18:09:57 <igorps> #startmeeting 18:09:57 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Jan 14 18:09:57 2011 UTC. The chair is igorps. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:09:57 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:10:21 <igorps> #meetingname FUDCon LATAM 18:10:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_latam' 18:10:48 <igorps> #topic Updates from last meeting 18:11:21 <igorps> aeperezt: from the last meeting I see that we have only one room for the first day 18:11:31 <igorps> Dennis requested more rooms 18:11:41 <igorps> any updates on this? 18:13:26 <aeperezt> igorps, Denis request at lease one more room, we have talk to Ciudad del Saber and they will let us know about the other room 18:13:41 <aeperezt> igorps, we have to do some paper work but it can be done 18:14:04 <igorps> aeperezt: great 18:14:26 <igorps> two rooms seems good to me for the first day 18:14:27 <aeperezt> igorps, with 3 rooms we are goin to have 3 sessions at the same time 18:14:40 <igorps> what about for other days? 18:14:48 <igorps> How many rooms are available? 18:15:20 <aeperezt> igorps, for the first day it is only one room for aroun 200 people, they will 3 rooms for the other 2 days as we agree on the last meeting 18:15:43 <jsmith> I too worry about having just one room at first day 18:16:27 <igorps> I'd like to see one more room for the first day 18:16:50 <igorps> otherwise we will have to postpone some activities to other days 18:17:33 <igorps> and think about how we can arrange the schedule in order to accommodate that 18:19:38 <igorps> aeperezt: maybe is is a good idea to bring most popular talks to the first day 18:23:23 <igorps> aeperezt: as things are now we will have one track of talks in the first day and 3 different tracks in other 2 days, right? 18:23:53 <aeperezt> igorps I think I don't understand the event how it is to be layout 18:24:51 <aeperezt> last meeting we talk about having more rooms the last two days and one room the first day 18:26:39 <aeperezt> so we need to come with a better plan for the event and define what resources are, keep in mind first day is in a conference center, I have to ask for each resources and they may have other events on the same days 18:26:39 <igorps> aeperezt: ideally we should have at least one more track in the first day, but since it was agreed to have only one room in the first day we will have to manage that 18:27:09 <aeperezt> I cannot keep changing every week the request 18:27:26 <igorps> aeperezt: sure, you're totally right 18:27:54 <igorps> aeperezt: let's stick to the plan then 18:27:54 <jsmith> I agree -- we should get our schedule together first, agree on it, and *then* request any changes 18:28:27 <igorps> my worry in just to proper define the schedule 18:28:50 <igorps> for instance, popular talks in the first day 18:29:13 <igorps> and on the other days talks and hackfests concurrently 18:30:06 <igorps> this is the kind of layout we need to have in mind in order to plan things 18:31:11 <aeperezt> igorps, we could have taks, hackfests and workshops 18:31:56 <igorps> we can manage the sessions this way so we are able to fit them properly in the available rooms 18:32:29 <igorps> aeperezt: are you ok with bringing most talks to the first day? 18:32:57 <aeperezt> igorps, we also need to define an agenda, this week we did talk to Dell Panama they will be one of our sponsors, but they need more define agenda 18:33:15 <igorps> we can have more hours in our schedule as Paul suggested 18:34:00 <aeperezt> igorps, yes let try to make an agenda for the first day 18:34:23 <aeperezt> opening 9:00 am by jsmith I have to assume 18:34:31 <igorps> aeperezt: ok good 18:35:14 <aeperezt> then talks of 50 min to one our until 12:00 18:35:27 <aeperezt> 12:00 to 1:00 lunch break 18:35:42 <igorps> it will be good to start with a FLP opening talk for sure! 18:35:48 <aeperezt> 13:00 to 17:00 talks 18:36:26 <igorps> aeperezt: can we use the same schedule for other rooms in the other days? 18:36:39 <aeperezt> igorps, we need to reserve one hour talk for Dell on virtualization talk 18:37:18 <igorps> aeperezt: I guess this is one that we should put in our first day of talks in the bigger room 18:37:24 <aeperezt> basically yes, we may need to include 15 break for coffe and other stuff what do youthink 18:38:00 <aeperezt> igorps, probalbly we do a virtualization workshop also 18:38:20 <igorps> aeperezt: great, it is just to keep a consistent schedule during the conference days, so people get used to it 18:38:32 <jsmith> You might want to leave a slightly longer lunch 18:38:45 <jsmith> (unless food is available very close to the location) 18:38:48 <aeperezt> jsmith, 2 hours lunch 18:39:22 <igorps> aeperezt: so 12:00 to 2:00 lunch break? 18:39:44 <aeperezt> jsmith, the idea is to have food on the same building, there are coffie and restaurants around 10 min walk from the place 18:40:02 * jsmith likes a 90 minute lunch, but that may not work well w/ the schedule 18:40:24 <aeperezt> I agreed jsmith 90 min lunch 18:40:32 <igorps> aeperezt: can we have two hours of lunch and push the final talk to 18:00? 18:41:18 <aeperezt> igorps, I think yes 18:41:49 <igorps> aeperezt: great 18:42:26 <aeperezt> igorps, but I need to check to be sure 18:43:07 <aeperezt> I like the two hour lunch will allow to have a visit to panama canal visitor center on the first o secund day 18:43:45 <igorps> aeperezt: ok, I'll keep this in mind to bring for our next meeting 18:43:52 <igorps> Nice! 18:44:02 <igorps> so we agree on one room for talks on the first day and three rooms for the other two days 18:44:11 <igorps> two hours of lunch 18:44:26 <igorps> opening talk at 9:00 am 18:44:34 <aeperezt> right 18:44:38 <igorps> closing talk at 18:00 18:44:46 <igorps> (to checked yet) 18:44:56 <igorps> to be* 18:45:17 <igorps> ok 18:45:30 <igorps> moving to next topic 18:45:34 <jsmith> That all looks good to me 18:45:39 <igorps> +1 18:45:43 <aeperezt> +1 18:46:06 <igorps> anything to add to this topic, guys? 18:46:35 * jsmith has nothing else to add 18:46:38 <aeperezt> we need to have a list of posible talks for the first day 18:46:54 * jsmith is happy to do the regular FPL talk 18:47:33 <aeperezt> jsmith, yes we want you to open with that and maybe do some other later 18:48:04 <igorps> aeperezt: I'll send a mail to the LATAM mailing list asking for talk submissions 18:48:33 <jsmith> aeperezt: I'm happy to do it! 18:48:47 <igorps> #action aeperezt to check if is possible to extend the schedule until 18:00 18:48:54 <aeperezt> igorps, great there are some on the wiki page but we also need talks that will invite people to come 18:49:58 <igorps> #action igorps will contact LATAM contributors for talks submissions 18:50:09 <aeperezt> igorps, jsmith I like to see if there is a way of having a talk on education, and cloud with fedora if you know someone who can do that 18:50:22 <jsmith> Cloud will be easy 18:50:31 <jsmith> Education might be a bit more difficult, but I'll see what I can do 18:50:53 <igorps> Maybe we can invite someone from the cloud SIG 18:52:21 <igorps> I'd like to leave our last minutes for the hackfest/barcamp topic 18:52:31 <igorps> Shall we move on? 18:53:09 <aeperezt> jsmith, thanks 18:53:17 <aeperezt> igorps, i think we can move on 18:53:27 <igorps> thanks, aeperezt 18:53:51 <igorps> #topic Hackfest/barcamp sessions 18:54:12 <igorps> this is something we are not used to have here in LATAM 18:54:32 <jsmith> I understand that, but I think it's a valuable part of the FUDCon experience 18:54:51 <igorps> jsmith: I totally agree 18:54:52 <jsmith> It is simply a way to get people to share information about something they are passionate about 18:55:02 <jsmith> (who might not ordinarily sign up to give a talk) 18:55:07 <aeperezt> jsmith, we are pro having that experience 18:55:22 <jsmith> :-) 18:55:40 <igorps> what I think we need is to explain to attendees what those sessions are 18:55:55 <igorps> we can place this information on the wiki 18:56:22 <jsmith> http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/fudcon-tempe-booklet/page07-good-things-to-know-right.png 18:56:28 <jsmith> That has a good description 18:56:38 <jsmith> (that's part of our "Welcome Packet" for FUDCon Tempe) 18:57:22 <igorps> What I saw at previous FUDCons in LATAM was people coming to hackfest sessions expecting to see a regular talk 18:57:46 <igorps> jsmith: this a good way to address this issue 18:57:57 <igorps> #link http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/fudcon-tempe-booklet/page07-good-things-to-know-right.png 18:58:00 <jsmith> Hackfest sessions are just that -- a session to get together and make *progress* on one item 18:58:58 <igorps> aeperezt: it is a good idea to have this information provided br jsmith translated into Spanish and place on the wiki 18:59:23 <igorps> so everyone will be aware what those sessions mean 18:59:27 <aeperezt> igorps, yes I'm just reading it 18:59:33 <jsmith> No puedo traducirlo bien... solo como gringo 18:59:44 <jsmith> :-) 18:59:48 <aeperezt> jsmith, we will take care of that 19:00:17 <igorps> Yo también no :( 19:00:29 <igorps> aeperezt: nice! 19:01:24 <igorps> #action aeperezt include information (in Spanish) about hackfests and barcamps on the wiki. 19:02:32 <igorps> We also can reinforce that on our blog posts about the upcoming event 19:03:16 <igorps> we are out of time now 19:03:25 <danielbruno> Tive problemas como la electricidad, sólo podía venir ahora 19:03:32 <igorps> anything else to discuss? 19:03:35 <jsmith> danielbruno: No problem 19:04:03 <jsmith> We should start encouraging participants to open tickets if they want subsidies for travel 19:04:15 <jsmith> We can't start buying tickets, etc. yet, but we can start having people sign up 19:04:18 <aeperezt> igorps, I was thinking on that, 19:05:38 <aeperezt> igorps, another topic 19:06:03 <igorps> aeperezt: we can write blog posts about the tickets submissions and also post to mailing lists 19:06:50 <gomix> buenas... 19:06:52 <gomix> got it late 19:06:54 * gomix sorry 19:07:02 <igorps> aeperezt: is there anything else you would like to discuss? 19:07:05 <aeperezt> igorps, I think we can write post on that but not sure it is a good idea 19:07:09 <igorps> gomix: hello! 19:07:33 <gomix> r we moderated? 19:07:45 <aeperezt> gomix, ruby camp of fudcom latam, I have you on the list 19:07:56 <gomix> awesome !!!! 19:08:02 <gomix> ;) 19:08:05 <aeperezt> gomix, also we should do one on redmin 19:08:05 <igorps> gomix: nops 19:08:28 <gomix> ok... sorry guys i was in family lunch... unexpected... 19:08:38 <gomix> in a nice arab restaurant 19:08:52 <igorps> aeperezt: I think the more we be transparent about that the best it will turn out 19:09:20 <igorps> we just need to state that we can't really subsidy everyone 19:09:27 <aeperezt> igorps, yes i know that but many people will submit ticket and not everyone can come 19:09:43 <aeperezt> igorps, there is a budget issue 19:10:22 <igorps> aeperezt: yep, this worries me too 19:10:57 <igorps> aeperezt: are you feeling more like encouraging people individually? 19:12:26 <aeperezt> igorps, If it was for me everyone who ask can come, but there is a budget issue, we can post about how to post a ticket , but then we have to post about parameter to get sponsor 19:13:13 <igorps> aeperezt: I agree, we need to define some criteria and parameters first 19:13:25 <igorps> or it will generare a lot of noise 19:14:00 <aeperezt> igorps, yes that is it 19:14:03 <gomix> hmmm noise is not that bad in this case 19:14:22 <gomix> it will show the board that we need more budget or so.. 19:14:35 <gomix> it will show latam is growing... 19:15:04 <gomix> and so on.. i know somepeople will be frustrated their spectations... 19:15:19 <gomix> but the outcome could be for the best 19:15:33 <igorps> gomix: the problem is that tickets inside LATAM are a lot more expensive than inside US for instance 19:15:48 <gomix> we know 19:15:52 <gomix> we all know 19:15:53 <igorps> and we will have a lot of people coming from outside Panama 19:16:00 <gomix> but we should not "hide" 19:16:08 <igorps> +1 19:16:11 <gomix> not in the bad sense 19:16:29 <gomix> if 100 people wants to come.. 19:16:29 <igorps> the more we are transparent the best it will be 19:16:31 <gomix> thats good 19:16:37 <gomix> if only we can pay for is 10 19:16:40 <gomix> thats bad.. 19:16:51 <gomix> but the good news about the other 90's... is good after all 19:17:24 <igorps> jsmith: we will definitively need help on how to handle travel subsidies 19:18:04 <igorps> we actually passed the time a bit 19:18:20 * jsmith is happy to help coordinate those things 19:18:35 <igorps> +1 19:18:53 <igorps> we can move this discussion the mailing list 19:18:59 <aeperezt> well then let make noice and see what happend 19:19:04 <gomix> latam is just to big and expensive and travel 19:19:17 <gomix> dont get me wrong.. 19:19:20 <danielbruno> we need to add on the agenda of the meeting the definition of the criteria 19:19:30 <aeperezt> igorps, I think will have to send to the email list but what email list ambassadors 19:19:32 <gomix> but i do prefer 3 modes fudcons.. that a large one 19:19:38 <gomix> modest 19:19:56 <gomix> large === large expenses travelling 19:20:02 <gomix> for a few 19:20:39 <igorps> I mean we can discuss that in fudcon-planning mailing list and after the criteria is defined we mail other lists 19:20:53 <gomix> im just presenting some general ideas 19:20:57 <igorps> we are out of time folks 19:21:01 <gomix> ;) 19:21:15 <aeperezt> +1 19:21:15 <danielbruno> hmm ok 19:21:23 <igorps> let's wrap up! 19:21:29 <igorps> #endmeeting