10:47:10 <hislopg> #startmeeting IRC Meeting 1
10:47:10 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue May 23 10:47:10 2017 UTC.  The chair is hislopg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
10:47:10 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
10:47:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc_meeting_1'
10:47:12 <pri2507_> yes sure!
10:47:33 <heidie> The agenda for the meeting is here:
10:47:34 <hislopg> #chair heidie
10:47:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: heidie hislopg
10:47:37 <heidie> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_1
10:48:00 <hislopg> I've started out meetbot - this will create a transcript and summary of the meeting
10:48:03 <heidie> Let's start by introducing ourselves.
10:48:07 <hislopg> "our meetbot"
10:48:19 <heidie> I'm Heidi Ellis, a member of the foss2serve team and a professor at Western New England University.
10:48:36 <hislopg> I'm Greg Hislop from Drexel University.  Also a team member
10:49:14 <pri2507_> I'm Priti Narwal, working as Assistant Professor in Manav rachna International University,India
10:49:34 <hislopg> Hi Priti!
10:49:58 <heidie> Hi Priti!
10:50:09 <hislopg> I think that's all we have for introductions...
10:50:11 <heidie> OK, so we've done the intros.
10:50:12 <heidie> :-)
10:50:23 <heidie> pri2507_, are you familiar with IRC? Have you used it before?
10:50:49 <hislopg> (all the others listed as being on the channel are POSSE people of some sort and I think they are all "away"
10:51:10 <pri2507_> Hi Heidi and Hislop...No I am not familiar with IRC.
10:51:31 <heidie> So IRC is a common method of communication in open source projects.
10:51:43 <pri2507_> But i can see the information provided by you in the mentioned link.
10:51:54 <heidie> Good!
10:52:16 <heidie> So zodbot isn't actually a person.
10:52:25 <pri2507_> ok !
10:52:30 <heidie> zodbot is a bot that is keeping meeting notes.
10:53:00 <heidie> Not all IRC interactions are kept in notes, but all are public so you should expect that anything you say will be public.
10:53:30 <pri2507_> Okay! i got it.
10:53:30 <heidie> And IRC is also widely used as an informal form of communication.
10:53:48 <heidie> You can probably see that there are other folks in our channel who aren't talking right now.
10:54:01 <heidie> They're hanging out.
10:54:20 <heidie> If you type one of their names, their screen will flash or machine might beep.
10:54:27 <heidie> To bring their attention to the chat window.
10:54:42 <pri2507_> Does it provides you a channel to have communication with people having similar work interests?
10:55:00 <heidie> Ah, this is the fun part.
10:55:12 <heidie> You can name a channel anything and you can create a channel on the fly.
10:55:27 <pri2507_> ok
10:55:42 <heidie> So you could say /join #happytimes  and the IRC server would create a channel if one didn't exist, or put you in that channel if it does exist.
10:55:42 <hislopg> But there are also channels that people use in communities
10:55:53 <heidie> Many groups have established channels.
10:56:08 <hislopg> so #foss2serve is a channel that we use for all the communication related to POSSE
10:56:20 <heidie> Most of these channels are formally registered with the server.
10:56:36 <heidie> You can also have multiple channels open simultaneously.
10:56:46 <pri2507_> ok! now i understand.
10:56:53 <heidie> When I'm online, I always have five different channels open on two different servers.
10:57:13 <heidie> And when someone wants to talk with me, they type my name into their IRC window.
10:57:20 <heidie> If I'm at my computer, I can respond.
10:57:37 <heidie> What client are you using?
10:59:18 <pri2507_> i didn't get it
10:59:34 <heidie> What software are you using to run IRC? Chatzilla?
10:59:39 <heidie> I'm using HexChat.
11:00:00 <pri2507_> webchat
11:00:04 <heidie> Ah, OK.
11:00:09 <hislopg> And I'm using Chatzilla
11:00:13 <pri2507_> ok
11:00:17 <heidie> So if I type your name, pri2507_  what do you see or hear.
11:00:23 <heidie> Does your screen flash? A beep?
11:00:33 <pri2507_> no
11:01:00 <heidie> Ah, OK, many clients let you know when someone has typed your name.
11:01:10 <heidie> Do you have other questions about IRC?
11:01:51 <pri2507_> No , not now.
11:02:16 <pri2507_> I will use Chatzilla for IRC then.
11:02:56 <heidie> The meetbot will produce a variety of formats.
11:02:57 <hislopg> Chatzilla will definitely flash the icon if you are mentioned in an IRC chat
11:03:01 <heidie> Here is an example of the formats:
11:03:07 <heidie> #link https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/foss2serve/2017-04-14/
11:04:03 <pri2507_> how can i access the meetbot for #foss2serve?only by this link?
11:04:24 <heidie> The meetbot itself is a program that executes on this channel.
11:04:36 <heidie> The output of the meetbot for this channel may be found here:
11:04:50 <pri2507_> okay!
11:04:52 <heidie> #link https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/foss2serve/
11:05:13 <heidie> These are the meeting notes for POSSE meetings since we started hosting POSSE workshops in 2013.
11:06:35 <pri2507_> ok.but if i want to access yesterday's meeting logs..how can i do it?
11:07:00 <heidie> Ah, if you go to that link I just provided, you can see a very brief meeting, all the way at the bottom.
11:07:07 <pri2507_> got it:)
11:07:08 <heidie> This is because the meetbot happened to be broken.
11:07:11 <heidie> yesterday.
11:07:27 <heidie> So if you go here:
11:07:27 <heidie> http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_1
11:07:44 <hislopg> You'll also see the notes from this meeting at that address - but they don't appear until after we end the meeting
11:07:47 <heidie> And go to the bottom, you'll see a link to the raw log from yesterday's notes.
11:08:14 <heidie> And you will be able to see the notes from the rest of the meetings at that same link (once they have ended).
11:08:31 <heidie> And usually there are more people in the meeting so there is more interaction :-)
11:08:47 <heidie> A few other things to note.
11:08:50 <pri2507_> ok thanku so much Heidi
11:09:01 <heidie> There are ways to signal that you are "away" (meaning busy or not paying attention).
11:09:22 <heidie> If you use the /away command, you are flagged as being away
11:09:33 <heidie> I just went away
11:09:56 <heidie> I'm not sure what you see, but sometimes it makes the user name italics and sometimes it appends an underscore to the user name.
11:10:05 <hislopg> How "away" shows up for others depends on the client...
11:10:09 <heidie> That tells you that the person isn't likely to pay attention if you flag them.
11:10:11 <pri2507_> I am not able to see that either ..
11:10:16 <heidie> Ah, OK
11:10:23 <hislopg> on Chatzilla, "Heidie" is now in italics
11:10:23 <heidie> I came back.
11:10:40 <heidie> I'm greyed out in HexChat
11:11:06 <heidie> The other thing to note is that people will express thoughts using the /me command
11:11:21 <heidie> For example:
11:11:23 * heidie looks for the link to the previous IRC logs.
11:11:33 <pri2507_> I will try that in Chatzilla..webchat doesn't show all this.
11:11:42 <heidie> Ah, yes, might not.
11:11:43 <pri2507_> ok
11:11:59 <heidie> OK, feels like we've thrown a lot of information at you.
11:12:02 <heidie> Questions?
11:12:07 <hislopg> the web clients tend to have fewer features
11:13:07 <pri2507_> I think i should  first go through from all this information and try these commands in Chatzilla
11:13:18 <heidie> Makes senst.
11:13:25 <heidie> the other command that you may want is the /nick
11:13:36 <heidie> That command allows you to change your name. For example:
11:13:48 <heidi_away> I just changed my name to "heidi_away"
11:13:52 <heidi_away> \nick heidie
11:13:56 <heidi_away> Just changed i back.
11:14:27 <heidi_away> Oh, and the /help command gives information about the commands.
11:14:28 <pri2507_> ok
11:14:50 <heidi_away> OK, we've got about 15 minutes left.
11:15:22 <heidi_away> Let's change the topic to HFOSS projects.
11:15:31 <heidi_away> #topic HFOSS Projects
11:16:01 <pri2507_> yes i have reviewed HFOSS projects
11:16:01 <hislopg> #topic HFOSS Projects
11:16:19 <heidie> Ah, I'm not a meeting chair. Thank you hislopg
11:16:44 <hislopg> you were the meeting chair - but as heidie
11:16:51 <heidie> Oh, right. :-)
11:16:56 <hislopg> :-)
11:17:06 <heidie> pri2507_,  What questions do you have about HFOSS projects?
11:17:49 <pri2507_> How can we contribute in any project?
11:18:38 <heidie> The activities that you have been completing are there to help you understand HFOSS communities.
11:19:10 <pri2507_> ok!
11:19:34 <heidie> The "Intro to FOSS Project Anatomy" and "FOSS Field Trip" activities provide understanding of the major features of HFOSS projects.
11:20:11 <heidie> Once you have an idea of how HFOSS projects work, you can start to see ways to contribute.
11:20:37 <pri2507_> Ok!got it.
11:20:54 <heidie> You may also find this page on the TeachingOpenSource site helpful:
11:20:57 <heidie> #link http://teachingopensource.org/for-instructors/getting-started-for-instructors/
11:22:12 <hislopg> At this point, we expect everyone to just be starting to look at HFOSS projects
11:22:35 <hislopg> So don't worry if you're still trying to figure out the basics about any project!
11:22:44 <pri2507_> Sure.
11:23:52 <hislopg> pri2507: Do you have any other questions at this time?
11:25:02 <pri2507_> No further questions.
11:25:11 <pri2507_> But
11:25:33 <heidie> but?
11:25:36 <pri2507_> Not able to decide on projects right now.
11:25:48 <heidie> Ah, don't worry about selecting a project now.
11:25:58 <hislopg> That's OK - you have some time to decide.
11:26:02 <heidie> Some participants know what they want to do, others are just getting started.
11:26:23 <hislopg> At this point we want to be sure everyone is starting to explore projects - that's enough for now
11:26:41 <heidie> So we can wrap this up. Note that I typically hang out in this channel so if you have questions later, ping me.
11:26:43 <hislopg> OK - let's wrap up this meeting...
11:26:51 <heidie> Although I'll be gone for the next few hours.
11:26:55 <pri2507_> ok. thanks again
11:27:09 <hislopg> nice to chat!  bye all!
11:27:12 <hislopg> #endmeeting