14:05:28 #startmeeting 14:05:28 Meeting started Fri Mar 23 14:05:28 2012 UTC. The chair is KageSenshi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:05:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:05:35 #meetingname fudcon kl 2012 14:05:35 The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_kl_2012' 14:05:46 #topic roll call 14:05:47 :) 14:05:48 .fas ? 14:05:54 .fas izhar 14:05:55 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 14:05:55 yeah 14:06:05 KageSenshi: can you walk people through the links to "how the subsidy process works" and decision making, and also the link to the budget spreadsheet 14:06:09 * rbergeron is here 14:06:10 (after roll call) 14:06:11 .fas kaio.net 14:06:12 kaio: kaio 'Caius Chance (かいお)' 14:06:17 * rbergeron is adding tickets to the subsidy meeting queue 14:06:24 .fas udinnet 14:06:25 udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' 14:06:27 .fas adimania 14:06:29 .fas FranciscoD 14:06:33 adimania: adimania 'Aditya Patawari' 14:06:36 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' - franciscodubo 'Francisco Javier Dubó Ortíz' 14:06:37 .fas MavJS 14:06:38 .fas kumarpraveen 14:06:41 MavJS: mavjs 'Ye Myat Kaung' 14:06:44 praveenkumar: kumarpraveen '' 14:06:58 .fas soumya 14:07:01 soumyac: kernelhacker 'soumyadip das mahapatra' - soumya 'Soumya Kanti Chakraborty' - soumyadip 'Soumyadip Saha' - soumyakantig 'soumya kanti ghosh' 14:07:13 .fas tysseries 14:07:14 TYSSeries: tysseries '' 14:07:15 .fas snavin 14:07:18 hanthana: snavin 'Danishka Navin' 14:07:40 ok :) 14:07:45 guess plenty are here 14:07:58 and i think all submitted the talks 14:08:14 .fas seatux 14:08:15 meng: seatux 'Meng Shen' 14:08:17 .fas mahayalamkhan@gmail.com 14:08:19 maktrix: mak 'Mahay Alam Khan' 14:08:30 .fas callkalpa 14:08:32 callkalpa: callkalpa 'Kalpa Welivitigoda' 14:08:41 #topic funding requests 14:08:56 .fas rtnpro@gmail.com 14:08:57 rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' 14:08:58 hi all, welcome to the subsidy request meeting :) 14:09:47 #link our budget is here : http://goo.gl/rRVyg 14:10:15 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/report/13 14:10:21 #info Subsidy requests are in the report above (yay) 14:10:38 at the moment, the budget we have for the event is 15k usd, rbergeron said we might get 20k , but not sure yet 14:10:38 oh wait a second 14:10:44 why didn't those update right, hrmmmm 14:10:54 kage: yes, I am still trying to confirm that $$ :) 14:11:23 ok :) 14:12:33 KageSenshi: can you just note the information about "how to request" and that we've asked people to describe what they want to accomplish 14:12:42 so poepe here understand and readers of logs know? :) 14:12:59 so, based on current budget at least, we might not able to approve everyone, so i hope everyone understand 14:13:51 * rbergeron would also note we aren't (i hope) planning on allocating all of the funding today, since the deadline hasn't ended 14:13:59 yeah 14:14:26 * KageSenshi goes get a wiki link 14:15:11 #link selection criteria will be based on criterias noted here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees#Criteria 14:15:43 hi everyone 14:16:05 #info note: we aren't planning on allocating all of the funding today, since the deadline hasn't ended .. there will be another funding approval meeting again 14:16:06 is this the channel for approval of fudcon subsidies? 14:16:11 le_termino, yes 14:16:21 oh! thanls 14:16:23 thanks 14:16:55 so is there some questions i need to answer to support my claim for subsidy? 14:17:08 maybe le_termino , wait up until your ticket is reviewed :) 14:17:26 lets start with kaio i guess .. 14:17:27 :) 14:17:38 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/278 14:17:45 wow 14:17:49 kaio, as i noted, its 800 usd 14:18:01 kaio, which airline is that again ? 14:18:16 airasia 14:18:38 + luggage, i think thats about 900 i guess 14:18:45 I forgot to write down the plane number. 14:18:47 * rbergeron notes she fixed the report list 14:19:09 And as everyone knows prices keep changing. 14:19:33 kaio, can you briefly describe what you are planning do contribute & achieve in the event ? 14:19:46 * rbergeron wonders about the hotel costs; do we have a firm amount that we can just know for everyone, rather than having a different number for each person? :) 14:20:24 KageSenshi: as famsco I am looking forward to see ambassadors in person 14:20:28 rbergeron, in the budget doc, i allocated 1 room for 5 nights and 4 rooms for 4 nights 14:20:51 okay, so i gues i'm wondering what the actual hotel amount is here that we'd be looking at 14:21:06 because kaio has $200+, but that's based on not sharing a room, etc 14:21:07 rbergeron, 1 room can fit 4 person .. though i'm wondering whether you are coming over as we'll need to allocate a room for women 14:21:22 rbergeron, total budget for room currently is about 2.2k usd 14:21:24 and working out about swags & media production/distribution, funding workflow, and anything famsco can assist on event organisation. 14:21:43 rbergeron: I am happy to share the room. You can half that $200. 14:21:50 ? 14:22:01 inode0, 14:22:08 KageSenshi: i would likely be in my own room, but at this point i am likely not coming, but i am looking for someone awesome to be in my place. it's right at release time, and there are a lot of press things to do at that point, esp as it's the first release i'll have been around, etc. 14:22:13 but we can take up that point later. 14:22:16 How much of the budget is allocated for travel subsidies and how much of that is being allocated in this meeting? 14:22:43 And I prefer to share room with people so we may be able to start hack-party 14:24:39 inode0, from the original plan, about 7k usd .. and for this meeting i'm aiming to get maybe 3-6 person approved 14:25:14 depending on their relevancy , and also their possible contribution to the event 14:25:18 and also cost 14:26:13 on this ticket - I think we should *not* be considering the "travel to another event as well" - that request needs to go through your regional approval process, we don't want to mix funds between fudcons and regional budget, as they are separate 14:26:43 we can buy the ticket all at once, but i odn' twant to load costs into this budget that aren't relevant to the event 14:27:12 +1 14:27:47 I can request from famsco trac for the extra mileages in parallel. 14:28:29 roughly the ticket will be around $50 off if no extra mileages. 14:29:17 $50 less you mean ? 14:29:27 is it $50 or $200? 14:29:32 PS: The trip from KL to HK is worth to do because it costs extra $200 to meet the community in South China at once. Please kindly approve that also. 14:30:19 I can confirm after the meeting. 14:30:49 ok 14:30:55 okay, so let's assume for the moment it is $50 less, and if it is more less, adjust accordingly 14:31:33 I think $200 was based on the flight Australia <-> KL, but since there is only 1 flight per week, extra nights in hotel may offset that badly. 14:31:50 s/$200/$200 difference/ 14:32:25 if I transit to HK I can sleep free for 3 days 14:32:32 kaio, extra night as in, from what date to what date ? .. 14:33:06 I leave Brisbane on SUN, so MON TUE WED. 14:33:17 * KageSenshi notes that we can also find someone in local community to offer couchsurfing :) 14:33:29 +1 14:33:30 THU FRI SAT will be occupying hotel in KL. 14:34:31 ok 14:34:52 kaio, are you ok with couchsurfing? 14:35:01 KageSenshi: we shoudl probably break up the amounts in the spreadsheet for $flightamount vs. hotel amount, since we have a lot of people assuming different hotel costs. and just give everyone the same hotel amount #. 14:35:16 KageSenshi: couchsurfing in KL? or in HK? 14:35:42 I will start requesting fund for the transit and see how it goes. I am okay for couchsurfing but if I can get funding $50 from famsco I will do it. 14:35:56 rbergeron, theres the hotel cost in row47 14:36:07 rbergeron, but yeah i guess i should note their days 14:36:09 on hotel I have no preference 14:36:46 ok 14:36:58 rbergeron, couchsurfing in kl i mean 14:37:17 in HK I have parents 14:37:48 KageSenshi: let's just assume people are staying fo the full time, we don't need to go crazy as far as the exactness there 14:38:01 rbergeron, ok 14:38:08 so the sponsorship amount is flight only in that column? 14:38:13 rbergeron, yeah 14:39:13 erm 14:39:25 * KageSenshi suggest postponing kaio evaluation to next meeting 14:39:50 kaio: can you file the ticket with your regional folks and put the link to it in this one? 14:39:52 as he need to check on the famsco funding 14:39:54 just so we can keep an eye on it 14:39:56 KageSenshi: ok thx or can you approve the flight AU <-> KL? 14:40:10 rbergeron: roger that 14:40:29 kaio, i want to go through everyone first before approving any .. so we'll get back at the end of meeting 14:40:52 KageSenshi: no problem ;) 14:41:06 rbergeron, next person ? 14:41:31 rbergeron, or you have other questions? 14:41:32 * rbergeron looks at list 14:41:50 next person who is in this meeting is udinnet 14:42:01 yo 14:42:04 :) 14:42:46 okay, go for it 14:42:54 #link udinnet request : https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/279 14:43:07 hi udinnet 14:43:12 Hi :) 14:43:54 udinnet, could you briefly describe whats your existing contributions, what you wish contribute and achieve in fudcon ? 14:45:10 Well I have done few fedora events in sri lanka along the way and Planning to have more. 14:46:07 #link http://www.pageshack.com/computers/operating-systems/fedora-seminar-anuradhapura-2011 14:46:29 I really like to meet the APAC fedora people. And also I'm really like to discuss about swag distribution process, Improving contributor joining process, Training newbie contributors, training end users.. Also I'd like to participate those nice discussions stated in the wiki 14:47:17 Not only apac people, but also every f.pro contributor who participates the event :) 14:47:57 I'll be giving a talk regarding Linux security best practices with Fedora 14:48:34 * callkalpa have to leave now, will be back in 45 mins back. Hope it is ok to skip my position in the order and join at the end 14:48:42 callkalpa, ok 14:48:55 udinnet, any more to add ? 14:49:03 eof 14:49:05 :) 14:49:08 ok :) 14:49:09 thanks 14:49:42 can we note how much the request is for? :) 14:50:17 * KageSenshi notes that the mentioned request was 150, but if we add the luggage+food, its about 210 .. 14:50:27 I think the travel cost will be around $200 14:50:35 yep 14:50:40 I have commented it on my ticket 14:51:04 ok :) 14:51:40 And I'll go with KageSenshi 's decision for hotel booking 14:51:42 udinnet, can we expect you to add some more topics if needed if you got approved? 14:51:56 can I ask a question? what's with the luggage cost? is that even if you carry on? 14:52:04 KageSenshi, last time i did not spent extra free for luggage 14:52:18 rbergeron, for check-in luggage 14:52:29 i was using normal ticket given by Mozilla from CMB to KL 14:52:45 soumyac, i hope this will apply to udinnet as well 14:52:48 i'd really like to see people carrying-on if they can - it's not a cost we generally cover for any other fudcons 14:52:49 KageSenshi: Sure thing 14:52:57 so, i hope this will apply to udinnet as well 14:53:07 unless htey are bringing 400 boxes of swag or something, which would be different, obviously 14:53:20 and KageSenshi: food? 14:53:45 rbergeron, as its a low-cost airline, food is separate .. 14:53:55 Food it kinda cheap, it'll cost arround $8 for up and down 14:53:58 hantana : ? 14:54:28 KageSenshi: Am I right? 14:54:53 KageSenshi: I think generally we ask people to cover their own food en route - partially because "you're going to eat wherever you are" ... partially because trying to reimburse incredibly small amounts afterwards is very difficult. 14:54:54 udinnet, iirc its usd13, but yeah, about right 14:54:56 soumyac, misfire ;-) 14:55:06 rbergeron, it will be included into the flight cost 14:55:08 i think if it's a "absolutely cannot afford it" type of thing that's something to consider, but... 14:55:20 single receipt 14:55:47 is there a way for people to purchase fod directly on the flight or can it only be planned ahead? 14:55:50 food 14:55:52 * soumyac apologizes for incorrect misfiring of your nick *hanthana* 14:56:06 rbergeron, if its bought ahead, it will be part of flight cost 14:56:16 they can also buy on-flight 14:56:28 though at a higher price 14:57:16 * FranciscoD notes that air asia food is 3$ a combo, not really expensive 14:57:26 (on prebook, not sure what the on-flight cost is) 14:57:55 * KageSenshi dont quite remember the difference, though should be about usd1-2 higher 14:58:13 (ah 13 was myr, not usd) 14:58:43 and so the person organizing the flight is also going to have to check with the person about their food preferences and so forth? 14:59:29 well, if it's $3, i guess that's not going to kill us, i just don't like setting the "all inclusive of every single cost" precedent 14:59:53 ok 15:00:01 :) 15:01:06 rbergeron, so i guess, only include the base price? 15:01:08 I have no idea about room costs 15:01:24 * inode0 thinks we need a more efficient process here than 2 tickets per hour but doesn't know what to suggest at this point 15:01:35 KageSenshi: you can set an upper limit to miscellaneous flight tickets maybe (stuff other than base price)? 15:01:50 inode0: +1 15:01:56 inode0, yeah :( 15:02:10 "miscellaneous prices in the flight tickets", I meant 15:03:06 let's just do the base price, i guess, unless people feel really strongly about covering extra food 15:03:15 +1 15:03:29 it's just one more thing for the person purchasing plane tickets to have to deal with, figuring out food preferences, etc. 15:04:04 I don't know how much of time will it take to last the promo prices, after that ticket costs will be higher from around $30-50 15:04:35 rbergeron, btw, usually in apac, harish asked for us to buy it ourselves first, and claim from him 15:05:09 KageSenshi, the reimbursements took a lot of time for us. 15:05:34 well, i will sort that out with harish, it's always been easier for me to buy the ticket directly, than to worry aobut how to wire money to another country 15:05:40 which adds additional costs 15:05:46 rbergeron, ok 15:05:50 and requires me going over to the bank and so forth 15:05:56 Plus if an elected person is booking then we might get some sort of group discount. 15:06:16 yeah, i'm not going to be trying to get a group discount 15:06:23 adimania, btw, keep nagging him for reimbursement, he himself said that in fudcon pune :) 15:06:38 :D 15:06:38 KageSenshi, I remember that clearly :D 15:06:48 :) 15:06:50 i can either book tikets or i can try and get a group discount but i can't spend endless amounts of time on both :) 15:06:54 adimania, mine got cleared in about a month 15:07:07 okay, can we move on with making a decision here 15:07:10 ok 15:07:13 next person~! 15:07:15 before we get to one per hour :) 15:07:18 did we approve this? 15:07:41 * rbergeron didn't see any yays/nays 15:07:49 rbergeron, i'm planning to go through everyone first , and vote at the end 15:07:58 rbergeron, or you want to approve early ? 15:08:06 it is KageSenshi 's desiccation :) 15:08:15 rbergeron, KageSenshi in Sri Lanka the USD rate is going up, so it would be better to buy it from out side of Sri Lanka 15:08:19 sorry decision 15:08:22 KageSenshi: the whole entire list? or just a first grouping? 15:08:30 +1 hanthana 15:08:38 as i think its more fair to go through those who attended here .. before approving 15:08:49 coz some have a rather high cost 15:09:06 rbergeron, just those who attended tonight 15:09:12 how much are we wanting to spend in this meeting? 15:09:33 rbergeron, 3-6 person .. (didnt quite give thought on amount) 15:10:05 #link maktrix's request : https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/280 15:10:12 :) 15:10:14 i mean it's hard to ... say we want to go through and decide on the tickets in this meeting without having... an idea of what to balance that against, I guess 15:10:27 in other words: there is no reason to say no, if we just got to our 3-6 people :) 15:10:35 not that we want to say no to everyone but i think you understand what i mean 15:10:57 rbergeron, ok, lets make that to 3k :) 15:11:10 around 40% of the amount we can allocate 15:11:43 yep understood 15:11:54 as an observer I'm really confused by what is going on, I don't know which tickets we are going to consider, not all the ones in the queue now? 15:12:24 KageSenshi, rbergeron can I go next? my office is about to be closed and I'll have to move out in some time. 15:12:42 maktrix, could you give adimania first? 15:12:56 inode0, i was planning to go through those who attended, but i guess bad decision there :( 15:12:58 :) I'm starving 15:13:02 will go adimania 15:13:04 ok 15:13:12 +1 for adimania 15:13:21 adimania, quickly , describe what you can contribute / wish to achieve :) 15:13:25 * adimania thanks maktrix :) 15:13:36 I have been a fedora contributor and ambassador since last 2-3 years. I have done several events in a few universities and have given talks and organized hackfedsts in FUDCon, Pune, FOSS.in and GNUnify. 15:13:36 I was a Fedora summer coding student back in my college. I have also worked a bit on packaging. I also wrote the spec to split a couple of large rpms for kde. I have also worked for fedora-infra team as an apprentice. 15:13:36 For FUDCon KL, I have planned a talk on Puppet with some tips on its usage in cloud environment. I am open to have a hands-on on puppet should there be interested participants. 15:14:20 I am interested in infra related topics, so I would look out for contributors in that direction. 15:14:32 * KageSenshi notes the travel is approximately $600 15:14:36 nope. 15:14:50 adimania, what would be the cost pls? 15:14:55 Travel from Bangalore is about $310 15:15:03 ok 15:15:09 I have added that updated cost in comment. 15:15:19 ah right 15:15:44 My travel plans are similar, if not same, to FranciscoD and praveenkumar. 15:15:50 rbergeron, any questions for him? .. else we'll go next 15:16:15 (/me thinks most travel related questions have been answered earlier) 15:17:41 nope, i think they're fine 15:17:44 ok 15:17:52 maktrix, yours? 15:19:33 ah pto 15:20:43 hanthana, you there? 15:20:49 KageSenshi, yep 15:20:53 ok :) 15:21:17 #link hanthana request https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/281 15:21:38 hanthana, could you briefly describe your request? 15:21:48 #link adimania request https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/289 15:22:06 * adimania apology for pasting in between :( 15:22:07 KageSenshi, sure 15:22:08 I have been contributing to Fedora since 2007 and take a part in marketing, localization, etc. I do maintain successfull fedora remix 'Hanthana Linux (hanthana.org)' 15:22:09 For the FUDcon KL 2012: 15:22:09 I will give two talks on "Fedora in your school" and "Friends" as listed in the wiki. 15:22:09 First talk is about how we can use Fedora for all generic requirements of a school/college. Such as, ICT Dev, Educational Tools, Adminstration, etc. And the second one is about contributing to other major FOSS projects shiping with Fedora. Such as Mozilla Firefox, Gnome, LibreOffice, etc. 15:22:11 More over I expecting to organize an open discussion on future of Fedora APAC, specially about 2012 plans. 15:22:14 In addiction to above mention activities I could share my experience on remixing Fedora for the workshop of "Fun with LiveCD" as I am maintaining Hanthana Linux, which is successfully released its continues 5th release and running in several schools. And thats listed in distrowatch and linux distribution time line as well. 15:22:18 In addition to that you can count me in as a volunteer on spot. 15:22:34 okay 15:22:36 hanthana, how about cost, whats the latest cost pls ? 15:23:48 200USD for travel but i recommend to buy my ticket by any of you as we have to pay extra amount since the USD Vs LKR rate is highly increasing 15:24:11 KageSenshi, i would like to share the room 15:24:11 ok 15:24:17 thanks 15:24:38 maktrix, still there ? 15:24:44 yeap 15:25:08 maktrix, just briefly describe 15:25:18 I've asked 600 for travel and 200 for accomodation 15:25:34 I'll be doing 2 sessins jointly with rtnpro 15:25:38 maktrix, is that the cheapest around? 15:25:45 I'm okay with partial subsidy 15:25:58 no AirAsia flight to and from my country 15:26:05 ok 15:26:24 thanks :) 15:26:29 praveenkumar, you there? 15:26:29 rbergeron: do you want me to preach something about my contributions? 15:27:13 I want rbergeron or KageSenshi to buy my tickets, reimbursment is pain for me. Still waiting for Pune Reimbursment 15:28:10 ok 15:28:33 maktrix, can i expect some more sessions from you later? :) 15:28:46 yes, ofcourse 15:28:52 if you allow me to do so. 15:29:13 as I've learnt from you; how to arrange on on spot 15:29:14 :) 15:29:18 ok :) 15:29:38 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mak 15:29:46 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseParty_F9_Dhaka 15:29:53 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-February/013719.html 15:30:00 http://maktrix.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/asian-university-dhaka-fedora-12-release-party/ 15:30:05 http://maktrix.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/fedora-14-talk-and-media-distribution/ 15:30:41 planning: http://www.facebook.com/events/354354537938854/ 15:30:47 cool :) 15:30:50 * callkalpa I'm back 15:31:02 maktrix, any more info you would like to add? 15:31:14 and I'm the Bengali l10n project lead on Transifex 15:31:26 have been doing localization for several years for Redhat and Fedora 15:31:35 that's all 15:31:39 ok thanks 15:32:05 ***it's dinner time, want to eat 15:32:19 * KageSenshi checks who else are here 15:32:27 praveenkumar, you there? 15:32:32 KageSenshi: hi :) 15:33:11 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/286 15:33:17 #undo 15:33:17 Removing item from minutes: 15:33:25 #link praveenkumar request: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/286 15:33:29 hi praveenkumar 15:33:35 hello KageSenshi 15:33:51 could you briefly describe what you wish to contribute and achieve when in fudconkl ? 15:34:20 I am contributing to fedora since 2009 as a packager, we orginized many fedora event in our college. 15:34:27 I am planning to give a talk on RPM packaging for beginner and also a hack-fest for rpm packaging so that participant can get a exposure on rpm. 15:34:39 Currently I am maintaing couple of packages and also working on rename django packages as per guideline, working on fedora tour along with FranciscoD 15:35:02 Also have to meet/conversation with fedora-contributors and fedora-Ambassadors and get to know more about feodora community. 15:35:15 Attend some interesting talks. 15:35:17 eof 15:35:20 ok 15:35:33 * rtnpro wonders if we missed https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/284 15:35:57 i can see you submitted 2 talks there :) .. you think there can be possibility of more sessions coming from you? 15:36:14 rtnpro, sorry, apparently yes, we'll go to you and callkalpa afterwards :) 15:36:24 KageSenshi, :) 15:36:26 rtnpro: is my co-speaker 15:36:27 that's fine no prob 15:37:21 praveenkumar, i can see you submitted 2 talks there :) .. you think there can be possibility of more sessions coming from you? 15:37:22 KageSenshi: well let me think upon it, will update about that 15:37:26 praveenkumar, ok 15:37:32 next person i guess :) 15:37:54 callkalpa, 15:37:59 hi 15:38:09 yeah I will be short and sweet :-) 15:38:26 #link callkalpa request: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/283 15:38:26 I am an ambassador for fedora and a packager 15:39:00 I have contributed in localizing many projects including gnome, kde, suage openoffice, mozilla etc 15:39:14 This is going to be my first fudcon experince 15:39:34 I am doing a joint talk with hanthana on "Fedora in your school" 15:39:58 a discussion on "Friends" - with the collaboration of hanthana 15:40:22 Apart from that sharing my experience in packaging sugar activities for fedora 15:40:37 and about SoaS - sugar on a stick 15:40:50 callkalpa, ok 15:41:08 Meeting other fedora contributors in person is another objective 15:41:16 callkalpa, whats the current flight prices for you at the moment ? 15:41:19 I would like to share room 15:41:38 it's 200USD, i guess 15:41:46 airasia.com is not loading for me :-( 15:41:53 ok 15:42:05 KageSenshi, for all of us udinnet , myself and callkalpa have the same rate ;-) 15:42:09 but since USD value varies for us a lot these days, I would like someone else to buy me the ticket 15:42:21 got it 15:42:51 ok 15:42:52 I would love to talk more on Sugar and SoaS specially 15:42:53 eof 15:43:03 callkalpa, cool :) 15:43:17 rtnpro, you're next :) 15:43:26 Hi all 15:43:47 #link rtnpro request https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/284 15:43:59 I am Ratnadeep Debnath and I contribute to Fedora as an Ambassador, Packager and Developer 15:44:27 I also contribute to Askbot, Dorrie, Ankur Bangla and Transifex 15:44:40 well, I also happen to work at Transifex 15:45:46 I and maktrix are going to take sessions on "l10n and its importance, challenges, and how Fedora does it using Transifex the cool way" 15:46:16 ok 15:46:41 rtnpro, usd500 is the current flight cost? 15:46:49 also, we'll conduct a hackfest on l10n and i18n mainly to show people how to i18n theirs software and how to crowdsource l10n of their software 15:47:04