03:09:11 #startmeeting Fudcon planning Managua 2014 03:09:11 Meeting started Sun Sep 21 03:09:11 2014 UTC. The chair is yn1v. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:09:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 03:09:29 .fas lorddemon 03:09:30 #topic Roll Call 03:09:30 lorddemon: lorddemon 'Gonzalo Nina Mamani' 03:09:34 .fas tonet666p 03:09:36 TonetJallo: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' 03:09:37 .fas yn1v 03:09:38 yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' 03:09:42 fas.blackfile 03:09:46 * lorddemon Bolivia 03:09:46 * yn1v Nicaragua 03:09:49 .fas alyaj2a 03:09:50 alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' 03:09:50 .fas ramilton 03:09:53 .fas blackfile 03:09:53 ramilton: ramilton 'Ramilton Costa Gomes Júnior' 03:09:54 .fas alexove 03:09:57 * alexove = Peru 03:09:59 blackfile: blackfile 'Luis Manuel Segundo' 03:10:02 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 03:10:10 From Panama 03:10:16 * TonetJallo from Perú 03:10:22 * alyaj2a Peru 03:10:37 .fas bernardoha 03:10:39 bernardoha_: bernardoha 'Bernardo C. Hermitaño Atencio' 03:10:45 .fas echevemaster 03:10:46 echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 03:10:49 * echevemaster Venezuela. 03:11:02 #chair echevemaster 03:11:02 Current chairs: echevemaster yn1v 03:11:22 anyone needs/wants chair on the meeting? 03:11:31 Hi there at all 03:11:53 .fas itamarjp 03:11:54 itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' 03:12:38 #topic various information 03:12:54 the local team worked a bit this afternoon 03:13:17 we built the tickets activities in the fudcon planning trac 03:13:18 .fas sophiekovalevsky 03:13:20 kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky '' 03:13:28 Kiara Navarro, Panamá. 03:13:55 so there is plenty of new tickets under "task" category 03:14:32 unfortunatelly those tickets are unassigned yet. 03:14:44 some ticket that needs contribution of not local people? 03:14:45 We need to distribute the load 03:15:00 s/ticket/tickets. 03:15:21 The first thing that came to my mind is video recording 03:15:48 that can be arranged anywhere 03:16:45 mmm there is other thing that I may need help 03:16:59 I'm unable to see those tickets, where are them, what is the tag? 03:17:07 dos anybody knows about trac?? 03:17:19 I know that is fudcon trac 03:17:29 but I'm looking for those tickets. 03:17:42 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning 03:17:52 yn1v, I miss understood the last questions sorry. 03:18:02 type = task 03:18:05 for anyone that not knows what is the trac. 03:18:24 echevemaster, that's okey. 03:18:31 got it 03:19:04 well the thing is that I will like to have a report to easily see the tasks 03:19:30 not sure if better close old tickets or built a custom report 03:19:30 correct, they are not listed in any category. 03:19:51 do you have admin access to that trac? 03:20:07 because if so, you can make a report just now. 03:20:22 category? 03:20:34 custom report = category = tag 03:20:50 _! 03:20:55 they are not listed and it's hard looking for. 03:20:59 kovalevsky: go ahead. 03:21:12 .fas williamjmorenor 03:21:13 wmoreno: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' 03:21:23 I consider add a category or something like that to see the list of the tasks. 03:21:36 anyway, probably that can be solved outside the meeting 03:21:41 So, I agree with echevemaster. 03:21:50 yn1v, I think so. 03:21:56 ok, from me is ok. 03:22:05 next topic? 03:22:33 If you make a custom querry with component Fudcon managua 2014 and type task 03:22:34 #action we will see how to create a tag for tasks in the trac (report) 03:22:41 you will see all tasks 03:22:52 correct, but we don't have admin access for create a new search. 03:23:24 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/508 03:23:29 but that nevermind just now. it's a cosmeting thing. 03:23:36 there is the ticket for video recording 03:24:00 ok, the last meeting, some people said that they have some cameras for the event. 03:24:07 danielbruno was one of them 03:24:16 I think that you, yn1v have another. 03:24:29 what another people can help with that? 03:24:51 for now, please add the people that can use their own cameras there. 03:25:00 I will look to distribute the design task among local team members, so the can outreach for further help 03:25:06 echevemaster, what about the audio of the video? 03:25:29 the video it's important, but one of the problem could be the audio of the recording 03:25:30 we plan to use bluetooth hadsfree as mike 03:25:32 kovalevsky: that audio can be treated with digital applications� 03:26:07 so we have it wireless directly recorded with the video 03:26:15 yn1v, ok. 03:26:19 ok. that it's great. 03:26:46 Hi alexlove (pure love) 03:26:57 At the moment we have no new sponsors given us new help 03:27:04 echevemaster, ok. I was wondering about the audio recording, it's really important, having a good video quality a a good sound quality at least to identify the words 03:27:12 lechevemaster... pura leche XD 03:27:14 .fas villadalmine 03:27:17 Buenass 03:27:17 el-viola16: villadalmine 'Rino Rondan' 03:27:18 Sorry 03:27:25 Layesoy rino 03:27:26 kovalevsky: agreed to. 03:27:39 Hi rino, 03:27:57 hi rino 03:27:58 el-viola16: o/ 03:28:01 but one of the leads is a computer selling business that may provide us with web cams... let's hope for it 03:28:22 :-) 03:28:56 so, any question about organization ? 03:29:02 yn1v: these webcams record with a acceptable resolution? 03:29:09 1080px 03:29:31 that's wonderfull 03:29:38 that's we are looking for 03:29:48 wonderful*, we're gonna have videos with 1080px =) 03:30:02 more questions? 03:30:17 * echevemaster shut up himself :) 03:30:25 this cams, save direct to HD 03:30:28 ? 03:30:29 * TonetJallo only knows 720p Y_Y 03:30:36 respecting to this topic yes ytn 03:30:39 yn1v, no more questions 03:30:41 lorddemon: yes.. 03:30:46 at least, for me 03:30:50 ynlv The internet speed in environments ... workshop audience? 03:30:55 1080px = HD lorddemon 03:31:03 lorddemon, I have to try out 03:31:06 good question, bernardoha_ 03:31:18 hard disk 03:31:21 :) 03:31:28 or another place 03:31:32 that's what the label said, but I haven really tested 03:32:22 can some one fetch the ticket 508 and make a comment about doing testing ASAP 03:32:42 so we can verify the quality of the recording 03:32:57 yn1v: it's contracted the internet connection? 03:33:28 we only have the university connection, which is not good 03:33:46 how speed is it? 03:33:52 We have expanded out calls to other three ISP 03:34:16 the ISP os the university hasn't reply 03:34:45 we can make there a proxy over the existent. 03:34:47 TonetJallo, I don't know the current bandwidth of the university, but we have a workshop and it is slow 03:34:48 I think. 03:35:28 we need a ticket about internet connection to keep a reminder 03:35:32 and balancing the connection between the ISP's 03:35:47 * echevemaster taking care of that. 03:35:53 thanks echevemaster 03:35:59 cool 03:36:43 can any one create a ticket called Internet with type task 03:37:15 and write about checking to have internet connection 03:37:40 Any way, we have a meeting at the university on Tuesday 03:37:46 echevemaster, are you going to created the ticket? 03:38:07 #topic hotel sponsorship 03:38:35 I want to discuss about hotel sponsorship so we all are clear about it 03:39:16 I am under the assuption that we are covering 4 days of hotel for person 03:39:18 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/516 03:39:34 those staying longer have to pay the extra days. 03:40:08 but I want to open the issue, to see if we need to consider otherwise, or review in case by case basis 03:40:10 thanks echevemaster 03:40:16 kovalevsky: :) 03:40:32 so opinions? 03:40:44 what do you mean with case basis? 03:40:58 case by persons kovalevsky 03:41:13 treat the cases according to the people 03:41:21 ah ok. good. 03:41:23 special cases, in case you need to stay more than 4 days. 03:41:47 because that will reflect on the budget 03:42:25 I just realized that I was working under one assuption, and better clear that out 03:43:01 so, any opinion how should be done? 03:43:10 a.- 4 days 03:43:21 b.- accoding to travel schedule 03:43:43 c.- review case by case, to go either 4 day or flight schedule 03:43:56 according to the travel schedule 03:44:30 or c 03:44:41 I think that is the better choices for all people. 03:45:12 echevemaster: +1 03:45:12 I think that maybe the c option could be a good idea. Depending of the case. 03:45:12 rest of the people. what do you say? 03:45:27 ok, quickly 03:45:36 i vote for c 03:45:37 b votes? 03:45:40 Some people could pay the additional days at the hotel, but others could not too. 03:45:40 c votes? 03:45:49 +1 for c 03:46:12 +1 for c too 03:46:16 I think: depending of the case. c option. 03:46:17 Gatos 03:46:26 3 persons until now-. 03:46:32 el-viola16: what is your vote? 03:46:41 +1 c 03:46:58 what is your vote, yn1v ? 03:47:17 I will go for a 03:47:24 +1 a 03:47:41 +1 c 03:47:47 but I open the issue for knowing and reaching an agreement 03:48:36 anyone else? 03:48:36 okey we have more people going for C 03:48:42 This is the pencil 03:48:42 C +1 03:49:25 #action yn1v will go to review tickets and update budget accordingly 03:49:41 #agreed (+6,0,0) Option C review case by case, to go either 4 day or flight schedule 03:50:10 #info people that has changed flight schedule please update your ticket 03:50:26 folks, remember that this affect the budget too 03:50:30 Sorry i have bad signal 03:50:31 so we can review budget with that 03:51:01 I think sponsoring for 1 day before + 1 day after event is enough 03:51:10 itamarjp, +1 03:51:16 so, only if is strict needed 03:51:36 extra days means two things... 03:51:40 that was my initial thinking, 3 day event, 4 night hotel 03:51:41 you lose your flight.. 03:51:46 or... 03:52:01 another problem 03:52:20 the hotel counts night, nor days 03:52:32 *not 03:52:48 so, you get the day previous the event to check in 03:53:02 you get out the day after the event 03:53:10 that is four nights 03:53:43 #info the hotel counts nights, not days. the hotel is four nights. 03:53:48 let's move on 03:53:58 ok... 03:54:19 people please update flight schedule if needed and we are going back to that later 03:54:30 next topic 03:54:44 then I mean, 1 night before event + one night after event. 03:54:51 #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket 483 03:55:01 #undo 03:55:01 Removing item from minutes: 03:55:12 #topic ticket 483 03:55:25 yn1v, the ticket it's wrong 03:55:36 https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/483 03:55:45 kovalevsky: it is solved 03:55:56 okey itamar, I will count 5 nights and reflect that on budget 03:56:06 and see which cases require longer 03:56:18 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/483 03:56:55 this for villadalmine 03:57:16 He is not here, but I email him back and forth 03:57:20 hablando del rey de roma 03:57:21 jaj 03:57:29 villaldalmine, ping 03:57:42 We are discussing your funding request. 03:57:44 hey, villaldalmine we were about to talk about your ticket 03:57:50 villaldalmine: is at one party via 3g 03:57:52 yn1v do you have a spreadsheet with all tickets ? 03:58:03 yes ... 03:58:22 BUDGET LINK 03:58:31 #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WPmiEbUMGE9hqZ52i_tvPaQN4BaAwTm_x0uk2WjARJM/edit?usp=sharing 03:59:14 villaldalmine: are you there or is losing the connection? 03:59:20 villaldalmine, told me that his ticket will be lower, that will be around 1300 03:59:48 that is more or less the same amount of valentin. 04:00:22 1326.03 USD so far. 04:00:27 does anybody have questions or comments? 04:00:49 valentin is 1200 USD 04:00:50 Back... 04:01:01 Bad singnal of 3g 04:01:10 AndChat-: is villaldalmine 04:01:14 .fas villadLmine 04:01:15 AndChat-: 'villadLmine' Not Found! 04:01:29 .fas villaldamine 04:01:29 echevemaster: 'villaldamine' Not Found! 04:01:29 .fas villadalmine 04:01:33 AndChat-: villadalmine 'Rino Rondan' 04:01:49 Sorry for the interrumptions 04:01:57 ok, comments? 04:01:59 votes? 04:02:08 or something? :) 04:02:10 has everybody look at the ticket? 04:02:15 Who is the ticket 04:02:21 * wmoreno si 04:02:21 I thinks that talks he proposed rocks 04:02:34 your ticket AndChat 04:02:38 rino: 04:02:40 Wowowowo 04:03:08 yes, rino have a great knowledge about virt and cloud.. 04:03:19 so, if there is comments or questions, let's vote 04:03:21 so, will be very good have him there. 04:03:41 +1 from me 04:03:43 vote for rino / villadalmine / andchat 04:03:43 this is a big +1 for me, he is proposing very nice talks 04:03:46 +1 04:04:03 =) 04:04:03 But one fly for three nick... :-) 04:04:22 * wmoreno 3,0,0 04:04:22 +1 04:04:38 rino, right we have a three for one deal (= 04:04:42 from me +1 for rino 04:04:56 #agreed (+5,0,0) rino is sponsored for going to Fudcon 04:06:23 rino, we are sponsoring 5 nights 04:06:37 Good for me 04:06:41 can you cover the extra nights if needed? 04:07:01 No problem i can cover extra time 04:07:08 great 04:07:09 great! 04:07:22 +1 04:07:33 Picada 04:07:33 we are over time... 04:07:34 Asada 04:07:40 And folklore 04:07:45 rino: hahaha 04:07:53 yn1v: other ticket? 04:08:15 we have about $2K 04:08:33 and that is enought for what ticket??? 04:08:39 enough* 04:09:09 #topic ticket 484 04:09:20 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/484 04:09:32 tickets belong to tuanta 04:09:50 pros is is talking about fedora.next 04:10:19 con he is above the average ticket, and the other topics are already covered 04:11:32 I think that we have to respect the average ticket 04:11:44 pro he is from a server working group 04:12:02 do we really need for some outside latam to talk about fedora.netx? 04:12:11 con he does not speak spanish, meaning that his only talk will need translation 04:12:12 *someone 04:13:01 who can take the topic? 04:13:21 Fedora.next? 04:13:38 he is from another part of the world, too far, doesn't speak spanish 04:14:02 I think that we are above to average.. would be great if he can be there... but for now from me -1 04:14:32 yes, does anybody can take over fedora.next ? 04:14:43 if it is needed, some of us we can talk about fedora.next 04:14:45 I can. 04:14:49 I can take over Fedora Next 04:15:01 wmoreno: we will do both., 04:15:04 agreed? 04:15:12 agreed 04:15:16 :) 04:15:16 ok 04:15:36 any more comments ? 04:15:49 beyon itamarjp echevemaster wmoreno ?? 04:15:55 #info wmoreno and echevemaster will take care of fedora.next. 04:16:00 do I am the only one that thinks that we need to vote the tickets of people arround latam first ? 04:16:03 vote please. 04:16:33 +1 04:16:39 itamarjp: what people of latam is remaining 04:16:40 ? 04:17:01 echevemaster look in spreadsheet 04:17:18 -1 04:17:33 but... the list is in order, all people of latam has been selected according to the list. so. we have to respect that order with the other people too. 04:17:37 TonetJallo, y bernardoha_ los demas entraron tardes 04:17:49 ticket 488 is for TonetJallo 04:18:05 :( 04:18:10 ticket 488 is for lorddemon 04:18:34 it's true, lorddemon is'nt late 04:18:36 sorry my mistake 04:18:43 ticket 488 is for bernardoha 04:18:52 ok vote guys 04:18:54 TonetJallo, y lorddemon 04:19:06 yes, we are voting for tuanta 04:19:16 echevemaster, and itamarjp are -1 rino is -1 04:19:30 rino voted +1 04:19:33 sorry rino is +1 04:19:33 rino said +1 04:19:35 -1 04:19:37 i vote 0 for tuanta 04:19:46 +1 for eche and wm 04:20:04 rino what is your vote. 04:20:07 ? 04:20:11 for tuanta.. 04:20:22 -1 04:20:25 if is only for fedora.next is a -1 for me, to much expensive 04:20:44 more votes for tuanta please 04:21:32 0 for tuanta 04:21:48 lorddemon: that is not a vote 04:21:56 please vote 1 or -1 04:22:01 TonetJallo: too 04:22:10 there are 4 votes -1 and 2 votes 0 04:22:15 0 = means either way 04:22:32 sorry 04:22:34 yn1v: yes 04:22:36 I lost. 04:22:42 I lost my connection :S 04:23:08 kovalevsky, we are voting for ticket 484 is for tuanta 04:23:11 kovalevsky, we are talking about tuanta ticket 04:23:17 thanks 04:23:19 -1 04:23:40 #agree ticket 484 not approved 04:23:44 there is five -1 04:23:52 #agreed ticket 484 not approved 04:24:07 ok, another ticker or next week. 04:24:18 I think that we have to arrange all tickets today.. if we can 04:24:30 if we vote for TonetJallo and lorddemon 04:24:32 ???? 04:24:44 they are latam from latam 04:24:50 no, no, I want bill gates better. 04:25:03 kidding.. 04:25:07 #topic change of order of voting tickets 04:25:23 echevemaster: hahahaha 04:25:25 we started taking tickets in order 04:25:47 +1 for vote latam tickets first 04:26:05 +1 for vote latam tickets first 04:26:07 yn1v, you're the owner of event, you can choose the order of the tickets, 04:26:21 I can continue voting in the order, 04:26:22 how many want to change strict numerical order for latam first 04:26:22 +1 for vote latam ticket first 04:26:25 itamarjp: +1 04:26:41