15:04:49 #startmeeting FUDCon Milan Subsidy Meeting 15:04:49 Meeting started Tue Aug 16 15:04:49 2011 UTC. The chair is jsmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:04:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:04:59 #meetingname FUDCon Milan 15:04:59 The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_milan' 15:05:13 #chair jsmith fcrippa tatica 15:05:13 Current chairs: fcrippa jsmith tatica 15:05:18 #topic Roll Call 15:05:25 * jsmith is here 15:06:02 o/ 15:06:32 fcrippa: Are you here? 15:08:05 * jsmith waits a few minutes for fcrippa to be able to join us 15:08:57 * Southern_Gentlem sorta here 15:09:01 :-) 15:09:03 * fcrippa is here 15:09:28 Thanks everyone for coming... let's get started 15:09:36 #topic Introduction 15:09:50 Just as a reminder, we're here today to work on travel subsidies for FUDCon Milan 15:10:20 As a reminder, we're going to focus on requests from inside Italy and EMEA first, and then look at requests from outside of EMEA 15:11:03 #info Subsidy spreadsheet is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmzMMPA67hiGdEhZWUxRa2lfbFd2M0x1QXFua3Y4aGc&hl=en_US 15:11:18 #info Subsidy tickets are at https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=FUDCon+Milan+2011&type=Funding+request&order=priority 15:11:32 brb :\ 15:12:20 Also, by way of announcement, we originally allocated 6000 Euros for travel subsidies 15:12:32 Of that, we've spent 2720, and we have 3280 Euros remaining 15:12:50 Tickets highlighted in light blue on the spreadsheet have had their Trac tickets updated 15:12:58 Anything else before we get started? 15:13:38 Ok then, let's get started 15:14:01 I'm skipping tickets 164, 167, and 185 because they are outside of EMEA 15:14:16 So let's move on to ticket 205 15:14:35 #topic Ticket 205 - Zoltan Hoppar and Gergely Rakosi 15:15:25 do you know these guys? 15:15:31 They're asking for either fuel costs for driving, or hotel rooms 15:15:35 Yes, I know Zoltan very well 15:15:45 He's a very active ambassador from Hungary 15:15:57 (I think it's Hungary... ) 15:16:06 He also does a lot with swag production in EMEA 15:16:49 good! :-) 15:17:07 The request has a +1 from me 15:17:17 I'd just like to hear your input on what to fund 15:17:20 Just fuel? 15:17:22 Just rooms? 15:17:23 Both? 15:17:27 +1 also for me 15:17:33 * jsmith doesn't have a good idea how much the fuel might be 15:18:10 we can say hotel + 150 EUR for the fuel 15:18:24 Hotel for both Zoltan and Gergely? 15:18:27 I'm find with that 15:18:27 room =about 150? 15:18:45 We're allocating 130 Euros per person for hotel room 15:19:08 room +150 for fuel 15:19:25 +1 15:19:59 sorry shared room and 150 for fuel 15:20:32 Yes, the 130 per person for hotel room is assuming a shared room 15:22:06 #agreed Fund ticket 205 for hotel room for Zoltan and Gergely, as well as 150 Euros for fuel 15:22:42 shared room please so there no misunderstandings later 15:22:55 Yes 15:23:10 Like I said, all of the hotel subsidies are for shared rooms 15:23:26 In the cases where people haven't marked themselves as sharing a room on the wiki, we've noted that in the Trac tickets 15:23:43 * jsmith points people to the "Notes" column in the subsidy spreadsheet as well 15:23:48 OK, moving on to the next ticket 15:24:18 #topic Ticket 206 - Robert Scheck 15:24:33 I know Robert 15:24:40 Robert is asking for 133 Euros for flight, and/or hotel room 15:24:48 He's usually very active in EMEA events 15:24:52 Yes 15:24:58 +1 from me 15:25:04 +1 for me 15:25:07 (for both airfare and hotel) 15:25:13 yep 15:25:27 Any other votes/objections/comments/concerns? 15:25:46 i was going to say airfare for now but ok 15:26:01 We don't have that many remaining tickets, so I think we're fine funding both 15:26:10 +1 15:26:40 #agreed to fund ticket 206: 133 Euros for airfare, plus hotel room for Robert Scheck 15:26:49 Give me one second to update the spreadsheet, and then we'll go on to the next ticket 15:27:54 #topic Ticket 210: Pavel Zhukov 15:28:56 I've seen Pavel's name a few times, but don't really know him 15:29:10 Appears to be a packager from Russia 15:29:25 I think I met Pavel once 15:29:29 long time ago 15:29:53 room + airfare 15:30:12 does anyone know him? 15:30:21 * jsmith doesn't know him 15:31:29 skip for now and come back 15:31:38 I just double-checked FAS... he is a packager and a member of the bugs team as well 15:31:50 I guess I'm +1 15:32:33 +1 as well 15:32:53 Any other votes/objections/comments/concerns? 15:33:15 +1 15:33:16 i think maybe this will help get more contributors from RU 15:33:28 Yeah, that's my hope 15:33:32 Looks like we're agreed 15:33:36 3 +1 15:33:57 #agreed fund ticket 210 for Pavel Zhukov: 420 Euros for flight, plus hotel room 15:35:02 #topic Ticket 214: Gianluca Sforna 15:35:35 He's asking for hotel + 120 Euros in train tickets 15:35:41 +1 15:36:01 +1 15:36:18 He's a packager, translator, and helps out with bugs as well 15:36:59 #agreed to fund ticket 214 for Gianluca Sforna (120 Euros for train tickets, plus hotel room) 15:37:12 +1 15:37:20 very active in italy 15:37:36 Yes, it's obvious :-) 15:37:59 OK, as far as I can tell, that covers all the outstanding EMEA tickets 15:38:12 Give me one second to double-check, and then we'll continue 15:38:58 168 is africa which is Emea 15:39:33 It was already agreed to last meeting 15:39:38 That's why it's marked as "assigned" 15:39:44 ok 15:39:51 (line 10 in the spreadsheet) 15:40:18 * tatica back 15:40:40 Next ticket is 167 15:41:05 Oops, I meant 165 15:41:20 Still wrong... 15:41:21 164 15:41:32 Actually, let's take a step back 15:41:40 Just to see where we are at with regards to budget 15:42:10 We have 1800 Euros left, and four non-EMEA tickets 15:42:23 We're obviously not going to be able to fund them all 15:42:29 In fact, we might be able to fund only one of them 15:42:50 So rather than going in ticket order, it's probably better if we prioritize those requests 15:43:25 Now, for what it's worth, we cannot fund ticket 185, as Red Hat cannot fund a subsidy request from a Cuban citizen 15:43:39 (lovely political disputes between the USA and Cuba) 15:43:44 I think 1800 can cover 2 people... 15:43:53 So really, that leaves us three tickets 15:43:54 ( basically the flight) 15:44:15 I think flights for either Guillermo or Abdel would take most of that 1800 Euros 15:44:36 So, I'm just going to put my cards on the table here for a moment and tell people what I think 15:45:22 Guillermo is a member of the Board (positive), but at the same time, he's been subsidized for the past two FUDCons - FUDCon NA and FUDCon LATAM as well (negative) 15:45:47 abdel would be right at the 1800 where gomiz would be over 15:46:05 Abdel did a tremendous job of helping organize FUDCon LATAM, and it might be a nice chance to thank him for his organization 15:46:43 +1 15:46:44 ;) 15:46:57 jsmith, which is the 3rd ticket? 15:47:32 On Truong Ahn Tuan, I think it might be more appropriate to try to see if that ticket was meant for FUDCon APAC 15:48:19 jsmith, nope it say milian airport 15:48:23 Yeah, just saw that 15:48:39 It looks like they're all great requests... but we can't cover them all 15:48:45 Hanoi - Milan, yes 15:48:54 put the # for the 3rd ticket on the spread sheet 15:49:16 so we can see what that bring the total to please 15:51:54 OK, the values are updated in the spreadsheet 15:52:26 * gomix would like to step down and promote abdel ticket ! 15:53:02 OK, that makes the decision slightly easier... thanks gomix 15:53:21 * gomix abdel deserves it, i also have to thank him a lot 15:53:28 190 over budget 760+12 15:53:30 0 15:53:55 looking apropiate the tickets 15:54:00 so its one of the 2 15:54:04 Abdel seems to have a bit more to offer to Milan team 15:54:09 +1 for the tickets 165+167 15:54:15 Yes... unless fcrippa doesn't mind going a bit over on budget 15:54:41 Anh has only package one app (which is awesome) but Abdel could provide organization tips, as long as some talks that he has already propose 15:55:04 has to be only one? 15:55:06 fcrippa: If you're OK with doing both tickets from a budgetary standpoint, we'll do it :-) 15:55:14 **crosses fingers for cheaper tickets) 15:55:17 tatica: That's up to fcrippa -- he is in charge of the budget 15:55:28 * tatica already found some cheaper tickets (not too much, but works) 15:55:31 Southern_Gentlem: I think we can get Abdel's ticket slightly cheaper -- it just depends on the mood of the airlines 15:55:35 no problem 15:56:00 OK, let's go ahead and do both tickets then, and hope for cheaper airline flights :-) 15:56:06 Any objections? 15:56:17 +1 15:56:27 so far we've always underestimate the local budget. We should be able to cover everything ;-) 15:56:27 +1 for both tickets 15:56:31 if the event organizer is ok i am ok for voteing for overbudget 15:56:45 +1 15:56:57 * fcrippa means "overestimated"... 15:57:01 #agreed to fund ticket 165 for Abdel Martinez (1100 Euros for flight + hotel) 15:57:33 #agreed to fund ticket 167 for Truong Anh Tuan for 630 Euros for flight, plus hotel 15:58:01 #topic summary 15:58:13 We've allocated 6183 Euros at this point 15:58:31 wait a second 15:58:36 * jsmith waits 15:58:47 we have an odd # of rooms 15:59:10 * fcrippa has to leave for 10 minutes 15:59:32 Southern_Gentlem: We'll deal with that once we figure out how many rooms RH is paying for for its own employees 15:59:43 Southern_Gentlem: It's not a huge concern 15:59:45 16 rooms sorry 16:00:02 16 beds = 8 rooms, correct? 16:00:17 18-2=16=8 16:00:28 OK, looks like we're OK 16:00:32 yep 16:00:38 #topic Any other business? 16:01:07 didnt want another 133 sneaking in the budget 16:02:16 If there's nothing else, I'll go ahead and close the meeting 16:02:23 (and spend the afternoon updating tickets) 16:02:27 Thanks everyone! 16:02:30 #endmeeting