12:00:12 #startmeeting 12:00:12 Meeting started Wed Sep 2 12:00:12 2015 UTC. The chair is kdhananjay. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:00:37 #info agenda is available @ https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-community-meetings 12:00:46 #topic roll call 12:00:48 * anoopcs is here 12:00:53 * ndevos is present 12:01:00 * hagarth is here 12:01:09 * rjoseph is present 12:01:24 * tigert is in 12:01:35 * partner lurking 12:01:39 * skoduri is here 12:01:46 * jiffin is here 12:02:30 #topic Action items from last week 12:02:51 #topic raghu to fill in the contents for release schedule and ask tigert to push the page in gluster.org 12:03:18 Looks like raghu is not here. 12:03:27 kdhananjay: I think this was done 12:03:40 hagarth: OK great. 12:03:41 raghu doesnt seem to be there? maybe tigert has more info? 12:03:42 here 12:03:54 #link - http://www.gluster.org/community/release-schedule/ 12:04:07 hagarth: Cool! 12:04:18 ah, thanks! 12:04:39 #topic msvbhat/rastar to send update mailing list with a DiSTAF how-to and start discussion on enhancements to DiSTAF. 12:05:15 they posted a start for the improvements in the glusterfs-specs repo 12:05:43 ndevos: safe to say it's done? 12:05:48 #link DiSTAF improvements for review http://review.gluster.org/12048 12:06:00 * msvbhat joins late 12:06:05 kdhananjay: not sure, I would like to see an announcement and request for review on the mailinglist 12:06:13 ndevos: +1 12:06:29 * rafi joins late 12:06:34 ndevos: Will send the review link to mailing list soon 12:06:35 * rastar joins late 12:06:37 * poornimag joins late 12:06:44 msvbhat: okay, thanks! 12:07:04 kdhananjay: so, not done yet, check/remind msvbhat next week again? 12:07:35 #action msvbhat to make announcement on DiSTAF enhabcements and review request on the mailing list 12:07:55 Moving on ... 12:08:02 #topic kshlm to check back with misc on the new jenkins slaves. 12:08:10 kshlm not here. 12:08:18 Does anyone else have an update on this perhaps? 12:09:02 no clue on this one 12:09:05 Err... I guess not. 12:09:16 hagarth: OK. Will retain this for the next week. 12:09:27 #topic kslm to send  out an announcement regarding the approaching deadline for Gluster 3.7 next week. 12:09:42 Think he did this. 12:09:47 thats done, and the release happened too 12:09:59 Great. 12:10:23 packaging is in progress, and when most distributions are ready there will be an announcement 12:10:41 Right. 12:10:50 On to the next topic. 12:10:53 #topic hchiramm to improve release documentation 12:11:01 hchiramm not here/ 12:11:11 Anyone else who has an update on this? 12:11:39 I don't think we made any progress on this 12:11:49 OK. 12:11:53 it needs a discussion too, possibly on open floor? 12:12:01 * raghu arrives late 12:12:01 what is "release documentation"? 12:12:22 Jeff wanted a place for tracking features 12:12:26 feature planning etc 12:12:44 ah, okay -> open floor :) 12:12:47 None of gluster-docs, gluster-spec and glusterfs repo are place for this 12:12:49 ;) 12:13:36 #topic raghu to announce 3.6.5 on mailing lists 12:14:16 * overclk is late to the meeting.. 12:14:17 raghu: ^^ 12:14:52 or for that matter anyone else who has seen this announcement on the lists :) 12:15:12 That's done. 12:15:17 #link http://www.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-devel/2015-August/046570.html 12:15:25 anoopcs: Ah great. Thanks! 12:15:41 Moving on .. 12:15:51 #topic krishnan_p to update Gluster News about Gluster.next progress 12:16:00 krishnan_p absent. 12:16:19 Anyone else who could represent this? 12:16:25 There have been some updates sent for sub-projects. Much appreciated. 12:16:32 its not on https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-weekly-news yet 12:17:14 OK. Adding this for discussion next week. 12:17:24 #action krishnan_p to update Gluster News about Gluster.next progress 12:17:37 #topic krishnan_p to send an email about nanomsg.org to gluster-dev 12:17:45 Saw that. 12:18:02 OK great! 12:18:19 #topic GlusterFS 3.7 12:18:53 Anything to talk about here? 12:19:04 3.7.4 update happened before here. 12:19:15 any volunteers for release manager of 3.7.5? 12:19:58 * ndevos looks at the MAINTAINERS file 12:20:22 we don't have to find one right away. i will post a note on devel asking for volunteers. 12:20:32 maybe we could randomly pick someone from that file? 12:21:29 ndevos: yes, we could do a roulette with names from there :) 12:21:56 hagarth: yeah: git show origin/master:MAINTAINERS | grep '^M:' | sort -u 12:22:06 kdhananjay: that's pretty much about 3.7.x 12:22:32 hagarth: So do we do this in the ML? Or offline? 12:23:03 hagarth: probably try maintainers@gluster.org ? 12:23:15 kdhananjay: will try on gluster-devel 12:23:21 OK. 12:23:54 #action hagarth to post a note on gluster-devel asking for volunteers for the role of release maintainer for 3.7.5 12:24:13 #topic GlusterFS 3.6 12:24:24 raghu: Anything to talk about here? 12:24:43 kdhananjay: nope. Just done with 3.6.5 12:24:51 more backports for 3.6.6 are welcome 12:25:04 will be making 3.6.6. on 20th of september 12:25:21 #info Backports to release-3.6 for towards the 3.6.6 release are welcome. 12:25:40 #info raghu to make 3.6.6 on 20th of September 12:25:49 Moving on .. 12:25:59 #topic GlusterFS 3.5 12:26:21 Does poornimag still need volunteers to help backport glfs_fini patches? 12:26:21 not much progress to report here 12:26:31 ndevos: Cool. 12:26:44 yeah, we still would like to get the backports in, someone would need to work on that 12:27:06 #info poornimag needs help in porting glfs_fini patches to 3.5 12:27:14 regarding this 12:28:01 bug 1134050 contains the list of patches that need backporting... 12:28:36 after discussing with the team, it doesn't sound like backporting is a great idea, and since there are no volunteers yet 12:28:54 i would suggest, i will send a mail on devel 12:29:14 poornimag: OK. Sounds good. 12:29:20 and if there are volunteers keen on putting the required effort will go ahead 12:29:30 else we drop it 12:29:43 poornimag: yeah, thats a good approach 12:30:07 #action poornimag to send a mail on gluster-devel asking for volunteers to backport glfs_fini patches to release-3.5 12:30:07 so the AI on me will be to send a mail on devel and co-ordinate with volunteers if any 12:30:21 poornimag: also, 3.8 might be ready in december or so, users will need to update from 3.5 by then anyway 12:30:38 oh thats good news:) 12:31:10 Alright. Moving on ... 12:31:23 #topic GlusterFS 3.8 12:31:41 hagarth: You have anything to add here? 12:31:59 After discussing with the co-developers i would like to propose Leases feature for 3.8 12:32:10 nothing much atm, I am working on providing more details on 3.8 soon on the MLs. 12:32:15 share reservations/share modes from my side for 3.8 12:32:21 on behalf of skoduri, rjoseph, rtalur 12:32:24 poornimag, rastar: fantastic! 12:33:40 OK then, on to next topic. 12:33:48 #topic GlusterFS 4.0 12:34:01 jdarcy: ^^ 12:34:25 Ohters have sent updates on GlusterD 2.0, DHT 2.0. 12:34:42 I'm still getting back on my feet from multiple vacations, starting to dive in on NSR. 12:35:26 Relatedly, we're having a meetup September 14 @ Facebook HQ, where there seems to be interest in Gluster.Next features. 12:35:36 Dan, Shyam, and I are all going. 12:35:43 Cool! 12:35:49 http://www.meetup.com/GlusterFS-Silicon-Valley/events/224932563/ 12:36:18 we really need a calendar on our website... 12:36:26 +3 12:37:24 jdarcy: that sounds interesting 12:38:05 Should be. Looking forward to seeing who else will be there. 12:38:30 there's also a meetup in BLR on september 12th 12:38:45 http://www.meetup.com/glusterfs-India/events/222201221/ 12:39:00 #info GlusterFS meetup in Bengaluru on September 12th - http://www.meetup.com/glusterfs-India/events/222201221/ 12:39:44 who would like to organise a meeting in Amsterdam? 12:40:35 ... not all at once please! 12:41:59 anything else on 4.0? 12:42:03 Ok, I guess I'll move on to the next topic ;) 12:42:06 hagarth: Nope. 12:42:15 #topic Open Floor 12:42:19 ndevos: Organize? Nope. Attend? Abso-fing-lutely. ;) 12:42:22 * justinclift arrives late 12:42:28 justinclift: :O 12:42:43 rastar: You were saying something about release documentation 12:42:50 * hagarth better late than ... ;) 12:42:51 Now is your time :) 12:42:53 jdarcy: that counts two of us :) 12:42:56 hagarth: Well, I did leave a bunch of stuff still needing to be done… ;) 12:43:24 ndevos: if you sponsor my travel, happy to organize the meetup :D 12:43:36 yes just a min 12:43:59 jdarcy: this is about a place to document release planning 12:43:59 hagarth: I can sponsor your "hotel" :P 12:44:23 we haven't got any good suggestions on that.. 12:44:23 hagarth: I don't have anything to report on that, but it's still something we need. 12:44:49 rastar: I wonder if a summary status page on gluster.org is all what we need 12:44:58 kshlm suggested using gluster.org 12:45:09 hagarth: yes that is what kshlm and I agreed on 12:45:29 jdarcy: what kind of release planning are you thinking of? got examples from other projects? 12:45:34 rastar: sounds good to me. we can always keep that page updated. 12:45:47 but it means changing website 12:45:54 is there some easier alternative? 12:46:02 ndevos: Nothing heavyweight, just a list of subprojects with %done and upcoming milestones. 12:46:06 rastar: I doubt 12:46:13 jdarcy: ah, ok 12:46:14 ndevos: possibly something like this - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/kilo 12:46:53 ok, lets go ahead and try a page on gluster.org 12:47:05 why not use launchpad.net ? like hagarth said.. it has a great method of doing release management and announcements 12:47:06 hagarth: Kind of, but I think it'd be nice to have progress info as well (even if it's a SWAG). 12:48:09 jdarcy: this is probably more relevant - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/liberty 12:48:13 lpabon: I could live with it. I think I even have an account already. 12:48:16 as it is an ongoing dev cycle 12:49:34 hmm, looks interesting 12:49:40 rastar: maybe we should start a discussion on our MLs highlighting various options 12:49:44 Yeah 12:49:49 +1 12:50:10 Launchpad also enables other stuff - like translations - pretty easily 12:50:19 That *might* turn out to be useful 12:50:45 rastar: Would you be taking this up? 12:50:49 and .. sorry to say... a better bug tracker .. >.> 12:50:55 :D 12:51:54 rastar or hchiramm 12:52:15 there is also http://taiga.cloud.fedoraproject.org/ that should provide kanban/scrum like tracking of features 12:52:38 * ndevos hasnt tried it yet, but would be willing to 12:53:24 ok, let us discuss and arrive at a workflow 12:53:28 I'm looking at Taiga and OrangeScrum right now. 12:53:59 ndevos: interesting.. i'll check it out 12:55:37 we've got 5 more minutes left. 12:55:39 justinclift: have you seen the announcement on forge? 12:55:42 kdhananjay: yes, ai on me for sending a mail to start it out 12:55:58 hagarth: No. I tried loading the forge last night, and it wasn’t responding at all 12:56:00 rastar: Cool rastar 12:56:20 hagarth: Figured I better get off my arse and get it done :) 12:56:36 justinclift: rather kshlm's announcement on forge in our MLs 12:56:41 Ahhh 12:56:44 * justinclift goes looking 12:56:53 * justinclift isn’t subscribed any more 12:57:17 If there's already a Fedora-hosted instance of Taiga, that seems like an instant front-runner to me. 12:57:27 #action rastar to initiate discussion on exploring the different approaches towards doing GlusterFS release management and announcements 12:57:40 jdarcy: yeah, I'd like to try that 12:57:40 hagarth: Found it: http://www.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-devel/2015-September/046626.html 12:57:50 justinclift: right, that is the one 12:58:13 2 more minutes to go before we wrap up 12:58:37 hagarth: The migration status for each of the projects is/was tracked in the repo I was working on: https://github.com/gluster/forge/blob/master/old_forge_repos.txt 12:58:49 hagarth: I’m not sure if Kaushal is working from that 12:58:52 justinclift: right, kshlm is looking into that. 12:59:05 justinclift: maybe you can drop him a note for better co-ordination 12:59:09 Yeah 12:59:13 Will do :) 12:59:34 Anything else we want to discuss? 12:59:49 #info REMINDER to put (even minor) interesting topics on https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-weekly-news 12:59:56 #info REMINDER to announce Gluster attendance of events: https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-events 13:00:07 Email to Kaushal sent 13:00:13 justinclift: fantastic, thanks! 13:00:52 OK I guess not. 13:01:01 Thanks everyone for attending the meeting! 13:01:04 kdhananjay: thanks for hosting this meeting! 13:01:05 See you next week. 13:01:08 #endmeeting