<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:01:30
!startmeeting fedora-mobility
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
21:01:34
Meeting started at 2023-11-22 21:01:30 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
21:01:34
The Meeting name is 'fedora-mobility'
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:01:46
!topic Intro / Arrival
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:02:06
Yoda / tor.sh you around for meeting? ;)
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:02:15
yup! hey
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:02:39
o/
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:03:30
So... what shall we talk about? ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:03:37
#topic General discussion
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:03:47
!topic General dicussion
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:04:00
I'm still trying to find folks willing to take up some of my packages.
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:04:12
one person commented on the forum but then I completely dropped the ball
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:04:32
so which packages is that again? as you know I have been burried under, but... I should have some more time during the holidays I hope.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:05:45
I also said I would write a 'state of the sig' type post, but still haven't done it...
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:06:13
well I'm trying to ease out of being a packager because of "reasons" so all of my packages 😂 which is the bulk of Phosh related packages and mobility.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:06:21
I've gotten pretty sad about no actual upstream supported hardware. :( It seems like we are just going to have a remix forever...
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:07:26
yeah, it is like no one want to upstream anything, anymore
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:07:37
I can try and look at the list (although I don't really need more packages to not have time to look at)
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:08:02
we need to figure out, what to do with the defective Phosh images
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:08:35
yeah. drop them in f40 I guess, unless something changes or some ready to keep them for x86 testing... ?
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:08:49
I never had any interest in supporting a remix forever. My goal was to get fedora mobile to be a reality. But it definitely seems DOA now...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:09:05
I did see kde folks were interested in a plasma image again... but... it would have many of the same issues the phosh one does
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:09:33
yes, same here. I wanted remix for a short term shim, but... progress on upstream seems... not.
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:09:33
yup
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:10:09
so I guess I really need to sit down and write up that 'state of things' post...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:10:24
since I don't think people are really aware. Might get more folks/energy/etc
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:11:27
I was also hoping something like openplus6t would get upstream support and we could focus there.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:11:33
But that also seeems... far away.
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:12:23
Indeed...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:13:25
so it's all rather sad and depressing. ;(
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:15:02
A part of my burnout 😅
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:15:17
couldn't keep pushing forced optimism
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:16:04
Well, it can be difficult to continue the Phosh images, if we have no one to update the Phosh packages
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:16:52
indeed.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:17:35
if the packages get orphaned thats that... but also... the phosh images aren't that useful. No initial-setup, no hardware that actually runs them (except I guess some server/soc aarch64 board)
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:17:53
I've never once gotten those images to boot
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:18:01
but at least it seems the KDE Sig will start making plasma-mobile images soon
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:18:21
yeah, but of course it will have the same hardware support issues.
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:18:22
You mean the official one ?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:18:38
yeah.
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:18:42
yes
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:20:03
right - it needs some fixes to be done. Maybe I can take a look at that soon, as there is no more problems with the remixes now
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:20:48
well, there's the 'no initial setup' thing... and some other tweaks, but the big issue is that no mobile hardware would work with the fedora kernel, right?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:21:06
I mean, it might boot, but ppp won't get video or network, and pp might not even boot.
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:21:10
I need to go for a short time - be back in 5-10 min
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:22:45
ok.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:24:48
So, not sure what else to talk about today... If one of you has time to draft up a state of the sig doc that would be awesome, otherwise I can try and do it soon (I am supposed to be off this week, but have family things going on too).
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:25:37
I too have obligatory events scheduled for a while heh...
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:29:27
back again
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:30:07
nothing else from me
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:31:05
ok, if I can draft something up, I can ask for feedback from you both before posting...
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:31:21
thank you for taking that on
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:32:08
it needs doing... not sure it's a restfull vaacation item, but oh well. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:32:17
ok, if nothing else then will close out?
<@tor.sh:matrix.org>
21:32:28
sounds good
<@-yoda:matrix.org>
21:32:34
yes
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:34:14
Thank you both...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
21:34:16
!endmeeting