18:01:02 #startmeeting FUDCon Lawrence subsidy meeting #3 18:01:02 Meeting started Fri Dec 21 18:01:02 2012 UTC. The chair is ianweller. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:01:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:01:26 tickets: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/query?component=FUDCon+Lawrence+2013&order=status&group=milestone&col=id&col=summary&col=component&col=type&col=status&col=priority&col=milestone 18:01:50 and i'm going to quickly look at the budget spreadsheet 18:01:56 ianweller: hi 18:01:59 * inode0 hopes rbergeron peeks in to comment on the RHT folks 18:02:02 yes, for about another 30m 18:02:07 * inode0 gets his wish 18:02:10 I'm here 18:02:26 shall we start with them while rbergeron is in the house then? 18:02:28 suehle: i'm going to make the budget spreadsheet publicly viewable 18:02:30 if it isn't already 18:02:35 inode0: good thinkin' 18:02:37 I was here all along, just not looking at IRC of course 18:02:46 I'm not certain whether it is, so go ahead 18:02:58 well, i don't know that i have anything to add really to the rht folks discussion, but go ahead 18:03:06 I think I said in the email we were going to do this in #fedora-meeting-1, so we should probably at least note there that we're over here. 18:03:27 my question is whether you are willing/able to fund any/all of them from discretionary budget I guess 18:03:50 well, i would if i hadn't been informed 2 days ago that i have 0 discretionary budget suddenly for this quarter 18:03:58 which i am absolutely furious about 18:04:01 budget (i think): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Amg7gpK9wXxFdHJlM0ZwN2h1RUZkTUJOMFdiUENrcFE#gid=0 18:04:49 rbergeron: wat. 18:05:07 i am willing ot look at a few of them and basically see if i can juggle them in such a way that i can just book them into discretionary in the new year 18:05:25 which i think i can do (though it will likely piss someone off, but i don't really care about pissing people off at this point) 18:05:52 the spreadsheet claims we have just over $3K left 18:06:04 i'd like to leave about $500 if we can as "oh shit" money 18:06:06 afaik that's accurate, unless there's something we've forgotten 18:06:11 yeah that too :) 18:06:20 so we have $2500 to divy out this meeting 18:06:52 rbergeron, are there any flights you've booked for people that aren't noted in their subsidy requests, or can I go on a booking spress after this meeting? 18:06:56 is there some FADNA budget remaining as well? 18:07:07 at least one falls into that category 18:07:23 according to the top of that spreadsheet i think so 18:07:43 looks like it 18:07:48 suehle: they should all be noted. i think the only one not purchased is inode0 unles he's booked his own - and anything that we approve today, i suppose 18:07:53 it says budget $4000, estimated used $1500 18:08:03 so i think we're fine on the FAD 18:08:30 shasll we get on to tickets 18:08:32 shall* 18:08:41 and is there any specific order anybody wants 18:08:44 * inode0 hasn't but will try soon 18:08:56 We had been going in order they were requested 18:08:59 oh, i need kiara's ticket purchased, i think 18:09:07 We should go to ones we skipped or asked for more info 18:09:18 alright we'll go in order by ticket number then 18:09:37 #topic 378: Funding request for Kévin Raymond (shaiton) https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/378 18:09:50 what are the red hat people tickets? i think jiri's i can fit in, and i hae a request for mitr for discretionary that i think i can get tim to cover out of other budget 18:09:56 I have a hard time allocating half to the first ticket without considering the rest :) 18:10:18 inode0: i think i agree :) 18:10:36 oh, FYI: 18:10:44 I got a mail from gent thaci this morning saying he can't go after all 18:10:58 good because I was about to say he doesn't have a ticket yet :) 18:11:00 rbergeron: 405, 407?, 409 18:11:05 did we already purchase his flight? 18:11:09 Luis Bazan's flight isn't purchased, but it looks like he needs an invitation letter. 18:11:11 * inode0 can't always tell who is RHT and who isn't though 18:11:13 s/ticket/flight 18:11:14 ianweller: no 18:11:59 * inode0 proposes knocking off #412 since all but the hotel likely can come from FADNA and that one seems easy 18:11:59 itamarjp doesn't have a flight yet 18:12:19 was itamarjp's approved? 18:12:22 okay so we'll come back to shaiton at the end of this meeting? 18:12:25 it's listed as approved 18:12:32 since it's 1/3 of our budget for today 18:12:34 405: antonio salles already had a discretionary trip to fudcon this year 18:13:06 And Sarah White needs a flight 18:13:10 to a different fudcon you mean? 18:13:17 suehle: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/384 18:13:21 But you requested her info. So I think that's all of them 18:13:50 inode0: yes, to south america. i am willing to help out but i'm not going to subsidize the universe in lieu of a manager doing so. 18:14:03 suehle: i don't see in 384 where itamar's was approved? 18:14:30 The milestone is approved. I'll try to find the minutes that it happened in 18:14:34 itamar didn't request anything beyond a letter so far as I know 18:14:46 ^^good point actually 18:14:57 title still says 'funding request' 18:14:59 I was just scrolling down the approved ones looking for flights booked, my fault 18:15:08 I'll make sure he has an invitation letter. 18:15:36 * rbergeron doesn't even see his milestone being approved - it just says requested? not granted 18:16:09 * inode0 is +1 to 407 regardless, it is a small request 18:16:14 Eff. I can't read today. I should just quit. 18:16:37 Can still write an invitation letter if he doesn't need money. 18:16:44 i think i can scrounge up $180 for 307, that's not an issue, he's already booking with jdulaney anyway. and i'll dig up money for jiri - ruth, i can buy that ticket so it's on me if anyone has a shit fit. 18:17:12 #topic 18:17:37 (out of discretionary/internal peeps funding money) 18:17:38 i'm +1 to 407 as well 18:17:49 so I see only 4 left for us now :) 18:17:51 And I actually already wrote Itamar's invitation letter. All is well as soon as I learn to read. 18:17:54 rbergeron: so 409 won't come out of fudcon budget 18:17:59 378, 380, 405, 412 18:18:15 suehle: i hope they can get a visa in time :/ 18:18:35 ianweller: correct 18:18:40 I wrote it a long time ago, which was why I had to look it up to even remember if I had. 18:18:45 okay i'm going off of inode0's list 18:18:47 ianweller: 407 would be easier to just have come out of fudcon budget for math's / detail's sake 18:19:11 let's approve it from this budget, no one objects I don't believe 18:19:12 so we approve 407 today? 18:19:15 ok 18:19:16 +1 18:19:22 #agreed approve 407 18:19:52 and that's in the budget spreadsheet 18:20:10 looking for the total for 378/380/412 18:20:27 what did we determine half a hotel was 18:20:28 180? 18:20:53 hotel room* 18:21:43 I assum ehe's willing to share a hotel room? and this one could come out of the fadna budget really (412) 18:21:52 about $2700 for those three 18:22:05 yeah, his hotel bill there is double what we can approve 18:22:23 and that won't be a problem 18:22:30 so make it about $2500 for those three :) 18:22:39 inode0: did you hear we have a lovely bus transportation sponsor? 18:22:45 no 18:22:57 and airport shuttle sponsor 18:23:01 oh, nice 18:23:03 or some combination thereof ;) 18:23:32 so we're still within budget to just mass approve everybody 18:23:52 you can thank ke4qqq and zonker when you see them ;) 18:23:55 I think we still have 405 18:24:42 inode0: that's a rht employee - honestly, ther ae are already people coming to show all of those things anyway that he is proposing 18:24:47 maybe not cloudforms 18:24:49 though 18:24:51 well, i won't go there 18:24:51 ;) 18:25:15 * inode0 moves we approve 378, 380, and 412 now 18:25:43 what's the estimated total for each one? 18:26:00 (i'm +1, just want to be able to put it all in the spreadsheet) 18:26:05 380 I'm not sure is well thought out - no one else seems to know about any FAS goings on but it isn't overly expensive 18:27:09 He, however, does not yet have a visa. 18:27:19 Says it only takes 15 days though 18:27:27 i'm +1 to 380 18:27:46 if there is some work done on FAS during FUDCon thanks to him that's a huge boon 18:28:23 agreed 18:28:57 i'm +1 to 378 and 412 as well 18:29:26 shaiton is really super important to our websites getting updated every release and if his goal is to make it so he's not doing all the work each release then that's great ;) 18:29:39 400 is for some reason listed under Milestone Security FAD, but we asked for more info in the first subsidy meeting, and there's been no reply yet 18:30:26 ugh 18:30:26 i'm willing to approve dan's but not for his upgraded seats 18:30:38 some of his falls under fadnna 18:30:39 fadna* 18:30:40 and if he fills out the stuff requestedd 18:30:43 also +1 rbergeron 18:30:43 yes 18:31:01 so we need to figure out the price diff if we can 18:31:17 did we agree on 380 18:31:26 so i can see how much we have left 18:31:28 We'll have to have receipts, so we'll just do the price difference from that. 18:31:43 It's in the ticket. 18:32:11 yes to 380, 378,412, at least i am. and 400 pending actual completion of info 18:32:33 I think the flight on 400 is 222 before the upgrades 18:32:59 * rbergeron has to jet to the school holiday thing and will be back shortly :\ sorry 18:33:01 that is what it looks like to me 18:33:17 and by holiday i mean "white elephant exchange" 18:33:25 i propose we approve 380 378 412 and 400 pending completion 18:33:25 The receipt is weird, but that's my recollection from when he msged me about his flight 18:33:49 +1 18:34:17 ok, pretty good deal 18:34:37 #agreed approve 380, 378, 412, 400 pending completion of ticket 18:34:37 ianweller, can you update the tickets accordingly? 18:34:46 suehle: shore 18:34:52 suehle: if you can update the budget spreadsheet :) 18:35:06 aw man, you got the easy one :) 18:35:36 i think that's all. 18:36:22 thanks everybody 18:36:24 #endmeeting