15:04:16 <jsmith> #startmeeting FUDCon Milan planning meeting 15:04:16 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Sep 9 15:04:16 2011 UTC. The chair is jsmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:04:16 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:04:24 <jsmith> #chair fcrippa tatica rbergeron 15:04:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: fcrippa jsmith rbergeron tatica 15:04:32 <jsmith> #meetingname fudcon_milan 15:04:32 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_milan' 15:04:38 <jsmith> #topic Roll Call 15:04:53 <tatica> .fas tatica 15:04:54 <zodbot> tatica: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com> 15:05:00 * fcrippa is here 15:05:05 * jsmith is here 15:06:04 <jsmith> OK, let's get started! 15:07:09 <jsmith> #topic Status update: Hotel 15:07:47 <jsmith> At this point, we have 24 or the 30 reserved rooms booked 15:08:07 <jsmith> (that's assuming that the hotel doesn't assign people to the twenty original rooms when they say that they're part of FUDCon) 15:08:21 <jsmith> fcrippa: Can you confirm with the hotel that that isn't the case? 15:08:33 * jsmith would hate to run into problems due to a misunderstanding 15:08:43 <fcrippa> I can check in few minutes 15:08:59 <jsmith> OK, perfect 15:09:11 <jsmith> Anything else with regards to the hotel? 15:09:50 <jsmith> #info 24 rooms (of the 30 rooms reserved) have been allocated so far 15:10:02 <jsmith> #topic FUDPub 15:10:06 <fcrippa> do you expect a total of 30 rooms booked, right? 15:10:44 <jsmith> fcrippa: I assuming that we'll use somewhere between twenty and thirty, but I have no idea about the people who booked on their own 15:10:56 <fcrippa> ok 15:11:20 <jsmith> fcrippa: I just don't want to assume that a room is going to be given to someone with a travel subsidy, but the hotel assume that they can give the room to someone who booked on their own, but said that they were part of FUDCon 15:11:24 <jsmith> fcrippa: Does that make sense? 15:13:01 <fcrippa> well, let's make an example 15:13:07 <fcrippa> just to be sure 15:13:29 <fcrippa> room number 1 15:13:34 <fcrippa> (gerold + fabian) 15:14:09 <jsmith> Correct... 15:14:12 <fcrippa> do you expect to have this room billed on your credit card? 15:14:18 <fcrippa> ok 15:14:31 <fcrippa> room 12 15:14:34 <jsmith> Anything marked in blue should be charged to my credit card 15:14:42 <fcrippa> the same (you'll pay with your cc) 15:14:45 <jsmith> Anything in Red Hat will be paid by Red Hat 15:14:56 <jsmith> I mean, anything in Red will be paid by Red Hat 15:15:05 <fcrippa> ok 15:15:07 <jsmith> Anything in yellow will be paid for by the person staying in the room 15:15:13 <fcrippa> and you're going to manage the rh payment, aren't you? 15:15:17 <jsmith> Yes. 15:15:22 <fcrippa> ok perfect 15:15:27 <jsmith> My concern is this... 15:15:34 <fcrippa> yep yep 15:15:36 <fcrippa> I understand now 15:15:39 <fcrippa> no problem 15:15:51 <fcrippa> if someone will book saying "fedora" 15:15:57 <jsmith> Let's say someone (we'll call him Jimmy) comes along to the hotel and says "I'd like a room -- I'm with fedora" 15:16:07 <fcrippa> he has to pay for himself 15:16:14 <jsmith> They say "Oh yeah, we have twenty rooms for Fedora... you're good" 15:16:23 <jsmith> When we've already allocated those twenty rooms on our list 15:16:27 <jsmith> Does that make sense? 15:16:38 <fcrippa> yes 15:16:55 <fcrippa> but they are getting the name list form us 15:17:04 <jsmith> OK, I just wanted to make sure :-) 15:17:11 <jsmith> OK, let's talk about FUDPub 15:17:14 <fcrippa> (this is valid for "UNA Hotel mediterraneo") 15:17:14 <jsmith> Any updates there? 15:17:20 * jsmith understands 15:17:32 <fcrippa> for "hotel perugino" if you say "fedora" it means that you get only a discount 15:17:41 <jsmith> OK, perfect 15:17:45 <fcrippa> ok, aligned on thsi 15:17:53 <fcrippa> :-) 15:19:03 <jsmith> Status update on FUDPub? 15:19:23 <fcrippa> nothing special 15:19:25 <fcrippa> we have the reservation 15:19:45 <jsmith> OK, my only concern at this point is making sure people know how to get to FUDPub from either the hotel or the university 15:19:56 <fcrippa> and we don't have to pay anything 15:19:58 <fcrippa> ...yet 15:19:58 <jsmith> I saw a map in the booklet, but we need that information on the wiki as well 15:20:19 <fcrippa> ok 15:20:37 <fcrippa> anyway during the event we're organizing the moving all together 15:21:00 <fcrippa> (can you add an action for me to put this info on the wiki?) 15:21:16 <jsmith> You're a chair -- you can do it as well... 15:21:29 <tatica> :) 15:21:33 <jsmith> #action fcrippa to add information to the wiki about how to get to FUDPub 15:21:45 <fcrippa> :-) thanks 15:22:19 <fcrippa> payment for fudpub can be done that evening with credit card 15:22:20 <pandaconstantin> Hi everyone 15:22:43 <jsmith> Perfect... 15:22:45 <jsmith> #topic Booklet 15:23:01 <jsmith> I saw the draft of the booklet on the mailing list -- it looks good 15:23:07 <jsmith> Just a couple of minor issues 15:23:23 <jsmith> 1) I need to write a welcome letter 15:23:50 <jsmith> 2) I'd like to see a blank schedule in the booklet that people can fill out with the barcamp sessions 15:24:07 <jsmith> 3) Be careful that the text isn't too near the edges of the page. 15:24:07 <fcrippa> another issue is the "printing" 15:24:19 <fcrippa> print the booklet in italy is try expensive 15:24:33 <fcrippa> (try -> very) 15:25:15 <fcrippa> apparently 200 copies is a very small number for everyone 15:26:01 <jsmith> OK, if it's cheaper, I can print it here in the USA and bring it with me 15:26:29 <fcrippa> do you have a quotation? 15:27:09 <fcrippa> (here the price is between 1000 and 1500 EUR...) 15:27:32 <fcrippa> anyway we should have that budget available 15:29:19 <fcrippa> #action jsmith to decide where to print booklets 15:29:24 <fcrippa> ;-) 15:29:35 <jsmith> Yeah, I think it only cost us a couple hundred dollars to do the booklets in Tempe 15:29:41 <jsmith> I'll figure it out :-) 15:29:55 <jsmith> #topic Posters/Signs/Artwork 15:31:18 <fcrippa> tatica: do you have updates? 15:31:31 <fcrippa> I know Samuele was looking for some "totem" 15:31:40 <tatica> fcrippa, all artwork has been done, and updates has been sent to design maillist 15:31:50 <fcrippa> ok 15:31:56 <tatica> t-shirts, banners, pretty much everything 15:32:08 <fcrippa> yep, I saw few things last week 15:32:17 <fcrippa> :-) 15:33:03 <fcrippa> jsmith: do you need some specific info? 15:33:34 <jsmith> No, just making sure that things are on track, as we're getting down to the last few weeks before FUDCon 15:34:29 <fcrippa> yep 15:34:37 <jsmith> #topic T-shirts 15:34:55 <fcrippa> sent 2 days ago to the printing company 15:35:01 <jsmith> Awesome :-) 15:35:09 <jsmith> #info t-shirts were sent to the printing company two days ago 15:35:29 <fcrippa> we should have 200 tshirts (800 EUR) 15:36:10 <jsmith> Ok, sounds great 15:36:18 <fcrippa> but as Byte-Code we ordered 100 additional tshirts 15:36:18 <jsmith> #topic Food/catering 15:36:55 <fcrippa> to ensure one for everyone ;-) 15:37:02 <fcrippa> one thing about tshirt 15:37:11 <fcrippa> we the 100 already payed order is precessed 15:37:20 <fcrippa> but sooner or later wee have to pay the company of the remaining 200 15:37:31 <fcrippa> you can use the credit card 15:37:42 <fcrippa> (apparently you can pay online....) 15:38:21 <fcrippa> I'm waiting the details about "how" to do it... 15:38:44 <fcrippa> catering 15:38:53 <fcrippa> we have a problem here 15:38:54 <fcrippa> the deposit 15:39:19 <jsmith> ok 15:39:23 <fcrippa> deposit has to be done at least 3-4 days before the event 15:39:34 <fcrippa> (50% of the total) 15:39:49 <fcrippa> price is 11 euro per person (saturday catering) 15:40:06 <fcrippa> and 13 eur per person on sunday 15:40:15 <fcrippa> but they don't accept credit card 15:40:36 <fcrippa> they are investigating about the possibility to use paypal (they have to open an account) 15:40:44 <fcrippa> a bank transfer will be much better 15:40:57 <fcrippa> jsmith: to you think is it possible? 15:41:06 <jsmith> It's possible, but it usually takes a long time 15:41:28 <jsmith> PayPay would be easier, but let me see what I can find out 15:41:37 <fcrippa> ok 15:42:08 <fcrippa> as an "emergency" plan I can do the payment 15:42:29 <fcrippa> and then fedora can reimburse me later 15:42:38 <jsmith> OK, thank you for being willing to do that 15:42:41 <fcrippa> but if we can find a way to do a 'direct' transaction will be better 15:42:51 <fcrippa> no problem 15:42:52 <jsmith> Hopefully we find a better way, but if not, we'll take you up on that offer 15:43:05 <jsmith> OK, the last topic I have is the budget 15:43:08 <jsmith> #topic Budget 15:43:14 <fcrippa> nok 15:43:22 <fcrippa> whoos... I mean ok :-) 15:43:37 <fcrippa> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuyWt8b_1abLdE01TzZNNEYwRFpqZFpzQnZodFV6Z2c&hl=en_GB 15:43:46 <jsmith> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuyWt8b_1abLdE01TzZNNEYwRFpqZFpzQnZodFV6Z2c&hl=en_GB 15:44:43 <fcrippa> at the moment, considering 6300 EUR for subsidiary 15:44:53 <fcrippa> and a range between 100 and 150 attendees 15:45:01 <jsmith> Right. 15:45:15 <jsmith> There may be other costs that aren't show on that page, however 15:45:16 <fcrippa> we still have 2700 euro available 15:45:22 <fcrippa> yep 15:45:27 <jsmith> (booklet printing, signs, supplies, etc.) 15:45:32 <fcrippa> (booklet, for example) 15:45:37 <jsmith> :-) 15:45:49 <jsmith> OK, so it looks like we're in pretty good shape 15:45:56 <tatica> :) 15:45:58 <fcrippa> hopefully :-) 15:46:00 <fcrippa> ont hing 15:46:05 <fcrippa> venue 15:46:13 <fcrippa> I spoke the "boss" of the administationg 15:46:30 <fcrippa> getting close to the event they start asking a lot of signed paper 15:46:36 <fcrippa> everything i confirmed 15:46:57 <fcrippa> we have to pay 400 EUR (for the security guy that has to open and close the place) 15:47:09 <jsmith> OK, make sure that gets listed on the budget page then 15:47:13 <fcrippa> we decided to ask byte-code to do that 15:47:20 <jsmith> OK, that works too :-) 15:47:31 <fcrippa> because using a "non italian" entity is too complex... 15:47:45 <jsmith> Ah, that makes sense 15:47:47 <fcrippa> (University in Italy is not very flexible...) 15:47:55 <fcrippa> yep 15:48:04 <fcrippa> anyway space and availability is confirmed 15:48:10 <jsmith> Awesome 15:48:15 <fcrippa> and "hopefully" we signed last document few days ago... 15:48:17 <fcrippa> :-) 15:48:31 <jsmith> (Let's make sure that we include directions to the univeristy and how to find the right building at the university in the wiki page) 15:49:58 <fcrippa> ok 15:50:17 <fcrippa> #action fcrippa to include directions to the univeristy and how to find the right building at the university in the wiki page 15:50:48 <jsmith> #topic Any other topics for discussion today? 15:51:39 <fcrippa> one thing 15:51:50 <fcrippa> in few days (mid of Septmber...) 15:52:09 <fcrippa> we're going to start some marketing activities 15:52:23 <fcrippa> (Facebook, twitter, g+) 15:52:40 <fcrippa> redhat Italy will send a mail to all the rh italian customers 15:53:02 <fcrippa> (we had also a good coverage on some italians newspaper) 15:53:25 <jsmith> Awesome :-) 15:53:41 <fcrippa> before starting the mkt things I'll send a preview (at least the one that will be sent by redhat) 15:53:49 <jsmith> Sounds great 15:53:56 <fcrippa> redhat is going to write it... so I hope it'll be fine 15:54:07 <fcrippa> :-) 15:54:43 <jsmith> Yeah, let's hope so :-) 15:54:52 <fcrippa> jsmith: did you book your flight? 15:55:09 <jsmith> fcrippa: Yes... I'm arriving on the 28th 15:55:18 <fcrippa> ok 15:55:25 <jsmith> fcrippa: That way I can help with organization for a couple of days before the conference starts 15:55:45 <fcrippa> yep 15:56:09 <fcrippa> with the university guys we reserved the afternoon before the event to setup everything 15:56:30 <fcrippa> (move thirt, boxes, etc...) 15:57:24 <fcrippa> last thing 15:57:25 <fcrippa> ok 15:57:26 <fcrippa> scheduling 15:57:34 <fcrippa> barcamp vs hackfest vs other 15:57:46 <fcrippa> so far the schedule is pretty open 15:58:25 <fcrippa> but I think we should define some "slots" 15:59:01 <fcrippa> I'm sure smith wants to say "welcome" and "goodbye" to everyone ;-) 15:59:01 <jsmith> That's fine. 15:59:35 <jsmith> Yes, I think the first couple of hours on Saturday should be for a welcome, introduction to the barcamp, and barcamp voting 15:59:45 <jsmith> If you want to have some pre-defined sessions as well, that's perfectly fine 15:59:53 <fcrippa> ok 16:00:26 <fcrippa> I think a welcome should be fine 16:01:10 <fcrippa> 9.30 AM - 6.00PM is it a good range for you? 16:02:23 <jsmith> Sounds fine to me 16:02:27 <fcrippa> ok 16:02:40 <fcrippa> (10.00am - 5.30 on sunday maybe?) 16:02:57 <jsmith> Sure, sounds great 16:03:49 <fcrippa> ok, I think we covered more or less everything... 16:04:08 <fcrippa> (there are some more other small things.. like badge printing, or coffee break and so on...) 16:04:45 <jsmith> Right... badge printing should be easy 16:05:01 <jsmith> I think ianweller and stickster have a process for converting the names of registrants on the wiki into PDF files 16:05:04 <fcrippa> (badges will be printed during last week, and coffee break will be managed directly by Italian ambassadors) 16:05:25 <jsmith> Sounds great 16:05:34 <fcrippa> yep, it should be a problem... 16:05:51 <fcrippa> (even using just open office... it's pretty straight forward) 16:06:20 <jsmith> Well, they have a script that autogenerates the QR codes, etc. 16:06:37 <jsmith> I'll follow up with them to make sure we have that working well ahead of time :-) 16:06:38 <fcrippa> ok, cool! 16:06:53 <jsmith> #action jsmith to follow up on badge creation script 16:07:01 <fcrippa> but anyway there are some people that are thinking to use the QR code to do something funny 16:07:01 <jsmith> Anything else? 16:07:23 <jsmith> The QR code just links to the person's FAS information, if I remember correctly 16:07:31 <fcrippa> yep 16:07:37 <fcrippa> but it's pretty useless in a event like fedora 16:08:05 <jsmith> Perhaps :-/ 16:08:24 <fcrippa> I mean... is it very valuable to scan a badge in a bar camp? 16:08:50 <jsmith> Well, to save someone's name and email address, yes 16:08:53 <fcrippa> I suggested to maria and samuele to think about something more social and fun 16:09:01 <fcrippa> (no ideas yet anyway...() 16:10:14 <fcrippa> ok 16:10:44 <fcrippa> let's see if we can have some alternatives and the we'll decide 16:11:09 <jsmith> Makes sense 16:11:11 <fcrippa> anyway the pal is to print badges only few days before the event 16:11:19 <fcrippa> (the "plan"...) 16:11:35 <jsmith> Yes, that's the way we've done it in Panama and Tempe 16:13:08 <fcrippa> ok 16:13:13 <fcrippa> I think we covered eve thing... 16:13:21 <jsmith> I think we have as well 16:13:59 <fcrippa> good! :-) 16:14:27 <fcrippa> jsmith: I'll ping you during the week for tshirt payment 16:14:37 <jsmith> Sounds great 16:14:43 <jsmith> I'll be around :-) 16:14:44 <fcrippa> see you next week guys! 16:14:49 <jsmith> #endmeeting