14:01:16 <banas> #startmeeting GlitterGallery New contributors social meeting 14:01:16 <zodbot> Meeting started Sun Mar 22 14:01:16 2015 UTC. The chair is banas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:16 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:30 <banas> #topic Introductions 14:01:43 <banas> Let's go in alphabetical order of nickname 14:01:54 <banas> so ahmedsalehfirst :) 14:02:32 <TheMonster> so banas second :) 14:03:39 <banas> ahmedsaleh: around? 14:03:52 <mecyborg> i guess not. 14:04:00 <TheMonster> he has only been idle for 7 mins 14:04:08 <banas> okay, let's skip, and we'll revisit him in the end 14:04:24 <ahmedsaleh> Yes 14:04:26 <ahmedsaleh> im here 14:04:26 <ahmedsaleh> short introduction? 14:04:30 <banas> ah yeh go ahead 14:04:34 <sonalkr132> about time.. 14:04:36 <banas> up to you ;-) 14:04:48 <ahmedsaleh> okay 14:05:15 <ahmedsaleh> Im Ahmed Saleh 14:05:29 <ahmedsaleh> I study cs at the German Univesity in Cairo 14:05:32 <ahmedsaleh> Egypt 14:05:42 <ahmedsaleh> 3rd yead :3 14:06:20 <banas> ah, so we have two egyptians then, cool! 14:06:21 <ahmedsaleh> is that enough ? 14:06:27 <TheMonster> :D 14:06:28 <ahmedsaleh> :D 14:06:43 <banas> yep, cool, thanks! 14:06:53 <sonalkr132> They even use the same smiley 14:07:01 <TheMonster> of course :D 14:07:01 <mecyborg> haha 14:07:16 <ahmedsaleh> LoL 14:07:24 <banas> I'm Sarup (banas) here, have been hanging around GG for a bit, so you can blame me for whatever you don't like :-) 14:07:41 <banas> mecyborg, you next 14:07:44 <sonalkr132> SVGs!!! 14:08:30 <mecyborg> Hi I am Nikunj Gupta. I am final year CSE student at LNMIIT, Jaipur (INDIA) 14:08:32 <TheMonster> what about devyani7 ? 14:09:22 <devyani7> devyani7: hi :) 14:09:58 <sonalkr132> Please tell us about yourself devyani7 14:10:38 <banas> ah devyani7 is around! I thought she was idle. Please introduce yourself :) 14:11:19 <devyani7> Well, I am am Devyani Kota, open-source contributer in my pre-final year, pursuing B-Tech in CS in Durgapur. 14:11:32 <sonalkr132> oops! 14:11:34 <sonalkr132> which college? 14:11:39 <devyani7> banas: yep, wasn't following the logs. Suddenly, the ping :) 14:12:13 <devyani7> oops, sorry; am studying in Dr.B.C.Roy Engineering College. 14:12:26 <sonalkr132> phew.. that was close. 14:12:37 <sonalkr132> I happen to study in the same city ;) 14:12:55 <devyani7> really? which one? 14:13:08 <mecyborg> sonalkr is from NIT Durgapur, right ? 14:13:18 <sonalkr132> Ehh... 14:13:23 <devyani7> ow, cool :) 14:13:37 <devyani7> sonalkr132: sorry, i wasn't here ! :) 14:13:38 <sonalkr132> Didn't know I had a stalker 14:14:05 <mecyborg> hehe 14:14:11 <sonalkr132> Anyway... does mercyborg has to add anything to his intro? 14:14:19 <sonalkr132> Or may be mine. lol 14:14:25 <mecyborg> i already did :P 14:14:36 <mecyborg> Hi I am Nikunj Gupta. I am final year CSE student at LNMIIT, Jaipur (INDIA) 14:14:46 <sonalkr132> So thats all? 14:15:00 <banas> yeh, thanks for your introductions :) 14:15:09 <banas> let's move on to sonalkr132? 14:15:09 <sonalkr132> not fair -_- 14:15:16 <sonalkr132> Yeah 14:15:19 <mecyborg> yaya 14:15:38 <mecyborg> go on sonalkr. its your turn. :) 14:15:47 <sonalkr132> I am Aditya Prakash studying in NIT Durgapur, India. Well.. that much you already know 14:16:05 <mecyborg> thanks to me :P 14:16:09 <sonalkr132> I am in my 2nd year, so everything is new and exciting for me :D 14:16:29 <mecyborg> cool, you are from 2nd year. 14:16:31 <sonalkr132> Like the kid who can't stop laughing at soap bubbles 14:16:56 <sonalkr132> So.. immature and weird. That would be me. 14:16:59 <mecyborg> haha, nice. 14:17:04 <sonalkr132> Next up! 14:17:06 * TheMonster picks the mic 14:17:10 <banas> hehe, cool :) thanks! 14:17:15 <sonalkr132> *claps* 14:17:19 <TheMonster> I'm Ahmed AbouElhamayed 14:17:46 <TheMonster> studying Computer and Systems engineering at the Faculty of Engineering - Ain Shams university 14:18:02 <TheMonster> in the 3rd year 14:18:18 <TheMonster> which is actually my 4th year as we have to take a preparatory year in Engineering here in Egypt :) 14:18:23 <TheMonster> Cairo, Egypt 14:18:38 <ahmedsaleh-andro> so ur older by one year :D 14:18:45 <ahmedsaleh-andro> you are ** 14:18:45 <TheMonster> yup :D 14:18:49 * TheMonster leaves the mic 14:18:53 <sonalkr132> With capital E? In middle of name? Sorry never seen anything like it. 14:19:03 <TheMonster> ok let me explain that 14:19:11 <TheMonster> Abou in Arabic = Father of 14:19:18 <TheMonster> Elhamayed = ... 14:19:20 <TheMonster> .. 14:19:25 <TheMonster> ahmedsaleh-andro: can you translate it :D 14:19:27 <TheMonster> ? 14:19:33 <sonalkr132> I wish 14:19:41 <TheMonster> Anyways in Arabic that is one word 14:19:51 <TheMonster> Elhamayed is close to Thanks 14:20:00 <TheMonster> but I don't know how to translate it literally :D 14:20:08 <banas> lol, cool 14:20:14 <sonalkr132> Things to do before I die: Meet someone who has a capital letter in middle of his name - check 14:20:22 <TheMonster> :D 14:20:49 <banas> great, so we're all covered then? 14:20:54 <sonalkr132> looks like it 14:21:03 <banas> zodbot, is our dear bot who handles the meetings for us. 14:21:06 <TheMonster> zodbot: wanna say something? 14:21:08 <TheMonster> :D 14:21:22 <banas> #topic Fedora specific stuff 14:21:33 <ahmedsaleh-andro> is my nickname ahmedsaleh-andro ? Really :D 14:21:36 <banas> Did all of you get a FAS account yet? 14:21:42 <mecyborg> yes 14:21:44 <ahmedsaleh-andro> that's suppoese to be android :D 14:21:46 <TheMonster> I did 14:22:03 <banas> okay, great 14:22:07 <devyani7> I did as well 14:22:10 <sonalkr132> have_FAS_account: true 14:22:11 <TheMonster> well it seemed... strange ahmedsaleh-andro :D 14:22:17 <banas> some other random things I'd like to point out 14:22:29 <ahmedsaleh-andro> what is FAS ? 14:22:52 <banas> #info https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ 14:23:04 <TheMonster> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ 14:23:07 <ahmedsaleh-andro> nope i didn't 14:23:12 <banas> FAS accounts = Fedora Account System 14:23:20 <ahmedsaleh-andro> oops :D 14:23:25 <banas> so you basically get yourself registered with the fedora community 14:23:43 <banas> you'll then have a username, you'll sign a contributor agreement 14:23:48 <ahmedsaleh-andro> okay, i will as soon as i get home 14:23:55 <banas> and then all of your work can be linked to your account 14:24:03 <banas> we have several working groups 14:24:20 <banas> people who focus on specific parts of fedora get added to them 14:24:29 <banas> for example, there's the design group 14:24:31 <mecyborg> it works on wiki, right ? 14:24:53 <sonalkr132> banas: Hey.. mine is not elaborate like your but more like what rohitpaul has. Just basic contacts and stuff 14:24:56 <banas> who does artwork, website design, tshirts among other things (and who we're building GG for) 14:25:01 <sonalkr132> I hope thats good enough for now? 14:26:05 <sonalkr132> Does sketching counts? 14:27:14 <banas> mecyborg: yes it does 14:27:14 <banas> #info https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team Design Team Mailing List 14:27:14 <banas> that's the list where fedora's design team folks do stuff like agreements,meeting agenda, events and so on 14:27:14 <banas> so i'd suggest signing up 14:27:14 <banas> you'll then be in touch with people you're making stuff for :) 14:27:15 <banas> other fedora areas.. um 14:27:15 <banas> have you folks been introduced to planet yet? 14:27:28 <ahmedsaleh-andro> Great 14:27:40 <banas> sonalkr132: are you referrring to the wiki page? 14:27:41 <sonalkr132> ahh.. no? 14:27:51 <sonalkr132> what is planet 14:27:56 <TheMonster> wow you have planet too? 14:28:02 <banas> yes we do 14:28:07 <banas> #info Fedora Planet http://planet.fedoraproject.org/ 14:28:13 <sonalkr132> and yes I was referring to wiki page of users 14:28:37 <banas> sonalkr132: yep, no worries, put whatever you feel comfortable 14:28:39 <ahmedsaleh-andro> this is the new main page of Fedora right ? 14:29:21 <banas> my wikipage lands up in searh results, and employers look at it, so i decided to add some stuff to it - needs updates :) 14:29:43 <banas> ahmedsaleh-andro: that link is that of planets 14:30:00 <banas> we have a lot of contributors, and all of them write posts on their personal blog 14:30:10 <sonalkr132> Exactly.. what is planet? 14:30:14 <banas> the planet is like an aggregator 14:30:25 <sonalkr132> for blogs? 14:30:47 <banas> so let's say if all of us blogged on our personal spaces with the tag glittergallery, and would like for them to show up on one place 14:30:55 <banas> then we can add them to planet 14:31:00 <banas> if you went to planet now 14:31:20 <banas> you'll find that the latest post is from adimania, for example 14:31:32 <mecyborg> yes i can see 14:31:40 <banas> he didn't exactly write for the planet in a way you would write for a blog 14:31:44 <TheMonster> cool.. There's a separate part for GSoC 14:31:49 <sonalkr132> cooool 14:32:04 <banas> but he simply wrote on his blog, attached a category to it, and it got fetched here 14:32:24 <banas> so while getting all of you to planet would involve us helping you land a particular fedora group 14:32:27 <ahmedsaleh-andro> awesome 14:32:30 <banas> i'd encourage you to blog 14:32:35 <sonalkr132> Something which GG needs for comments and IRC 14:32:42 <ahmedsaleh-andro> i will try it with my blog 14:32:42 <TheMonster> #info Joining Fedora Summer Coding planet http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_Fedora_Summer_Coding_planet 14:33:01 <TheMonster> you might find this helpful 14:33:50 <banas> hi shubham! might want to introduce yourself, we have new faces! :) 14:34:06 <shubham> Hi everyone :) 14:34:12 <TheMonster> hi shubham :) 14:34:18 <ahmedsaleh-andro> Hello 14:34:21 <shubham> sorry just forgot about the meeting. really sorry fro that 14:34:32 <sonalkr132> Better late than never 14:34:53 <banas> no problem - we were just kinda introducing and i was going over some fedora medium 14:35:05 <shubham> Yeah, exactly. Can I get the log. 14:35:14 <shubham> Oh.. @banas, nice. 14:35:15 <banas> i'll send it over at the end of the meeting 14:35:21 <shubham> Did I miss much? 14:35:28 <shubham> Okay thanks. 14:35:28 <banas> no, not at all 14:35:29 <mecyborg> no not much 14:35:42 <TheMonster> banas: There seems to be no method of validation in summer coding planet... Is it OK if one adds himself and starts posting now? 14:36:07 <banas> there is no validation = you are able to add yourself without being given a group? 14:36:28 <shubham> Thats good. You guys continue your convo, I'll try to make what you are upto 14:36:33 <TheMonster> no I meant anyone can add himself 14:36:59 <TheMonster> no admin confirmation or anything 14:37:17 <banas> um, I'm not sure what you mean exactly, but if you mean that you're able to post to summer coding planet, then sure, go ahead! 14:37:33 <banas> normally, you are added to a group (like design team, infra or something else) 14:37:38 <TheMonster> yeah... I mean anyone can do if I understood correctly 14:37:44 <TheMonster> yeah that's for the main planet 14:37:50 <banas> and then your posts start to show on planet. 14:37:54 <TheMonster> but summer coding doesn't seem to have that requirement 14:37:58 <banas> okay, if you're able to, go ahead :) 14:38:13 <TheMonster> oh no nvm 14:38:14 <TheMonster> sorry 14:38:16 <TheMonster> I missed it 14:38:18 <banas> and in general, this is for everyone, please blog about what you're working on. 14:38:22 <TheMonster> summer coding has that requirement 14:38:25 <banas> yep 14:38:30 <TheMonster> banas: from now? 14:39:08 <banas> yep, it's always nice to have stuff blogged - for one, it serves as some kind of documentation we can link to, it also gives the project some visbility :) 14:39:38 <TheMonster> Alright 14:39:40 <banas> several times, I have been able to avoid long explanations to why some change was introduced by pointing to a blog link 14:39:54 <sonalkr132> Actually I was going to ask why blog but I guess that explains it 14:39:58 <mecyborg> yes it also helps in keeping track 14:40:33 <banas> yeh, and I think I personally learned that my flow of writing improved, although i'm not saying that'll happen to anyone 14:40:52 <banas> i read some of my earliest blog posts and laugh :D 14:40:59 <shubham> I did setup fedora acc. But it requires ssh access. 14:41:07 <shubham> @banas: is there any other way? 14:41:23 <banas> shubham: ssh access for going to your fedorapeople? 14:41:43 <banas> not sure of any other way, i normally use the ssh - maybe you can ask in #fedora-admin 14:41:47 <shubham> Yes. 14:41:56 <shubham> As per - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet?rd=Planet_HowTo 14:42:50 <shubham> My university doesn't provide ssh :(. I tried to make a work around. But it seems it really not possible. 14:43:04 <banas> yeh, happens to me as well, i go on personal 3g 14:43:19 <banas> anyway 14:43:24 <banas> in the interest of time, moving on 14:43:38 <banas> I think that's pretty much it in terms of fedora stuff 14:43:53 <sonalkr132> for now 14:43:53 <banas> oh yeah - some channels you might want to hang out in 14:43:57 <banas> #fedora-design 14:44:04 <banas> for design stuff 14:44:41 <banas> mizmo used to be associated with gg in the early days, she still provides us with insight on what features designers will want 14:44:52 <banas> #fedora-admin 14:45:06 <banas> for all of fedora's apps - although most of them are python based 14:45:26 <TheMonster> you meant #fedora-apps ? 14:45:40 <banas> oh there's actually also #fedora-apps 14:45:46 <banas> thanks TheMonster 14:45:51 <TheMonster> :) 14:46:00 <banas> most of the folks working on those apps are on admin too 14:46:07 <banas> admin is more like a superset 14:46:15 <banas> from what I've observed 14:46:24 <sonalkr132> Don't we have ones in ruby? 14:46:35 <TheMonster> yeah... It definitely has the largest number of people 14:46:42 <banas> we have a ruby sig - special interest group 14:47:03 <banas> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ruby_SIG 14:47:06 <TheMonster> websites? in #fedora-design ? 14:47:11 <banas> although I'm not too much in touch 14:47:16 <banas> there's a #fedora-websites 14:47:22 <TheMonster> cool 14:47:25 <banas> and also #fedora-design 14:47:42 <banas> it's mostly mizmo or ryanlerch who helps out with websites from design team, iirc 14:47:55 <banas> (and I promise to help, but never do :P) 14:48:05 <TheMonster> :D 14:48:09 <sonalkr132> Hey.. you are helping with GG 14:48:15 <TheMonster> what's the process for joining the web team? 14:48:23 <TheMonster> or any team in general 14:48:28 <banas> good question 14:48:32 <banas> gimme a sec 14:48:35 <mecyborg> i m also looking fwd to website team 14:48:52 <banas> first of all, if you haven't checked it out already 14:48:55 <banas> #info http://whatcanidoforfedora.org/ 14:49:37 <TheMonster> I see 14:49:48 <banas> gnokii has this awesome set of slides 14:49:51 <banas> #info https://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/talks/character_slide_en.svg 14:50:05 <banas> which outlines how to reach out to various non-programming groups 14:50:13 <banas> although the process for the other groups is similar 14:50:22 <banas> join the mailing list and say hello 14:50:40 <banas> ask for their bug tracker, maybe join during a weekly group meeting and ask for starting pointers 14:50:46 <banas> and you're likely to get onboarded 14:50:50 <mecyborg> gnokii is pretty cool :D 14:50:58 <TheMonster> nice 14:51:18 <sonalkr132> So was the first one 14:51:28 <shubham> Didn't know about whatcanido :P. nice! 14:51:42 <banas> i also wanted to make an app that helps onboarding efforts, but haven;t really had a chance to work on it 14:51:43 <mecyborg> it is similar to mozilla 14:51:45 <banas> https://github.com/sarupbanskota/everytrack 14:51:52 <banas> mecyborg: yep, it was forked from theirs 14:52:39 <banas> so.. does that answer all your questions? 14:52:44 <sonalkr132> Aren't all fedora projects on github? 14:52:51 <banas> not all of them sonalkr132 14:52:58 <sonalkr132> Most? 14:53:11 <sonalkr132> it would be just easier to just find one which we like and send PRs 14:53:18 <banas> actually, i'm not sure. 14:53:27 <banas> i think some of them have their own bug trackers 14:53:36 <banas> like a bugzlla or trac or something 14:53:46 <banas> but most infra projects are on github 14:54:04 <sonalkr132> yeah thats the team <3 14:54:32 <sonalkr132> No offense to designers team. btw :D 14:54:44 <banas> haha, no worries - they do great work :) 14:54:53 <banas> so, next topic? 14:54:59 <banas> brb 14:55:00 <sonalkr132> yeah.. next!!! 14:55:21 <banas> okay, I'll leave a question and go 14:55:32 <banas> that will hopefully trigger a discussion 14:55:40 <banas> and i'll be back in 5 mins or so 14:55:46 <banas> #topic What are you working on? 14:55:55 <banas> leaving it to you guys 14:56:28 <sonalkr132> My proposal :D how many of you have already submitted? 14:57:01 <TheMonster> other than writing the proposal and trying to make design decisions... In my plans, I continue my work on routes 14:57:03 <mecyborg> still working on 14:57:05 <shubham> Okay..you guys are working on many things for a month now. I always find my mail full in the morning :P. 14:57:08 <TheMonster> and the testing 14:57:30 <shubham> @TheMonster, what idea you working on? 14:57:43 <TheMonster> I don't get the question :D 14:57:52 <shubham> ..for the proposal? 14:58:00 <TheMonster> well... Glitter Gallery :D 14:58:14 <sonalkr132> Yeah we created the biggest contribution hype GG has ever seen 14:58:17 <sonalkr132> Cheers to us :D 14:58:18 <shubham> I meant: what exactly are you going to propose? 14:58:46 <TheMonster> The improvements in the ideas list + some ideas from my mind ;) 14:59:08 <shubham> Nice! i missed the idea list. Can I get the link? 14:59:11 <banas> indeed, you guys have been lovely, thank you! 14:59:32 <sonalkr132> Yeah we are awesome :D 14:59:45 <mecyborg> @shubham: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2015 14:59:54 <banas> if you're planning on sending a proposal, now is a good time to start doing your first draft - so send them our way. 15:00:01 <TheMonster> #info Summer coding ideas https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2015#Glitter_Gallery_Improvements 15:00:03 <mecyborg> yes we are *high five* :P 15:00:08 <shubham> mercyborg: thanks :) 15:00:16 <sonalkr132> *high five* 15:00:29 <banas> Paul was requesting that you guys work on improving the code linting 15:00:37 <banas> extending, rather 15:00:42 <sonalkr132> mine mine mine 15:00:45 <mecyborg> yes i saw that 15:00:52 <TheMonster> yeah... I want to leave that for sonalkr132 15:01:06 <banas> great :) 15:01:09 <TheMonster> I prefer to make the design itself better and complete the tests 15:01:13 <sonalkr132> actually just the spec/ part for now 15:01:15 <TheMonster> before the summer starts 15:01:32 <shubham> I might not propose anything :(. But I'll around in helping others in summer :) 15:01:44 <sonalkr132> Just need to finish writing the proposal. 15:01:47 <banas> yes, add more tests, let's make it more comprehensive 15:01:48 <sonalkr132> related to that.. 15:02:02 <sonalkr132> there was question in mailing list of summer-code 15:02:11 <mecyborg> i am more focussed on the design of GG 15:02:29 <sonalkr132> Are formats for submission on melange and fedora wiki suppose to be the same? 15:02:42 <mecyborg> are u guys satisfied with the current design ? 15:02:52 <banas> personally, i'm going to be doing some new interface design and such stuff at work, so as I get better at it, I'll improve and push stuff here 15:02:53 <ahmedsaleh> Nope 15:03:32 <shubham> Nope 15:03:48 <banas> mecyborg: you can hardly ever be satisfied with design, it's an iterative thing. 15:03:52 <sonalkr132> Whats with design.. what about all the awesome features we need so that GG is in productions :( 15:04:07 <mecyborg> indeed 15:04:17 <banas> there's a lot of feature requests we need to attend to first, which consume more time. 15:04:28 <ahmedsaleh> but the design is vital 15:04:40 <banas> now that we have more people, we can definitely focus on it 15:04:56 <sonalkr132> So.. there is no near plans of getting GG in prod? 15:04:57 <mecyborg> yes we can 15:05:30 <banas> sonalkr132: after local repo support + sparkleshare is through, we'll do something about getting an official design team thingy 15:05:51 <banas> right now people need to manually upload, which isn't fun 15:06:02 <TheMonster> banas: ') 15:06:04 <TheMonster> ;) 15:06:20 <banas> TheMonster: yeh, I saw that :P 15:06:24 <TheMonster> :D 15:06:45 <banas> and general bug fixes, robust commenting, things like that 15:07:02 <sonalkr132> banas: Honestly it would be great if explain even more.. How many of you has idea how integration with sparkelshare and inkscape is suppose to work? 15:07:20 <ahmedsaleh> yeah 15:07:22 <sonalkr132> I still don't have much clue.. i tried to read some blogs.. still nothing 15:07:33 <ahmedsaleh> +1 15:07:36 <banas> sonalkr132: wait, let me fetch you a link 15:08:29 <mecyborg> and external bug tracking - is that in priority list ? 15:08:58 <banas> hm, there used to be this article that had described it pretty well. 15:09:16 <banas> have you set up sparkleshare on your computer? 15:09:20 <sonalkr132> sparkleshare? 15:09:23 <sonalkr132> yes.. 15:09:27 <sonalkr132> feels kinda buggy tho 15:09:44 <sonalkr132> Sometimes I need to restart it for it to work 15:10:24 <sonalkr132> I can get my head around sparkleshare.. we can use to sync files. But what about inkscape? 15:10:40 <banas> inkscape isn't in the picture here (yet) 15:10:50 <banas> think of sparkleshare like dropbox 15:11:00 <banas> if you have stuff in your dropbox folder 15:11:12 <banas> let's say an svg file 15:11:18 <sonalkr132> yeah.. still we need our own server. 15:11:21 <banas> and you open in inkscape and play around with it 15:12:00 <banas> that file will get synced with your dropbox. so independent of *how* the file is changed, the syncing is dropbox's job 15:12:44 <banas> likewise, at this point, we want sparkleshare to connect with your local git repositories, and in turn the local git repos to talk to your remotely stored GG ones 15:13:09 <sonalkr132> Won't user have to set up sparkleshare on his own? 15:13:26 <sonalkr132> Things like pointing it our server 15:13:40 <banas> most of the folks using GG have SparkleShare 15:13:59 <banas> the design team folks use it 15:14:33 <banas> they don't mind doing the config work as long as they get the benefit of a visual interface for tracking changes 15:14:43 <banas> + for sparkleshare to do the syncing 15:14:44 <mecyborg> so its a prerequisite to use GG ? 15:15:01 <banas> nope, sparkleshare and gg are independent. 15:15:09 <sonalkr132> How are we going to pick up changes which sparkleshare shows? 15:16:12 <banas> look at this wiki article for example: https://github.com/hbons/SparkleShare/wiki/Using-SparkleShare-with-Github-Repos 15:16:38 <sonalkr132> thats github repo 15:16:41 <sonalkr132> the website 15:17:29 <sonalkr132> with website it's easy. we just need to add the link of github to sparkleshare 15:18:05 <banas> with website? 15:18:13 <sonalkr132> But we won't be doing that for local repo support. repo need not be on github. how do we pick up changes then? 15:18:42 <sonalkr132> that doc explains how to use sparkleshare with github the website. 15:18:51 <banas> ah, that's just an example - think of GG being GitHub. 15:20:03 <sonalkr132> exactly.. what exact tool/gem or way would we use so that after local repo is sync with our server, we can display changes like "addie edited file.svg" 15:22:18 <sonalkr132> The sparkleshare share would just change the content of file and our website would display the new changed version but how would our website know that sparkleshare has performed a sync and notify the followers of the project 15:22:47 <banas> that sync goes via the local repo 15:23:27 <banas> um, I'm not sure at what point we're at the same page 15:23:30 <TheMonster> sonalkr132: sparkleshare just needs a git server 15:23:51 <TheMonster> if you're able to push, sparkleshare is able to push 15:24:47 <banas> and currently, we aren't able to push. we have other gitty stuff working, but you can't push to git repos generated via GG through the terminal 15:25:08 <sonalkr132> I understand that. But how would our website know that it did a push? i understand that contents will be changed and everything will work fine but how will we make the site aware that a push or sync happened 15:25:28 <TheMonster> why do you want the website to know? 15:25:36 <sonalkr132> so that we can notify users? 15:25:46 <sonalkr132> add a commit to history ? 15:25:53 <TheMonster> well... 15:25:58 <TheMonster> if a commit is pushed 15:25:59 <sonalkr132> users = users who follow the project 15:26:02 <TheMonster> it is added to history 15:26:02 <banas> the add commit to history has happened at the local repo stage 15:26:14 <banas> we don't want to add again 15:26:43 <sonalkr132> so git will be involved all the way? 15:27:03 <TheMonster> mmm can you define "involved"? 15:27:42 <sonalkr132> We will need to commit (involve git) for our website to pick it up 15:27:51 <banas> see - when you push something to github, you do the commits locally. 15:28:06 <banas> these commits don't get generated once they're pushed to github. 15:28:29 <sonalkr132> yeah I understand it now. we can read config files of git to know that change has happened 15:28:43 <banas> now there are two things to observe - one that your local repo talks to your remote one 15:29:09 <banas> and one that we don't want to explicitly make the user write a commit message via the terminal every time she hits save 15:29:14 <banas> that 15:29:20 <banas> thats what sparkleshare is for 15:29:35 <banas> it won't work unless we have the local -> remote connection working, ofc 15:29:36 <mecyborg> now i am getting it 15:29:37 <mecyborg> :P 15:30:08 <shubham> I too got some doubts cleaned up. 15:30:19 <sonalkr132> lol. you are welcome 15:30:34 <mecyborg> need to study more about sparkleshare 15:30:44 <sonalkr132> What about online SVG edits? Is that dropped for now? 15:31:10 <mecyborg> sorry guys have to go. time for dinner :) 15:31:23 <mecyborg> will be back soon :D 15:31:28 * TheMonster ate dinner in the middle of the meeting :D 15:31:44 <mecyborg> hehe 15:31:51 <sonalkr132> Bon something. lolz 15:31:53 <TheMonster> lunch* 15:31:59 <banas> no worries, i will have to leave soon too, I have another bug-fixing thing going on as well parallely 15:32:12 <banas> online svgs, is not top priority 15:32:12 <sonalkr132> SVGssssss 15:32:22 <banas> but we want it eventually, ofc 15:32:47 <mecyborg> @banas plz can u send us the log. thanks :D 15:32:58 <banas> so if you aren't working on the git-ty stuff, you can take that up 15:32:59 <sonalkr132> To be able to create new ones and makes changes to existing ones online? 15:33:06 <banas> sonalkr132: yep 15:33:39 <sonalkr132> thats another thing which is on idea's page :P 15:33:40 <banas> not sure if I shared this with you before, sonalkr132 15:33:50 <sonalkr132> You guys should really update it. 15:33:53 <banas> #info https://github.com/xuv/design-with-git Design with git, for SVG comparison 15:34:06 <sonalkr132> Yeah I you do. thanks again. 15:34:08 <banas> oh the ideas page is just a general starting page full of random ideas 15:34:43 <banas> you get to know what people are working on when you communicate :) 15:35:09 <sonalkr132> yeah.. we need to do this more often 15:35:24 * TheMonster *nods* 15:35:28 <banas> we normally do weekly meetings at 14UTC on wednesdays 15:35:30 <TheMonster> it's nice :) 15:35:48 <banas> but lately paul, emily and I have gotten little held up :) 15:35:54 <sonalkr132> I am working of completing my PR with ajax comments. and after that is cleaning of spec/ 15:36:04 <banas> that said, if you guys notify us few days in advance, i for one can show up :D 15:36:38 <TheMonster> Thanks a lot for doing this banas :) 15:36:52 <TheMonster> I appreciate you showing up :D 15:37:11 <banas> np :) 15:37:14 <sonalkr132> hey.. wait. don't do ending pleasantries yet. 15:37:20 <sonalkr132> I have a lot to ask. 15:37:39 <sonalkr132> Are we going to follow TDD? 15:37:43 <banas> lol, i was going to ask if you have any other general questions left, because I have to leave soon. 15:37:53 <banas> sonalkr132: if we can follow it, sure. 15:38:06 <sonalkr132> thats why we need to do this more often. 15:38:16 <sonalkr132> No.. ideas page says that we have to follow TDD\ 15:38:28 <shubham> sonalkr132: it's upto the module you are taking up. 15:38:29 <sonalkr132> keyword: HAVE 15:38:54 <shubham> Personlly I didnt follow it when linking relationships of Users 15:39:14 <banas> feel free to leave emails about anything that we can't bring up today 15:39:14 <shubham> But its great if you do follow! 15:39:36 <banas> well, now don't start picking on the ideas page like mistakes a professor did on the blackboard ;) 15:39:47 <sonalkr132> I am not used to testing yet, so it will be difficult for me if that becomes a requirement -_- 15:39:47 <banas> but if it does, sure, we would love it. 15:40:13 <TheMonster> the page does say that? 15:40:17 <banas> it's definitely not a requirement, at least not right away 15:40:17 <TheMonster> I don't remember seeing it 15:40:23 <sonalkr132> I think so 15:40:55 <banas> yeh, based on a page find, i couldn't locate it either. 15:40:56 <TheMonster> just scanned... No, it doesn't 15:41:07 <banas> sonalkr132 is asking for more work :D 15:41:19 <sonalkr132> ehh.. well I saw it somewhere.. 15:41:20 <TheMonster> banas: did you write that sentence after you saw mine? 15:41:35 <TheMonster> you type very quickly :D 15:41:37 <banas> which one? 15:41:39 <banas> haha 15:41:45 <TheMonster> yeh, based on a page find, i couldn't locate it either. 15:41:59 <shubham> :D 15:42:09 <TheMonster> that was almost instant 15:42:13 <banas> happens :) 15:42:30 <banas> okay, one last question, and then you can send the rest over emial 15:42:42 <TheMonster> ok here's a helping hand 15:42:46 <TheMonster> what's your name ? 15:42:51 <TheMonster> feel free to go now :D 15:43:39 <banas> :P 15:43:43 <sonalkr132> yeah.. I need to eat too. Good bye guys. Until next time.... 15:44:00 <banas> okay great, i suppose we can close then 15:44:04 <banas> thanks for coming everyone! 15:44:09 <banas> and keep up the great work. 15:44:19 <shubham> Yay. Bye everyone :) 15:44:39 <banas> #endmeeting