#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@james:fedora.im>

17:00:53

!startmeeting fpc

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:54

Meeting started at 2024-03-07 17:00:53 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:54

The Meeting name is 'fpc'

<@james:fedora.im>

17:00:59

!topic Roll Call

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:01:45

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:01:47

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@james:fedora.im>

17:02:03

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:02:04

James Antill (james)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:03:48

so... is that it?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:03:56

just James Antill and I?

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:04:24

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:04:25

Nils Philippsen (nphilipp) - he / him / his

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

17:05:04

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:05:06

Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:05:14

.hi

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:05:31

Sorry my keyboard is being weird so i switched to my phone

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:06:00

Me being here is more of a drive-by thing, I have a question about compat package (non-)reviews which I didn’t find the answer for in the docs

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:06:23

Gwyn Ciesla (she/her): exclamation point rather than period for bot commands :)

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:07:07

So I'm not emphatic enough...

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:07:10

But I don’t want to be in the way for more important conversations 😉

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:07:11

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:07:12

Gwyn Ciesla (limb) - she / her / hers

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:07:37

But I don’t want to be in the way of more important conversations 😉

<@james:fedora.im>

17:08:08

nils: If anything important happened here we'd all run away

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:09:54

I think the only thing we have to really discuss right now is the fXX-backgrounds package review exception

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:09:57

!fpc 1340

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:09:58

**packaging-committee #1340** (https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1340):**Review Process Exception for f40-backgrounds** ● **Opened:** a day ago by luya ● **Last Updated:** 14 hours ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:10:12

well, TIL that we don't have that shortcut

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:10:16

oh hey we do!

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:10:32

undocumented shortcuts ftw

<@james:fedora.im>

17:10:48

Indeed ... I was sure that didn't work :)

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:11:21

Or how to type a continuous string of "4" you just need a 2 year old orange cat.

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:11:50

That’s oddly specific

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:12:16

So is he. :)

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:13:14

There should really be a11y settings to catproof a keyboard.

<@james:fedora.im>

17:13:38

I think we can close 1340 ... unless we need/want to vote on documenting a permanent exception?

<@james:fedora.im>

17:14:11

Gwyn Ciesla (she/her): https://www.amazon.com/QQ-Acrylic-Keyboard-Protector-Anti-Cat/dp/B07WWBFL6J

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:14:11

I don't think there's a reason to vote specifically on the permanent exception, I'm pretty sure this is the third time we've approved it

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:14:19

we should just update the doc accordingly

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:14:24

Agreed.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:14:52

I just figure we should just say it in here that it's officially officially approved for realsies

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:14:58

I have enough cats to justify a dsoftware solution.

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:15:20

4rills

<@james:fedora.im>

17:15:55

I give my official +1

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:16:07

+1 as well

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:16:30

Carl George: ?

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

17:16:44

just did a `+1` in the ticket

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:16:48

I think we can assume f52-backgrounds won't suddenly include malware or proprietary code

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:17:02

okay

<@james:fedora.im>

17:17:24

!topic Nils question about compat package (non-)reviews

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:17:31

!agreed The package review exception for `fXX-backgrounds` is approved. Again. For real, this time. The documentation will be updated to indicate this. (+5, 0, 0)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:17:49

yay races :)

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:17:58

Now important business is out of the way… I want to package the current libgit2 as a compat package libgit2_1.7 for EPEL8 (it’s one of the missing deps for rpmautospec). AIUI I don’t need to review it but I’m at a loss how I would then get the repo created – I wouldn’t have a review but or exception ticket to point to.

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:18:15

Now important business is out of the way… I want to package the current libgit2 as a compat package libgit2\_1.7 for EPEL8 (it’s one of the missing deps for rpmautospec). AIUI I don’t need to review it but I’m at a loss how I would then get the repo created – I wouldn’t have a review bug or exception ticket to point to.

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:18:29

--exception

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:18:32

you use `fedpkg request-repo --exception --no-initial-commit libgit2_1.7`

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:18:45

--beat_me_to_it

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:18:49

(you can also choose to not have `--no-initial-commit` if you don't want to push the history from the original package)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:19:16

See freerdp2 as an example: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/freerdp2

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:19:35

You mean I can just do it, like that? 🫰

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:19:41

yes

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:19:46

Wow

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:19:53

releng will have to accept the request manually, but after that, that's it

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:19:54

Too easy

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:20:05

the trick is that it requires releng review every time

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:20:12

Aaaaah so I’ll just put a note in the created ticket then

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

17:20:16

super easy, barely an inconvenience

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:20:21

though we _really_ should add a requirement to document the reason for the request

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:20:43

There's at least one releng approver in this convo right now.

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:20:49

True

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:21:01

that way the mysql8.0 mess that happened a few weeks ago wouldn't have happened

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:21:09

hello! sorry for being late.

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:21:13

Yeah if I hadn’t noticed you all having the meeting I’d have poked Carl directly 😁

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:21:18

I hope you have a note.

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:22:18

Okay, I’ll run fedrq and put a note in the request ticket, gotcha. Many thanks!

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:22:29

nphilipp gave a cookie to james. They now have 41 cookies, 4 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:22:42

nphilipp gave a cookie to limb. They now have 26 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:22:46

nphilipp gave a cookie to ngompa. They now have 112 cookies, 10 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:23:00

just keep in mind that choosing whether to have the old git history or not influences the options you pick for `fedpkg request-repo`

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:23:09

nphilipp gave a cookie to carlwgeorge. They now have 47 cookies, 13 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:23:16

I prefer the old history, but some people don't

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:23:42

Aaah, makes sense

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:23:59

Aaah, makes sense

<@nphilipp:fedora.im>

17:24:19

Content scrolling under the pointer doesn’t help 😂

<@james:fedora.im>

17:24:28

!topic Open Floor

<@james:fedora.im>

17:24:42

Anyone have anthing else they want to talk about?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:26:33

Nothing from me.

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:27:15

I want to talk about that too.

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:28:22

Nothing.

<@james:fedora.im>

17:30:58

Okay, I'll give y'all 30 minutes back then

<@james:fedora.im>

17:31:03

!endmeeting