18:03:02 <tatica> #startmeeting
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18:03:17 <tatica> #topic FUDcon LATAM Changes - planning meeting
18:03:28 <tatica> hello, so, the normal roll call
18:03:36 * rbergeron is here
18:03:37 <tatica> .fas tatica
18:03:38 <zodbot> tatica: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com>
18:04:08 * yn1v is here with a big lag
18:04:19 <jsmith> .fas jsmith.fedora
18:04:20 <zodbot> jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' <jsmith.fedora@gmail.com>
18:04:37 <tatica> oka
18:04:56 <tatica> so. Thx to all of you for be here
18:05:12 <tatica> I hope you guys have read the mail that was send yesterday morning
18:05:15 * rbergeron nods
18:05:36 <rbergeron> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2012-May/003642.html
18:05:36 * jsmith has too
18:05:37 <tatica> just in chase
18:05:40 <tatica> exactly :D
18:05:45 <tatica> rbergeron, faster than me :D
18:05:55 <rbergeron> you're typing, i'm pasting. teamwork, yo
18:06:00 <tatica> lol!
18:06:49 <tatica> so, there are some suggested changes for FUDcon LATAM, due to some difficulties we have had
18:07:20 <tatica> there are 2 main changes (just to recapitulate)
18:07:37 <tatica> 1.- Location - move from Margarita Island to Valencia
18:07:42 <tatica> * Better prices
18:07:47 <tatica> * More attendance
18:08:04 <tatica> * Better logistics since the team is actually in this town (and the rest is only 2 hours away)
18:08:25 <tatica> 2.- Date - Push to August 23-24-25 (and a beach FUDpub on 26)
18:08:58 <tatica> * More sponsors (so Fedora budget might be better used to bring more people) (they don't want to sponsor an event that is so far from their offices)
18:09:18 <tatica> Technically, that's the resume of the mail, and the changes I would like to push
18:09:44 <tatica> the Valencia team is right now at an event, so the 5 guys that are handling the hotels and universities will be available starting next monday
18:09:52 <tatica> eof from my side
18:10:39 * rbergeron wonders if anyone has asked any questions at all on the latam mailing lists or elsehwere - i didn't seemuch response to your on-list email
18:10:55 <jsmith> tatica: Can you speak to how hard or easy Valencia is going to be to get to, for both international and Venezuelan travelers?
18:11:05 <tatica> there were 2 members of the Fedora Venezuela community who were ok with the changes
18:11:15 * jsmith is assuming that it should be easy for Venezuelans to get to (perhaps easier than Margarita?)
18:11:21 <tatica> besides that, from the International community I haven't received much feedback
18:11:22 <tatica> yes
18:11:30 <tatica> we are handling several options for transportations
18:11:45 <tatica> 1.- For international travelers, there are direct flights from Miami (and some other mayor cities)
18:11:55 <yn1v> !
18:12:05 <tatica> in case they need to arrive to Maiquetía (Caracas) I will drive them myself since is only 2 hours in car
18:12:27 <tatica> 2.- For local travelers, the city is in the middle of Venezuela, so even if you're realy far away, it will only take 6 hours to get
18:12:40 <tatica> already 3 colleges will send buses with people for free
18:12:41 <tatica> eof
18:12:45 <tatica> yn1v, go!
18:13:09 <yn1v> I searched for flights to valencia, mostly direct flight
18:13:17 <yn1v> no need to go to caracas
18:13:21 <yn1v> eof
18:13:29 <tatica> perfect
18:13:43 <tatica> yn1v, would you be able to provide a bit of help on wiki adding prices to flights?
18:13:54 <tatica> or just send me that info through mail so I can add it tomorrow?
18:14:10 <yn1v> sure, over the weekend, I wil do that
18:14:21 <tatica> perfect! super apreciated :D
18:14:25 <yn1v> directly on the wiki
18:14:44 <rbergeron> :)
18:14:47 <tatica> #action yn1v will add flight prices to wiki setting the new location for FUDcon (Valencia, Venezuela)
18:15:03 <tatica> there are 26 colleges in the city, so I'm hoping that also helps with attendance
18:15:17 <tatica> and colleges from the nearest 5 states will be able to attend too
18:15:21 <rbergeron> it seems like everyone is pretty amenable to the changes. i don't think we have many folks who have purchased airfare or anything, outside of dennis
18:15:33 <tatica> yeap
18:15:42 <tatica> I was contact yesterday by a couple of Brazilian guys
18:15:54 <tatica> they were happy wth the changes because will fit their holidays
18:16:04 <tatica> they couldn't make it on June, but they will on August
18:16:44 <rbergeron> cool. that's very good!
18:17:12 <tatica> there is a member of the organization, from the Island
18:17:30 <tatica> the guy was not even from Fedora (he's a new user) and he's a Fedora user now
18:18:29 <tatica> he is interested on have a workshop with the local governament and see if there is a chance to push a special field at schools (for kids)
18:18:34 <tatica> just like maths, language or whatever
18:18:38 <tatica> but based on technology
18:18:48 <tatica> I think is a crazy idea that will be nice to develop.
18:18:50 <rbergeron> So it seems to me that there isn't anyone really saying "no" - assuming this is the course we take, do we want to contact the few people who did sign up on the wiki page to let them know?
18:19:08 <tatica> sure, I can send emails just after the meeting
18:19:24 <jsmith> Makes sense to me
18:19:34 * jsmith hasn't heard any negative comments about the proposed changes
18:19:41 <rbergeron> okay. I just hope that we have let this mail be out long enough for anyone to have seen it - mostly so we know we aren't hitting any major conflicts, etc.
18:19:51 <tatica> #action send mails to everyone who has sing up at wiki with changes and, send trac link (sponsorship) to those who request it
18:20:03 <rbergeron> but i expect people would have said so by now, even if there are som epeople who don't read lists till the weekend
18:20:33 <yn1v> ?
18:20:37 <tatica> yn1v, go
18:21:11 <yn1v> Just wonder how this fits in the general schedule on fedora events, will collide with other events?
18:21:41 <tatica> noup. I wanted to have it on the last week of August, but tht's the date of LinuxCon
18:21:43 <rbergeron> It shouldn't collide, as far as I can see.
18:21:50 <tatica> even so, I will give it a second look just in case
18:21:50 <rbergeron> Linuxcon as tatica explained is the last week of august
18:21:53 * jsmith doesn't know of any conflicts
18:22:03 <yn1v> Great ! :D
18:22:55 <rbergeron> I personally will have to go on the 26th straight there and skip the beach thing
18:23:03 <rbergeron> since we have other events monday and tuesday prior to linuxcon
18:23:12 <rbergeron> but we should be fine aside from that.
18:23:21 <tatica> rbergeron, :(
18:23:23 <rbergeron> I don't think there are any major latam foss events schedule then either
18:23:48 <tatica> noup, everything will hapen on June-July
18:24:38 <rbergeron> tatica: i know. though i have to admit i am also not a big beach person either ;)
18:24:54 * tatica already knew that :P
18:24:55 <rbergeron> but i expect it's going to take me the better part of 1 - 1.5 days to get to sandy eggo from venezuela
18:25:10 <tatica> rbergeron, but you like poker... and I will make that happen for you :P
18:25:14 <rbergeron> LOL
18:26:39 <rbergeron> we shall see. i'm obligated to a few different things at linuxcon and the events that are colocated and they ahve stupidly (or brilliantly) added in multiple things for that entire week
18:27:13 <rbergeron> but fudcon absolutely does not revolve around the fpl so let's do what is best for you guys :)
18:28:24 <tatica> thank you :D
18:28:41 <rbergeron> tatica: so i guess we are looking at a few things - #1 being getting a hotel settled
18:28:41 <tatica> I will send weekly updates through mail list 2 days before each meeting
18:28:46 <rbergeron> so we don't run into the same problems
18:28:50 <tatica> yeap
18:28:58 <rbergeron> and we should probably do that as soon as possible - find it, start negotiating or doing whatever we need to do
18:29:11 <tatica> 2 hotels are already being negociating
18:29:29 <tatica> one of the sponsors that decline has his main office at Valencia, so they are willing to help with that again
18:29:31 * tatica breaths
18:30:23 <yn1v> ?
18:30:27 <tatica> yn1v, go
18:30:32 <yn1v> There is a new wiki page?
18:30:46 <yn1v> a link on the minutes will be usefull
18:30:56 <tatica> not yet, but that has to come tonight or tomorrow
18:31:32 <yn1v> please mail me the new wiki page, so I can add the flight prices
18:32:20 <tatica> what can be better? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:LATAM2012 or https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Valencia2012
18:32:32 <rbergeron> ummm
18:32:42 <rbergeron> I think Valencia_2012 would be more... descriptive
18:32:57 <rbergeron> and in keeping with the standards we have had for other fudcons - cityname_Year
18:33:07 <tatica> #Link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Valencia_2012
18:33:09 <rbergeron> Makes it less difficult for people to find, I would think
18:35:23 * tatica already editing that
18:35:35 <yn1v> Valentin and I were talking about a hacking on robotics for Valencia FUDCon. He wants to run workshop on building stuff I want to document and get some one to do packaging of latest software for icaro board
18:36:09 <rbergeron> yn1v: I think that would be excellent
18:36:40 <rbergeron> yn1v: do you guys have the hardware to do that?
18:36:41 <yn1v> :)
18:36:53 <tatica> there is a local company that can provide servers
18:37:03 <tatica> #link http://www.siragon.com/international.html
18:37:15 <yn1v> Valenting has been developing a board for robotics that engage with OLPC
18:38:50 <tatica> there might be some OLPC folks in here, so I can arrange a meeting with them, and the local computers for kids, canaimita
18:38:55 <yn1v> I have been following the development but when I have a doc ready he got a new version of the board. I have already the local OLPC people to do some trials on Nicaragua
18:39:08 <tatica> there might be some international visitors from OLPC, but I still need to arrange that
18:39:12 <rbergeron> yn1v: cool, I et spot would be interested in helping to package that stuff too.
18:39:30 <rbergeron> are you guys talking about it on the robotics list at all?
18:39:56 <rbergeron> not to drag us off course; i guess my point was, maybe we could think about getting some extra hardware/robotics stuff available for FUDCon for poeple to hack on or take home
18:40:12 <tatica> :O
18:40:16 <tatica> +1
18:40:22 <yn1v> the focus has been educational
18:40:49 <yn1v> YES, valentin wanted to take several boards to assamble and give away at fudcom
18:40:52 <tatica> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Valencia_2012
18:40:58 * rbergeron nods
18:41:20 <rbergeron> yn1v: if we need some extra resources to make that happen, just let us know and I will go hunt down the money
18:41:41 <rbergeron> unless a board costs 10 million dollars ;)
18:41:51 <yn1v> Yay!!
18:42:01 <tatica> :O
18:42:25 <yn1v> boards are about $6-8
18:42:38 <jsmith> Yeah, not expensive at all
18:44:04 <yn1v> tatica, put an action to make full documentation of robotic hacking so we got resources on time
18:44:33 <rbergeron> yn1v: and i can get spot to jump in on that too, it's sort of a new fun area for him right now
18:44:40 <tatica> #action yn1v and valentin will make full documentation of robotic hacking so they get resources on time from rbergeron
18:44:42 <tatica> :D
18:45:17 <rbergeron> i am sure he'd be willing to help out with coordinating some of it
18:45:58 <rbergeron> yn1v: might be worth shouting out on the robotics sig list too
18:46:14 <yn1v> yes, I will do it.
18:46:24 <tatica> yn1v, there is a new contributor who's willing to help with documentation on Icaro
18:46:33 <tatica> I will foward you the mail that he's sharing with Valentin right now
18:47:48 <tatica> mail sent :)
18:48:41 <yn1v> thanks
18:49:18 <tatica> ok, so it's 10min until meeting ends
18:49:29 <tatica> any other particular point that yo ufolks have a concern about?
18:49:42 <tatica> any advice, scolding, tip, cheer up?
18:49:44 <rbergeron> not at the moment, mostly just notifyig people that were signed up
18:49:49 <tatica> beer, coffee, sodas?
18:49:50 <rbergeron> cheer up! that goes without saying
18:49:51 <tatica> oki
18:49:51 <rbergeron> beer
18:49:52 <rbergeron> also
18:49:54 <rbergeron> :)
18:49:56 <tatica> lol
18:50:02 <tatica> .moar beer rbergeron
18:50:02 <zodbot> here rbergeron, have some more beer
18:50:39 <tatica> ok. so sending mails to everyone, pushing changes into wiki and fill all the information that it's needed before next friday
18:51:55 <tatica> I think that's it for the moment
18:52:01 <tatica> yn1v, be sire to add yourself to the wiki list pls
18:52:13 <rbergeron> :)
18:52:15 <yn1v> yes
18:52:52 <rbergeron> tatica: thanks for wrangling all of this today!
18:53:05 <tatica> np, thx for the support
18:53:07 <yn1v> I wasn't able to travel un june... but August it totally different !!
18:53:59 <tatica> :D
18:54:03 <jsmith> yn1v: It'll be good to see you again :-)
18:54:22 * tatica will be able to use her own car and won't need to rent one :D
18:54:52 <yn1v> jsmith, will be nice to see each other :)
18:55:15 <tatica> ok, so I will end the meeting and send reminders to everyone with the updates
18:55:18 <jsmith> OK folks, sorry to cut out early, but I need some lunch...
18:55:21 <tatica> thx everyone!
18:55:28 <tatica> #endmeeting