12:00:38 <hagarth> #startmeeting
12:00:38 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 25 12:00:38 2015 UTC.  The chair is hagarth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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12:00:47 <hagarth> ndevos: I sent a reminder too on the MLs ;)
12:00:50 <hagarth> #topic Roll Call
12:00:52 * kkeithley is here
12:00:55 * jimjag is here
12:00:56 * Debloper is here.
12:00:58 * ndevos is here _o/
12:00:58 * kshlm o/
12:01:14 * partner o/
12:01:17 * overclk is here
12:01:26 * spot is awake
12:01:29 <hagarth> sounds like we have quorum, let's get rolling
12:01:37 <hagarth> #topic Action items from the last meeting(s)
12:01:49 <hagarth> AI - tigert to continue investigating the blog post duplication
12:02:02 <hagarth> tigert: any update on this one if you are around?
12:02:28 <hagarth> does not look to be the case, moving on
12:02:32 <hagarth> AI - hchiramm will share the outcome of the non-mailinglist packagng discussions on the mailinglist (including the Board)
12:02:46 <hagarth> hchiramm__/hchiramm: any updates on this one?
12:03:03 <hagarth> hchiramm MIA, moving on
12:03:08 <hagarth> AI - hagarth will complete the feature page for (k)vm hyperconvergence
12:03:10 * tigert is here
12:03:17 * raghu is here
12:03:20 <hagarth> tigert: any update on the first AI ?
12:03:33 <tigert> no :(
12:04:05 <hagarth> tigert: no worries, let us move this for next week
12:04:14 <hagarth> #action tigert to continue investigating the blog post duplication
12:04:30 <tigert> I need help with this I think
12:04:36 <tigert> because I dont dare to touch the current setup
12:04:51 <hagarth> tigert: whose assistance might be most useful for this?
12:04:51 <tigert> maybe have a new vm with wordpress and that plugin to test whether the same happens there
12:05:05 <tigert> or just think of doing a real planetplanet instance?
12:05:31 <tigert> and maybe a blog next to it that also gets pulled in in case people write also in the actual blog itself
12:05:31 <hagarth> tigert: that is another option, we can discuss more on this during the website revamp topic
12:05:35 <tigert> yeah
12:06:06 <hagarth> coming to my AI, I have a basic page for kvm hyperconvergence at http://www.gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Features/Ovirt_Hyperconvergence
12:06:16 <hagarth> pranith or me will fill more details there
12:06:29 <hagarth> #action pranithk and hagarth to update http://www.gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Features/Ovirt_Hyperconvergence
12:06:41 <hagarth> AI - spot to reach out to community about website messaging
12:06:59 <spot> hagarth: do you remember what that AI actually means? :)
12:07:11 <partner> the slogan?
12:07:22 <hagarth> spot: this was about what do we need instead of "Write Once, Read Anywhere"
12:07:22 <spot> is it just coming up with some new slogan ideas?
12:07:34 <hagarth> spot: yes
12:07:37 <spot> okay. I have nothing there, but I'll start working on it
12:07:47 <ndevos> well, the current slogans is wrong, it can be misunderstood too easily
12:07:57 * spot has been putting all of his time into Gluster Summit
12:08:08 <hagarth> ndevos: +1
12:08:12 <tigert> if we discuss website messaging, it could also be "what should we have on the website"
12:08:23 <hagarth> tigert: sure, let us park it for there
12:08:28 <Debloper> tigert++
12:08:32 <hagarth> carrying on the AI lest we forget it
12:08:41 <hagarth> #action spot to reach out to community about website messaging
12:08:45 <Debloper> "Unified, poly-protocol, scale-out, open source filesystem, serving petabytes of data."
12:08:49 <tigert> as in news / blog, community section (coding, meetings etc), case studies, documentation
12:08:52 <tigert> etc
12:08:55 <hagarth> AI - hagarth to carry forward discussion on automated builds for various platforms in gluster-infra ML
12:09:10 <hagarth> I haven't found time for this over the last few weeks .. anybody willing to take this over?
12:09:32 <hagarth> guess not, the AI stays with me :)
12:09:39 <ndevos> hehe
12:09:39 <hagarth> #action hagarth to carry forward discussion on automated builds for various platforms in gluster-infra ML
12:09:47 <hagarth> AI - ndevos should send out a reminder about Maintainer responsibilities to the -devel list
12:09:55 <hagarth> ndevos: any update on this one?
12:09:56 * msvbhat joins the meeting
12:09:56 <ndevos> oh, thats almost done
12:10:11 <hchiramm> hagarth, on packaging , yet to conclude .
12:10:14 <ndevos> the email is almost ready, but I got pulled into an unexpect call
12:10:24 <hagarth> hchiramm: ok
12:10:28 <hagarth> ndevos: this week then?
12:10:29 <ndevos> I'll finish it during this meeting, or just a few minutes after
12:10:51 <hagarth> now is a good time to do that since we are feature freezing 3.7, more on 3.7 later
12:10:55 * ndevos was planning to send it before the meeting, but that failed :-/
12:11:03 <hagarth> #action ndevos should send out a reminder about Maintainer responsibilities to the -devel list
12:11:11 <hagarth> AI - telmich will send an email to the gluster-users list about Gluster support in QEMU on Debian/Ubuntu
12:11:31 <hagarth> has anybody reached out telmich / Nico ?
12:11:52 <ndevos> he doesnt seem to be on irc atm
12:12:04 <hagarth> guess not, let us task JustinClift with this since he is not around :)
12:12:22 <hagarth> #action JustinClift to reach out to telmich for  Gluster support in QEMU on Debian/Ubuntu
12:12:26 <ndevos> someone who knows a little about qemu on debian/ubuntu should get in touch?
12:12:50 <hagarth> ndevos: probably JustinClift can copy some of us who know a bit about that
12:13:06 <hagarth> AI - JustinClift to get JimJag the info he needs for progressing the board engagement
12:13:13 <hagarth> jimjag: any update on this one?
12:13:34 <jimjag> Haven't rec'd the info yet. Pinged JustinClift and JMW this am w/ a reminder
12:13:47 <jimjag> I am looking for dates and facilities for the f2f
12:14:08 <ndevos> would the board not attend the gluster summit too?
12:14:10 <jimjag> Likely location will be in Westford @ Red Hat
12:14:33 <jimjag> ndevos: Yes, they will attend, but the hope is to meet before that if possible
12:14:42 <ndevos> ah, ok
12:14:48 <hagarth> jimjag: ok, shall we persist this AI or drop it off the agenda?
12:15:01 <jimjag> persist for 1 week please
12:15:09 <hagarth> jimjag: ok, thanks
12:15:13 <jimjag> np
12:15:30 <hagarth> #action jimjag will continue engaging with the board
12:15:41 <hagarth> AI - hagarth will post more details about an overlay xlator (container targetted) when he has a bit more clarity (and post his hacks)
12:15:58 <hagarth> tbd, I plan to discuss more about our container strategy in the coming week
12:16:09 <hagarth> AI - firemanxbr to submit a patch for 3.6.3, change IP addr.
12:16:16 <hagarth> firemanxbr: any update on this one?
12:16:36 <hagarth> guess firemanxbr is not around atm. moving on.
12:16:39 <hagarth> AI - tigert will share practical plans for ReVamping the AweSUM next GlusterFS Web Presence
12:16:51 <tigert> ok
12:17:07 <hagarth> tigert: discuss more on this in the agenda topic later?
12:17:13 <tigert> my practical plan is to get people together to discuss what we want
12:17:19 <tigert> so yeah, it wont be solved here
12:17:30 <tigert> trying to have this on the mailing list is seemingly ineffective
12:17:39 <hagarth> tigert: let's do this a bit later, Debloper also has some ideas.
12:17:43 <tigert> yes
12:17:45 <hagarth> AI - dlambrig to contact other devs about the spurious failures
12:18:03 <hagarth> dlambrig dropped me a note saying he won't be attending today's meeting but let us discuss this later
12:18:28 <hagarth> failing regression tests have been very painful .. especially more so when we are working towards meeting the feature freeze milestone.
12:18:39 <hagarth> that's it from the short AI list :)
12:18:44 <hagarth> #topic Gluster 3.6
12:18:45 <firemanxbr> hagarth, hey guys, I back...
12:18:55 <hagarth> firemanxbr: any update on your action item?
12:18:59 <Debloper> hagarth tigert, instead of discussing, let's just move ahead with some content for folks to look into - and give feedback on.
12:18:59 <firemanxbr> hagarth, no update, sorry my delay
12:19:16 <Debloper> I'll send in my staging URL in some times or early tomorrow.
12:19:17 <hagarth> firemanxbr: no problems, I will retain your AI
12:19:19 <firemanxbr> hagarth, I'm working in new Gerrit for infra, no more freetime for this.
12:19:38 <hagarth> firemanxbr: yes, that is very important considering the April 20th deadline
12:19:56 <hagarth> firemanxbr: thanks for all your efforts there!
12:20:03 <hagarth> Debloper: ok
12:20:07 <firemanxbr> hagarth, but I following steps sent for ndevos
12:20:32 <hagarth> firemanxbr: ok
12:20:45 <hagarth> raghu: any updates on gluster 3.6?
12:20:59 <raghu> I have accepted patches from afr, quota. Some EC related patches are failing regressions. I want to take them in for 3.6.3. there are some rdma patches as well. They are dependent patches. Some of them have passed regressions and some have failed. I have asked rafi to take a look at it. But I am not sure whether el5 dependency issue got resolved or not.
12:21:32 <hagarth> raghu: what is the el5 dependency for rdma?
12:21:53 <raghu> hagarth: Not sure. niels has some idea about it.
12:22:01 <hagarth> ndevos: ?
12:22:06 <ndevos> raghu: I think el5 should work now, maybe not in Fedora COPR for the nightly builds, but normal builds should succeed
12:22:30 <raghu> ndevos: So, is it ok to make a beta2 and then GA 3.6.3?
12:22:32 <hagarth> I think it would be fair to say that rdma is not supported on el5 if it is too hard to address
12:22:54 <ndevos> raghu: I can build the packages on el5 for testing first
12:22:57 <hagarth> raghu: I certainly feel so
12:23:16 <hagarth> any known issues to be fixed in 3.6.3?
12:23:35 <raghu> Then, I will be doing a beta2 this weekend and probably will GA it next week
12:24:05 <hagarth> raghu: cool, that sounds good
12:24:18 <hagarth> #info 3.6.3 to be GA next week
12:24:25 <hagarth> anything more on 3.6?
12:24:41 <hagarth> guess not, moving on
12:24:47 <hagarth> #topic Gluster 3.5
12:24:48 <raghu> hagarth: I just want to make sure all the release-3.6 patches have been merged before making beta2. So triggering regression runs on the patches that have got an ack
12:24:54 <hagarth> raghu: ok
12:25:11 <hagarth> ndevos: updates on 3.5?
12:25:27 <ndevos> same el5 build issue as on 3.6, thats the only blocking point for doing a 3.5.4beta1
12:25:54 <hagarth> ndevos: since el7 is out, should we continue supporting el5?
12:25:58 <ndevos> I do not know of any patches that need to get in
12:26:12 <ndevos> well, yes, for 3.4, 3.5 and 3.6 we need to keep el5 support
12:26:27 <hagarth> ndevos: ok
12:26:37 <ndevos> we could maybe drop it for 3.7, but I would expect that we need client-side support for el7 for older releases
12:26:38 <kkeithley> so we can drop el5 with 3.7?
12:26:43 <hagarth> ndevos: maybe do a beta1 without el5 support?
12:27:08 <hagarth> kkeithley: I am in favor of doing that unless the larger community feels it is important
12:27:13 <ndevos> hagarth: el5 may work, and the build issue is not so much el5-contained, but in the Fedora COPR buildsys
12:27:26 <hagarth> ndevos: ok
12:27:41 <hagarth> maybe we should poll the community about continued el5 support?
12:27:42 <kkeithley> Well, we have other issues with the version of python in el5, right?
12:27:56 <hagarth> kkeithley: yes, for geo-replication IIRC.
12:28:00 <kkeithley> for heal, among other things
12:28:07 <kkeithley> right
12:28:19 <ndevos> we dont have geo-replication on el5, and I think we could drop all the server bits on el5 for 3.7
12:28:34 <kkeithley> so maybe if 3.6 client-side works with 3.7 we can just tell el5 users to keep using 3.6?
12:28:49 <ndevos> hmm, yes, *if*
12:28:49 <hagarth> ndevos: sounds like a good idea, would you want to propose this plan on gluster-users?
12:29:01 <hagarth> kkeithley: I expect 3.6 client side to work with 3.7
12:29:07 <ndevos> hagarth: sure, sign me up for that
12:29:22 <hagarth> #action ndevos to poll the community about continued el5 support
12:29:32 <hagarth> ndevos: a beta later this week then?
12:29:50 * ndevos doesnt know about other legacy distributions, but he'll see the responses on- and off-list
12:29:59 <ndevos> hagarth: yep
12:30:18 <hagarth> #info Gluster 3.5.4beta1 to land later this week
12:30:27 <hagarth> anything more on 3.5?
12:30:40 <ndevos> not from me
12:30:48 <hagarth> moving on
12:30:51 <hagarth> #topic 3.4
12:30:58 <ndevos> raghu: fwiw, glusterfs-3.6.3beta1-0.24.git73835a0.el5.centos.src.rpm builds fine on non Fedora COPR
12:31:13 <hagarth> kkeithley: any updates here?
12:31:16 <kkeithley> 3.4.7beta2 is 12 days old. The RPMs have been available for 7 or eight days
12:31:44 <kkeithley> How much longer do we want to give people to test?
12:31:58 * hchiramm probably 3.4.7 is the last 3.4 release :)
12:32:00 <kkeithley> Do we have any testing feedback
12:32:06 <JustinClift> Good point
12:32:09 <hagarth> kkeithley: maybe we should include one more patch .. the dht log flooding issue?
12:32:10 <kkeithley> yes, 3.4.7 is likely to be the last
12:32:25 <raghu> ndevos: cool.
12:32:45 <hchiramm> kkeithley++ thanks :)
12:32:54 <kkeithley> what is the BZ? has it been cloned for 3.4?
12:32:54 <hagarth> kkeithley: include that patch and do a beta3? announce a release schedule to the community saying
12:33:03 <JustinClift> Lets make a bunch of noise about last 3.4.x release is in final beta testing.  Please try it out now or forever hold your piece?
12:33:07 <ndevos> kkeithley: are you sad that you will not have anything to maintain anymore when 3.7 is out?
12:33:09 <JustinClift> hagarth: ^ ?
12:33:15 <hagarth> "If we don't get any feedback, I am going to release by <some-date>"
12:33:24 * JustinClift nods
12:33:26 <kkeithley> sad kkeithley is sad
12:33:26 <hagarth> JustinClift: sounds like a plan
12:33:52 <ndevos> kkeithley: I know a way to make you happy then :D - raise your hand for the next topic!
12:33:55 <kkeithley> March 31. April 1 not a good idea generally.  I'm flying to BLR on April 2.
12:34:09 <hagarth> kkeithley: release 3.4.7 from BLR? :)
12:34:17 <kkeithley> I could do that
12:34:30 <hagarth> ok cool
12:34:43 <hagarth> #info Gluster 3.4.7 to be released in the first week of April
12:34:52 <hagarth> anything more on 3.4?
12:34:54 <jdarcy> Just not April 1 please.
12:34:54 <kkeithley> Live, from Bannerghatta Road, it's Gluster 3.4.7
12:35:07 * spot aims the spotlights
12:35:16 <hagarth> jdarcy: I think kkeithley gets here on 4th or so.
12:35:24 <kkeithley> Probably nobody gets the Tonight Show "Live From New York City, It's David Letterman" references
12:35:43 * ndevos definitely didn't
12:35:50 <hagarth> ok, moving on.
12:35:53 <hagarth> #topic Gluster next
12:35:59 <hagarth> I will go first on 3.7
12:36:13 <hagarth> 3.7 is shaping up well. we have all patches for feature freeze.
12:36:17 <hagarth> so, well done everyone!
12:36:30 <JustinClift> Cool
12:36:37 <hchiramm> ++++
12:36:40 <ndevos> nice!
12:36:49 <JustinClift> Am I ok to shut down a bunch of Rackspace VM's then?
12:36:49 <hagarth> 3.7 is looking to be one of our bigger releases in terms of features.
12:36:58 <hagarth> JustinClift: think so
12:37:20 <JustinClift> :)
12:37:22 <hagarth> I will be dropping a note about having reached feature freeze and plans for branching release-3.7.
12:37:23 <ndevos> how long will you allow for stabilization and bug fixes before branching off release-3.7 ?
12:37:37 <jdarcy> Has anyone done a performance comparison from before and after Merge Madness?
12:37:40 <hchiramm> really appreciated if we can get the documentation patches for all features  before the release
12:37:43 <kkeithley> Code Freeze is April 15 (US Tax Day)
12:37:45 <JustinClift> jdarcy: Good idea
12:38:02 <hagarth> ndevos: I have started running tests, will update based on what I see :)
12:38:05 <ndevos> oh, yes, indeed, documentation for the feaures is needed before the branching
12:38:08 <kshlm> Awesome work everyone!
12:38:15 <jdarcy> I don't want our users to be the ones to tell us there's a major performance regression.
12:38:24 <JustinClift> hagarth: Are we ok to make "having any spurious failures still existing" a blocker for code freeze for 2.7 ?
12:38:30 <JustinClift> s/2.7/3.7/?
12:38:32 <hagarth> jdarcy: +1, I will try publishing some numbers between 3.6.3 and master soon.
12:38:55 <hagarth> hchiramm__: being the docs maintainer, can you send out a list of features that need documentation update?
12:39:04 <hagarth> JustinClift: +1
12:39:04 <kkeithley> Is code freeze when we branch, or will we branch sooner?
12:39:27 <hagarth> kkeithley: I intend branching sooner once we get more feedback from testing
12:39:29 <JustinClift> Cool
12:39:56 <hagarth> as soon as all maintainers are happy with their tests, I will branch release-3.7.
12:40:08 <hchiramm> hagarth, well, all the features need documentation ..  :) .. yes, I can send out an email requesting the same.
12:40:17 <JustinClift> We should prob branch after the spurios regression are nuked then.  Save us having to backport master to 3.7 branch then
12:40:39 <hagarth> #action hchiramm to send out a note on gluster-devel about features still needing documentation in 3.7.
12:40:53 <hagarth> JustinClift: sure, we could aim to do that.
12:41:00 <tigert> for documentation I suggest you keep shaunm in the loop
12:41:07 <hagarth> JustinClift: you are curating a list of spurious regressions somewhere right?
12:41:21 <JustinClift> hagarth: Hmmm, I can do
12:41:46 <atinmu> JustinClift, hagarth : identified a new one tests/bugs/distribute/bug-884455.t
12:41:48 <hagarth> JustinClift: that will be helpful.. I have a list of spurious failures too. We can consolidate our lists and send a note on gluster-devel.
12:41:53 <JustinClift> I've more been just pointing out the major ones, but we can turn a proper hit list
12:41:54 <hchiramm> tigert, these are the 3.7 feature documentation in GlusterFS source code
12:41:56 <hagarth> atinmu: yes, that is in my list.
12:42:07 <atinmu> hagarth, cool
12:42:29 <tigert> ok
12:42:33 <hagarth> JustinClift: let us create an etherpad for this one and strike off issues as we fix
12:42:47 <hagarth> anything more on 3.7?
12:43:29 <hagarth> guess not, moving on.
12:43:33 <hagarth> #topic 4.0
12:43:40 <JustinClift> #info https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-spurious-failures
12:43:42 <jdarcy> Things have been pretty quiet on the 4.0 front because of all the 3.7 activity.  I'll schedule a catch-up meeting next week.
12:43:57 <hagarth> jdarcy: ok
12:44:02 <hagarth> JustinClift: fantastic!
12:44:20 <hagarth> #action jdarcy to schedule a 4.0 catch up meeting next week
12:44:33 <hagarth> anything more for now on 4.0?
12:45:00 <hagarth> guess not, moving on.
12:45:03 <jdarcy> Nope.
12:45:04 <hagarth> #topic Other Agenda items
12:45:12 <hagarth> #topic Fix regression tests with spurious failures
12:45:19 <hagarth> we discussed this right now
12:45:26 <JustinClift> Oops ;)
12:45:28 <jdarcy> Early warning: I'll be in BLR the last week of April.
12:45:41 <hagarth> #action hagarth and JustinClift to send a list of spurious failures to gluster-devel.
12:45:47 <hagarth> jdarcy: look forward to that!
12:45:54 <hagarth> #topic docs
12:46:00 <JustinClift> atinmu: Which branches does 884455.t happen in?
12:46:04 <hagarth> hchiramm: Is this your topic?
12:46:10 <hagarth> JustinClift: that happens on master
12:46:31 <JustinClift> tx
12:46:42 <hagarth> as far as docs are concerned, schandra has staged some good content.
12:46:57 <hagarth> he is looking for more feedback. any help there would be welcome.
12:47:20 <hagarth> #link http://www.gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Staged_Docs
12:47:29 <hagarth> if you have feedback, please let us know.
12:47:39 <hagarth> #topic Awesum Web Presence
12:47:44 <tigert> ok
12:47:54 <tigert> Debloper: you had thoughts?
12:48:01 <hchiramm> hagarth, not really
12:48:03 <tigert> I agree the "divide and conquer" might work, as everyone is busy
12:48:04 <hchiramm> but I can talk .
12:48:06 <jdarcy> I can take a look at 884455.t since I might have written it.
12:48:21 <Debloper> tigert: would like to come back to this with more update next week
12:48:29 <JustinClift> jdarcy: :)
12:48:43 <tigert> Debloper: ok
12:48:46 <Debloper> prototyping what I can show instead of tell.
12:48:51 <hagarth> tigert, Debloper: I am thinking of doing a daily sprint style update on gluster-infra on website revamp.
12:49:13 <Debloper> hagarth: yes, that's sort of what it'll be from tomorrow onwards
12:49:22 <tigert> ok
12:49:27 <hagarth> Debloper: great!
12:49:32 <tigert> so you mean have a discussion going in the list?
12:49:48 <hagarth> for others who are reading this, please follow the website revamp on gluster-infra :)
12:50:03 <hagarth> tigert: I think Debloper intends showcasing daily progress on the revamp.
12:50:15 <tigert> ok
12:50:17 <Debloper> tigert hagarth: yes, updates on list - feedback as github issues (and low-level discussion there)
12:50:29 <Debloper> hagarth: correct
12:50:33 <hagarth> Debloper: great, will look forward to this.
12:50:35 <tigert> currently the site is not on github though
12:50:47 <tigert> but in gitorious (forge)
12:50:58 <Debloper> tigert: I'm working on a separate repo - totally static website
12:51:13 <tigert> Debloper: I do think this is not just a technical issue only
12:51:35 <Debloper> right, I'm looking for contents actually - and aesthetic feedback.
12:51:55 <Debloper> don't think it's much of a technical challenge
12:51:57 <tigert> ie, the current static site works but lacks the content we want to have there
12:52:11 <tigert> making yet another technical skeleton will likely not solve the problem
12:52:28 <tigert> but looking forward to see what you have been doing
12:52:39 <Debloper> there won't be any skeleton - the current website tries to do too many things
12:53:18 <Debloper> I'm keeping the site as the landing page & all other content are either on docs.g or blog.g or in code.g
12:53:27 <Debloper> .g as in .gluster.org
12:53:41 <tigert> yeah
12:53:44 <hagarth> Debloper: showcasing your work will help us, will look forward to that tomorrow.
12:53:47 <tigert> that might make sense yeah
12:53:57 <tigert> and splitting the things into lego bricks
12:54:20 <Debloper> let's see how it goes, thanks! :)
12:54:31 <hagarth> great update, thanks! :)
12:54:36 <hagarth> #topic Gluster Summit Barcelona, second week in May
12:54:39 <hagarth> spot: all yours!
12:55:03 <spot> I have a meeting in 30 minutes to discuss this with Red Hat event planning in EMEA
12:55:15 <spot> still no locked in date or venue, hopefully by the end of this week
12:55:34 <spot> budget paperwork is mostly done though. :)
12:55:46 <hagarth> spot: fantastic!
12:55:48 <tigert> who has plans to go?
12:55:53 <hagarth> tigert: all of us ;)
12:56:00 <tigert> pondering whether the web stuff could be discussed there
12:56:09 <JustinClift> Definitely
12:56:14 <tigert> would be nice to meet in person too to make things more fun :)
12:56:21 <spot> tigert: i think that would be a good topic for it
12:56:22 <JustinClift> The weather should be nice too ;)
12:56:28 <Debloper> tigert++
12:56:38 <jimjag> +1
12:56:39 <kkeithley> Are we back to Barcelona? I heard it was prohibitively expensive
12:56:50 <JustinClift> That's what I was told
12:56:59 <tigert> yeah. shaunm and I do have some scheduling challenges for the proposed dates (12th->) so firming the dates would be appreciated
12:56:59 <spot> kkeithley: from whom did you hear this?
12:57:01 <misc> kkeithley: less than Paris or London, from my own visit around
12:57:15 <Debloper> what other options do we have? where are most of the participants based in?
12:57:18 <JustinClift> spot: That's what Jen was saying in the weekly OSAS Comm meeting
12:57:29 <shaunm> I probably won't be able to do may, but I'll see if I can figure something out
12:57:30 * spot sighs
12:57:38 <hagarth> spot: lot many folks may need to get visa etc. done .. so a general heads up about the dates would be good.
12:57:45 <Debloper> does it _have to_ be in EU?
12:57:46 <spot> hagarth: understood
12:57:59 <Debloper> (not disagreeing, trying to understand)
12:58:03 <spot> if its in IN, the budget spikes for everyone else
12:58:05 <ndevos> Debloper: YES! :D
12:58:10 <spot> if we do it in the US< the budget spikes for everyone else
12:58:15 <Debloper> not saying IN either. :P
12:58:18 <spot> going in the middle is the only real option
12:58:26 <spot> and thats EU. :)
12:58:45 <JustinClift> Right.  Lets all go the other way and fly to Oz? ;p
12:58:49 <hagarth> ok :)
12:58:53 <Debloper> alright, Spain is comparatively cheaper than GER, FRA, UK et al
12:58:56 <spot> unless someone here has sponsorship money they havent told me about. ;)
12:59:00 <JustinClift> :)
12:59:03 * ndevos proposed Amsterdam, it will save on his travel costs
12:59:12 <hagarth> JustinClift: I wouldn't mind being in Oz on the 29th for the World Cup finals ;)
12:59:13 <Debloper> plus, good enough beers (comparing GER)
12:59:20 <JustinClift> Heh Heh Heh
12:59:27 <spot> Barcelona has people on the ground who are willing to help with logistics too
12:59:28 <JustinClift> The 20-odd hour flight tho...
12:59:35 <misc> the office in BCN is quite small however
12:59:40 <Debloper> Amsterdam would be nice (not sure about weather, but it's may - so heck yeah)
12:59:52 <spot> misc: we'd not be in the RHT office
13:00:05 <JustinClift> We'd be in some pubs/smoking-cafe's ;)
13:00:13 <hchiramm> :)
13:00:22 <hagarth> spot: thanks, will look fwd to your update on this one.
13:00:24 <Debloper> moar smoking folks :D
13:00:28 <misc> JustinClift: that's a definition of a office :)
13:00:29 * Debloper will stop :P
13:00:36 <hagarth> last topic for today
13:00:40 <hagarth> #topic Gluster Summer of Code
13:00:52 <hagarth> we missed GSOC, so why not have a Gluster Summer of Code?
13:01:13 <hagarth> we can publish all the great ideas that we have and get some interns help build us features
13:01:20 * ndevos supports that idea
13:01:40 <JustinClift> Name clash tho
13:01:43 <JustinClift> "GSOC"
13:01:45 <Debloper> have enough gears in place for running the program & have enough participation in it, and understanding of how much to achieve?
13:01:53 <hagarth> we can probably have some goodies for the projects that have been implemented the best.
13:01:55 <ndevos> JustinClift: thats the point, right?!
13:01:55 <shaunm> you have funding for that?
13:01:57 <JustinClift> How about something else catchy?  Suggestions welcome type of thing
13:01:58 <JustinClift> Ahh
13:02:00 <hagarth> GlSOC
13:02:17 <hagarth> shaunm: not as much as GSOC, but we can aim to start on a small scale.
13:02:23 <hagarth> GluSOC
13:02:25 <JustinClift> Gluster's Dark Night of Winter Coding
13:02:33 <shaunm> if you want to steer clear of google's legal dept, avoid anything with "Summer of"
13:02:36 <JustinClift> Sounds cooler eh?
13:02:45 <hagarth> JustinClift: of course, it will be winter in the southern hemisphere :D
13:02:51 <JustinClift> :)
13:03:06 <hagarth> shaunm: no worries, Gluster Summer of Code is just an interim name for now.
13:03:25 <spot> worth noting that Fedora offered us one of their actual GSOC seats.
13:03:26 <hagarth> kshlm, spot: your thoughts on this as you folks were most active with the GSOC process?
13:03:30 <spot> (like last year)
13:03:51 <spot> i worry about trying to run a program with 'goodies' as the only participation perk.
13:04:30 <spot> but if people want to try, we can totally try.
13:04:46 <hagarth> spot: yeah, just see how it goes.
13:05:18 <ndevos> goodies, linkedin recommendations and your name on some pieces of code/documentation publicly available should help at least a little
13:05:32 <ndevos> and, work-from-anywhere ;)
13:05:35 <spot> Really, this is kshlm's project, so I'll defer on this one.
13:05:43 <spot> and help as needed.
13:05:58 <hagarth> let us propose this idea on our mailing lists/blog and see the interest?
13:06:38 <hagarth> ok, passing this AI to kshlm :)
13:06:44 <hagarth> #action kshlm to propose gluster winter of code ideas on blog/mailing lists.
13:06:49 <kkeithley> Who was I talking to....  Someone noted that Ceph made t-shirts with the names/email addresses of every non-employee who contributed code or a patch or a BZ. Limited edition
13:07:01 <kkeithley> We might do something similar
13:07:07 <hagarth> kkeithley: we can plan something like that for the Gluster summit.
13:07:14 <hagarth> any more topics for today?
13:07:25 <tigert> kkeithley: yeah I did the design for that
13:07:28 <ndevos> kkeithley: indeed, I have that in my notes to send out too
13:07:37 <tigert> kkeithley: they did a grep of everyone in git
13:07:53 <hagarth> looks like we're done. thanks everyone for attending and tty all next week!
13:07:58 <hagarth> #endmeeting