14:40:37 <herlo> #startmeeting
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16:06:57 <stickster> Need transcription here!
16:10:18 <Cerlyn> Anyone transcribing?
16:10:32 <zodbot> Cerlyn: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
16:11:52 <herlo> #chair Cerlyn
16:11:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: Cerlyn herlo
16:11:53 <Cerlyn> The ambassador program was created to ensure that fedora has a representative at every important conference
16:13:31 <Cerlyn> however a lot of people used the ambassador program as an intro to Fedora as opposed to experience contributors going out
16:14:09 <Cerlyn> {A graph is shown showing the number of ambassadors over time.  It goes up, then drops sharply in 2009 due to an inactive Fedora account purge, then starts going up again}
16:15:29 <Cerlyn> A lightning talk later may be used to figure out what events they want to target having people at
16:15:39 <Guest78155> http://picasaweb.google.com/nushio/FUDCon#5568013337200481058
16:15:44 <Guest78155> http://picasaweb.google.com/nushio/FUDCon#5568013341784090818
16:16:01 <Cerlyn> "South by southwest" is being discussed as a possible event
16:16:25 <Cerlyn> For Latin America they may want to start targeting smaller events
16:17:45 <Cerlyn> The reason south by southwest may potentially be targeted is not because of the art there, but because of the interactive sessions where non-typical Fedora users might be targeted
16:18:00 <Cerlyn> and get a chance to see Fedora
16:18:57 <Cerlyn> {A mind mapping graph is being created onscreen}
16:20:04 <Nushio|IRC> http://picasaweb.google.com/nushio/FUDCon#5568014465246077234
16:20:07 <Cerlyn> One person at a sci-fi convention gave ~50 Fedora CDs out when ~120 people were at a conference, had a table where people could work with computers running Fedora
16:20:39 <nb_> IIRC there was some discussion of some people attending ComicCon but it fell through i think
16:20:40 <nb_> not sure
16:21:10 <nb_> that'd be an example of non-tech events to go to also
16:21:54 <Cerlyn> Larry discusses having events at non-technical events
16:22:09 <Cerlyn> The Felton Linux users group has a table in the Felton farmer's market
16:22:49 <Cerlyn> "Organtic software" {no additives/preservatives} of various distributions, as well as Windows Open source software are handed out
16:23:06 <Nushio|IRC> http://picasaweb.google.com/nushio/FUDCon#5568015233423956354
16:24:02 <Cerlyn> This is an event where people go not to look into software at all, but works out pretty well
16:25:32 <Nushio|IRC> http://picasaweb.google.com/nushio/FUDCon#5568015887664569170
16:26:48 <Nushio|IRC> This is a link to Larry's "Organic Software" blog post: https://larrythefreesoftwareguy.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/organic-linux-at-the-farmers-market/
16:29:44 <Cerlyn> Since a procedure was put into place to mentor people, 90% of people have been rejected, mostly due to not contacting their mentor
16:30:02 <Nushio|IRC> Idea: use a ticketing system to handle new ambassadors
16:30:03 <Cerlyn> (to become ambassadors)
16:30:16 <Nushio|IRC> any mentor in the area would be able to take care of the ticket
16:30:38 <Nushio|IRC> The reason for this is because personal email doesn't allow for other mentors to help out in the new ambassador process
16:32:26 <nb_> Nushio|IRC, isn't that what the fama trac is for?
16:32:30 <nb_> http;//fedorahosted.org/fama?
16:33:22 <Nushio|IRC> nb_: that would work. I'm guessing none of the ambassadors
16:34:06 <CodeBlock> 3/44
16:34:07 <Nushio|IRC> nevermind, It just needs a bit more difussion
16:34:49 <Cerlyn> Maria wants a form for ambassador candidates to fill out with details; others think they should file a trac ticket first, and then ask for details, or maybe custom fields in Trac can be used
16:36:49 <Cerlyn> An action item is created to improve the fama system
16:37:31 <Nushio|IRC> Updated VYM: http://picasaweb.google.com/nushio/FUDCon#5568018946838396066
16:38:50 <Nushio|IRC> Budget Graphics: http://picasaweb.google.com/nushio/FUDCon#5568019306505696498
16:38:58 <Nushio|IRC> http://picasaweb.google.com/nushio/FUDCon#5568019314638464562
16:40:28 <Nushio|IRC> Max hates talking about Budgets, a lot of us do
16:40:41 <Nushio|IRC> there was even a vote against having this talk during the barcamp voting process
16:42:10 <Nushio|IRC> http://picasaweb.google.com/nushio/FUDCon#5568020182472579858
16:42:25 <Nushio|IRC> One of the suggestions was to get credit cards for specific ambassadors
16:42:25 <Cerlyn> There is talk about giving credit cards to a few Fedora contributors by region to help coordinate purchasing
16:42:42 <Nushio|IRC> They'd have to be good scanning receipts and handing them back to Red Hat
16:43:15 <nb> iirc lcafiero has one now
16:44:05 <Nushio|IRC> Another suggestion is to let anyone do an event if its under $Foo budget
16:44:12 <Nushio|IRC> so, less budget blocks
16:46:10 <nb> yeah
16:46:26 <Nushio|IRC> Max: Something we have on our famsco agenda but never actually do is go through each open ticket
16:46:35 <Nushio|IRC> maybe that idea should be pushed into regional meetings
16:48:19 <Nushio|IRC> Alright, douglax  is talking about Mexico now... Having Local Red Hats pay for the material used
16:48:32 <Nushio|IRC> but it's something that's not happening on the different Red Hat offices
16:48:48 <Nushio|IRC> Max says that the local Red Hat offices are just sales offices
16:49:10 <Nushio|IRC> so sales people have little incentive to help out fedora ambassadors
16:51:24 <Nushio|IRC> Tatica mentions distribution of material as one of the blockers
16:51:40 <Nushio|IRC> and perhaps using some sort of a P.O. Box on each country as a possible solution
16:56:13 <Nushio|IRC> Clint suggested using PayPal with Red Hat cards attatched to them
16:58:30 <Nushio|IRC> IMPORTANT: Max says he'll get credit cards for specific ambassadors before march 1st
17:01:39 <Cerlyn> {End session}
17:03:51 <nb> herlo, to start new meetings every session or not?
17:05:44 <Cerlyn> nb: herlo told me to leave it open before; don't know if we want to set topic every often or not though
17:05:52 <nb> oh ok
17:14:47 <nb> anyone transcribing here?
17:27:39 <herlo> I can start
17:27:48 <herlo> selinux-polgengui
17:28:07 <herlo> generates selinux policies that audit2allow creates, but in a gui
17:28:22 <herlo> generates allow rules
17:28:34 <herlo> creates 4 files, te, fe, if file
17:28:44 <herlo> and a shell script to compile/load/set file context
17:28:53 <herlo> there are always required fields
17:29:06 <herlo> haha, wrong room
17:29:10 * herlo quits
21:24:20 <susmit> we are having hackfest on fedora-medical at fudcon-room-2, feel free to join.
22:38:59 <herlo> #endmeeting