leep> i think that's the notes for the POSSE instructors, no?
20:38:51 <birgit> What is the status with Mifos - anyone here knowledgeable? I have been watching the IM channel but its more about installing and compatibility
20:39:04 <SimonSultana> leep, that is what I was thinking
20:39:07 <stoney> SimonSultana Notes for instructors are for anyone who might use that activity in a class
20:39:09 <mario-nakazawa> stoney: What do you use? a webcam camera on a laptop or a standalone, or does it matter?
20:39:17 <birgit> SimonSultana I thought they were also for us as instructors when we teach OSS in class
20:39:40 <leep> birgit and stoney thank you!
20:39:43 <SimonSultana> okay, that makes sense. so we could conceivably use these activites to introduce the topic in courses. Great
20:39:44 <stoney> mario-nakazawa I have used both... but mostly my laptop's built-in
20:39:54 <leep> SimonSultana sorry for the misinfo
20:40:29 <mario-nakazawa> stoney: hmmm... our students are all issued a laptop that I believe has a camera on it. I am not sure if I can have then contribute during a class though. It is not in the schedule that we are offering.
20:40:35 <SimonSultana> no problem at all leep. I appreciate the response regardless ;-)
20:41:25 <stoney> mario-nakazawa at POSSE we'll explore different ways to contribute and integrate HFOSS in curricula... so you might get more ideas then
20:41:43 <mario-nakazawa> stoney: righto.
20:41:48 <stoney> So it sounds like folks are on the right track
20:42:09 <stoney> The next item on the agenda... I still don't understand...
20:42:19 <stoney> anyone know what "Good of the order" means?
20:42:32 <lorip> that means any other questions/comments/thoughts?
20:42:39 * birgit was wondering the same :)
20:42:41 <mario-nakazawa> Sounds ominous...
20:42:55 <Sheggen> #link http://faq.vfw.org/faq/index.php?View=entry&EntryID=111
20:42:56 <stoney> alright... I'll bite
20:43:01 <stoney> #topic Good of the order
20:43:07 * SimonSultana thinking about a reference only he would get
20:43:17 <lorip> it is a term we use in our dept meetings to allow anyone to bring up something not on the agenda
20:43:31 <mario-nakazawa> like new business?
20:43:41 <mario-nakazawa> or comments/announcements?
20:43:41 <ClifKussmaul> you mean your dept meetings _have_ an agenda?
20:43:45 <stoney> awesome... then I just learned something :)
20:43:54 <heidie> Stoney is the most organized department chair ever!
20:43:57 <mario-nakazawa> Hey, Clif, my program meetings have an agenda.
20:44:00 <stoney> ClifKussmaul ours has a trello board :)
20:44:02 <lorip> yes, don't yours?  wait, are you the whole dept clif?
20:44:03 <Sheggen> it's short for "time to complain". get your complaints in now!
20:44:07 <heidie> We have a Trello board for our meetings.
20:44:08 <SimonSultana> Ha Sheggen, was looking at the same page!
20:44:27 <mario-nakazawa> Trello sounds interesting. I use a Google Doc... am I old school already?
20:44:48 <Sheggen> Two of your colleagues are using Trello Mario. keep up!
20:44:48 <ClifKussmaul> http://agendalessmeetings.org/
20:44:54 <SimonSultana> My 2 cents would be to work on the first activity in Stage 1. I don't know about everyone else but it took me longer than 1 hour to read and it was dry. Would try to spice that up a little
20:44:59 <stoney> mario-nakazawa nah that's complementry to trello
20:45:22 <darci> SimonSultana: Perfect good of the order comment!
20:45:31 <stoney> wuhoo!
20:45:35 <mario-nakazawa> Hey, Scott, I know about Trello. I have my students use it. I am old school. Code in assembly is the way to go. For the good of the order.
20:46:04 * heidie notes that all of the activities on foss2serve are creative commons licensed and modifiable.
20:46:16 <stoney> good note
20:46:22 <krish> In that case, has anyone in the past used HFOSS outside of a class?
20:46:25 <SimonSultana> Still getting my feet wet Heidie ;)
20:46:44 <mario-nakazawa> SimonSultana: are you talking about the first activity for the IRC or the wiki stuff?
20:47:03 <SimonSultana> The "Introduction to FOSS" section
20:47:10 <mario-nakazawa> Never mind.. it was the Introduction to FOSS
20:47:11 <SimonSultana> mario-nakawzawa
20:47:34 <mario-nakazawa> Wow.. I am sure that we have a lot of "jynx" moments.
20:47:35 <stoney> Any other "Good of the order" comments?
20:47:44 <heidie> SimonSultana, That was only a suggestion, not a request :-)  Just letting you know that if you wanted to use it in class you could modify.
20:48:05 <stoney> moving on to....
20:48:09 <stoney> #topic Wrap Up
20:48:24 <krish> Next steps?
20:48:25 <SimonSultana> Heidie, understand. I would definitely consider putting it somewhere other than first for students. I think they would lose interest. Let them do something active to get involved first
20:48:42 <stoney> heidie ClifKussmaul lorip darci help me here :)
20:48:55 <heidie> Yup, agreed SimonSultana
20:49:07 <SimonSultana> Must say that I had my doubts when I started this but I am very glad to be involved. This is great stuff so far
20:49:08 <lorip> krish - I'm not sure I understand the question
20:49:22 <heidie> ClifKussmaul, Glad to help. I think you've got a couple of good proposals there.
20:49:31 <heidie> stoney, help with wrap up?
20:49:32 <lorip> Are you asking what are the next set of activities?
20:49:38 <stoney> heidie yes please
20:49:43 <stoney> any anouncements here?
20:49:45 <mario-nakazawa> Do we just say bye?
20:49:48 <SimonSultana> I had not done 4. Introduction to IRC yet. Does this mean I don't have to do it now that I've used it ;-)
20:49:51 <heidie> Are there any final questions? Burning things that people want to know before we end?
20:49:58 <stoney> mario-nakazawa I'm always bad at good bye :)
20:50:02 <mario-nakazawa> How often are IRC's used?
20:50:14 <heidie> mario-nakazawa, In some communities, always.
20:50:16 <stoney> mario-nakazawa depends on the project
20:50:25 <heidie> I'm on about four different channels continually.
20:50:26 <stoney> mario-nakazawa and the organization
20:50:34 <mario-nakazawa> You said that openMRS does not... how would we know when one is used and not. Contact the BD?
20:50:35 <stoney> GNOME uses them heavily
20:50:39 <heidie> It is like the water cooler. Where people go to ask questions and share ideas.
20:50:39 <birgit> heidie will you send out an email again for the next set of activities?
20:50:40 <SimonSultana> stoney, I have a question. I started late. Lori P set me up. We are supposed to be done with Part A today. Am I okay if I run a couple days behind??
20:50:40 <stoney> Red Hat too, no?
20:51:16 <heidie> mario-nakazawa, Yes, by learning about the HFOSS community, you will learn how each community uses communication tools.
20:51:18 <stoney> SimonSultana that's probably fine... keep plugging away :)
20:51:22 <mario-nakazawa> stoney: ok, so mousetrap may be using IRC, then, being part of gnome, right?
20:51:43 <stoney> mario-nakazawa yes... MouseTrap has a channel on irc.gnome.org
20:51:44 <lorip> birgit: no, we won't be sending out an email about Part B, you can get started on them now
20:51:48 <lorip> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Stage_1_Activities#Part_B:_Second_Two_Weeks
20:51:49 <SimonSultana> stoney thank you. Juggling too many plates lately!! But this is worth it
20:51:54 <birgit> lorip ok, thanks!
20:52:05 <heidie> birgit, All stage one activities and due dates are listed here:
20:52:05 <stoney> SimonSultana I hear you :)
20:52:07 <heidie> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Stage_1_Activities
20:52:15 <mario-nakazawa> Wait... so not on freenode, but irc.gnome.org?
20:52:20 * lorip feeling like I missed something I was supposed to respond to
20:52:30 <stoney> mario-nakazawa right... GNOME has there own IRC servers
20:52:32 * lorip if so, please ask again...
20:52:35 <stoney> network
20:52:39 <stoney> whatever they are called
20:52:40 <heidie> mario-nakazawa, you can open multiple channels to different servers in parallel.
20:52:58 <mario-nakazawa> heidi: ah.. This is all new to me, so it is taking a while. Sorry
20:52:58 <heidie> I'm on the #ally channel on irc.gnome.org right now.
20:53:00 <leep> these stage 1 activities, etc... they will stay up, then?  so if i wanted to look back as an instructor later, i can?
20:53:09 <heidie> mario-nakazawa, You're asking great questions!
20:53:16 <darci> leep: yep!
20:53:27 <heidie> This is a learning process and each question is another step in the learning.
20:53:39 <lorip> leep: and we encourage you to use/modify them
20:53:50 <stoney> OK... do I have a motion to adjourn?
20:53:58 * mario-nakazawa motions to adjoin
20:54:00 <leep> darci thank you!
20:54:01 <stoney> Second?
20:54:03 <Sheggen> #second
20:54:04 <birgit> ay
20:54:09 <darci> ay
20:54:10 <stoney> #endmeeting