#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:08:23

!startmeeting fedora_cloud_meeting`

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:08:24

Meeting started at 2024-04-25 15:08:23 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:08:24

The Meeting name is 'fedora_cloud_meeting`'

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:08:35

!topic roll call

<@mhayden:fedora.im>

15:10:11

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:10:12

Major Hayden (mhayden) - he / him / his

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:11:24

!topic Action items from last meeting

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:13:16

sorry I am slow. double book.

<@mhayden:fedora.im>

15:13:37

I know that feeling well

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:14:06

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:14:08

Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:14:11

(also double book)

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:15:21

* Neil Hanlon to explore testing options with Zuul. * update the website code to include the new images and containers * davdunc to add a ticket for the required website changes.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:15:55

i totally forgot about the ticket until I looked at that.

<@mhayden:fedora.im>

15:16:34

The zuul testing -- are we thinking about testing the Fedora images on the clouds themselves?

<@mhayden:fedora.im>

15:16:48

(If so that is awesome)

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:17:04

yea. I want us to move in that direction mhayden

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:17:16

we need to have better actions there.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:17:42

right now. . . I think we should celebrate the work that Jeremy Cline did for the cloud-image-uploader.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:17:50

that's the first real step.

<@mhayden:fedora.im>

15:18:15

I am inCLINEd to celebrate that. 🎉

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:18:46

🎉

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:18:57

:D yep that is the ultimate goal (IMO)

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:19:05

something something gating something

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:19:20

Jeremy Cline ++

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:19:22

neil gave a cookie to jcline. They now have 77 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 40 release cycle

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:19:29

fresh cookies!

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:20:03

cool. I think that we are all on the same page there, though I don't think we should be remiss in building much more support for the smoke testing that Conan Kudo put in place around the kiwi descriptions too.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:21:15

ideally the workflow ends up being that when a change is proposed to the descriptions, we can build images from that branch and do regression testing against it to detect breakages/changes early (again, IMO)

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:22:56

yea.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:24:13

so let's move to a topic.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:24:22

!topic name modifications.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:24:33

!undo

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:24:48

!topic Image Name modifications

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:26:18

We need to update some of the scripts around the web and such, so ...I am going to re-action myself right now to introduce those changes to the scripts that are running now.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:26:46

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:26:51

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:26:52

As a result of the kiwi descriptions and interactions with koji, we have some name changes.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:26:57

Hey Conan Kudo !

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:27:08

can you help me articulate on this one?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:27:44

mainly the subformat variant filenames (vagrant, vhd, etc.) have slightly different names in kiwi from imgfac

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:28:12

I think adamw was going to rework some of it to be renamed at the pungi level, but that didn't happen yet, I think?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:28:27

so since we released as is, the naming of some of the images differs from their predecessors

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:29:17

it should be a one-time pain to adapt

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:29:52

we did also change the way we handle images too... we now have a "Generic" flavor, but each cloud target gets its own flavor now

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:30:19

this means that once we onboard a public cloud system and package their tools, we can create a flavor optimized for that cloud

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:32:23

we also now have the capability of aliasing or stacking on flavors in the kiwi descriptions

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:32:40

both the unbuilt Oracle and OpenStack flavors are aliases to the Generic flavor, for example

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:33:37

thanks Conan Kudo

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:34:38

So we need to make sure that we are updating the web pages to reflect this and need a blog post to help others.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:35:15

I think some of this was outlined in the cloud-sig ticket I made?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:35:31

!pagureissue cloud-sig 418

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:35:33

**cloud-sig #418** (https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/418):**Kiwi built cloud image integration - remaining tasks** ● **Opened:** a month ago by ngompa ● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:37:31

ahem. i said it should happen. i didn't say i was going to it

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:37:35

ahem. i said it should happen. i didn't say i was going to do it

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:37:41

lol okay

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:37:46

fun as it is fixing stuff for other people, i *am* supposed to be the qa guy, remember...

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:37:53

fair fair

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:38:06

but since we released with all the filename changes as-is, I think it's probably _fine_ now

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:38:11

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:38:19

the major issue that needs fixing is that the beta images need to have Beta in the name

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:38:25

oh that, yes

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:38:28

remember, that's why we had to start the final RCs at 12 or whatever

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:38:32

right

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:38:45

so koji and pungi needs to be taught about the new kiwi format thingy

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:38:52

yeah, in a nutshell

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:39:08

could you file a ticket in cloud-sig about that specifically?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:39:16

sure

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:39:39

perfect. okay. so we need to focus not on updating the old image names for the website, just our new ones.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:41:53

!topic add new regions for Amazon

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:42:06

!link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/422

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:42:11

imagefac thing.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:42:24

!action davdunc to update the config for hopefully the last time.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:44:21

!topic Fedora Cloud Test Day

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:44:27

!link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/419

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:44:32

We missed on this one.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:45:58

we need to make sure that we get a stronger commitment and get the dates right.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:47:13

anything else to say on that one?

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:47:38

nothing aside from agreement

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:48:15

okay. Our process doesn't really include a release announcement list and we need to support the Fedora project that way.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:48:37

This should really be getting smashed with our on-cloud validations.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:49:02

but we need a checklist for every release.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:49:12

just without question.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:49:43

that should be a part of our living cloud-sig documentation and maybe branched for each release.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:50:24

!topic Google agent packages orphaned and retired breaking GCE image

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:50:35

!link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/421

<@mhayden:fedora.im>

15:50:37

_done fixed this one right up_

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:50:45

thank you mhayden !

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:50:48

appreciate it.

<@mhayden:fedora.im>

15:50:56

had to learn some vendoring magic

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:51:09

this is in the cloud-sig packages now, right, so we should attack it as a group.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:51:17

You shouldn't be responsible alone.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:51:28

but 👏

<@mhayden:fedora.im>

15:51:59

with the vendoring, it's not terrible

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:51:59

it's not a fun package to continue to support and with the next generation, I want you to have more support on this.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:52:08

okay cool.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:52:16

awesome.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:52:24

so we can close the ticket?

<@mhayden:fedora.im>

15:52:32

let's close it!

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:53:26

yea!

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:53:38

awesome.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:53:51

!open floor

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:53:56

!topic open floor

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:54:31

!info Linuxfest Northwest is this week. Stay tuned for more talk about building with kiwi descriptions.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:54:57

!cfp for Devconf.us and Flock

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:55:13

!info cfps for Devconf.us and Flocktofedora

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:55:56

Anything else you want to bring up?

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:56:25

one thing i don't think we mentioned is the azure image uploader is still erroring out

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:56:29

(i think)

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:56:34

Neil Hanlon: yes.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:56:56

I think I will throw a PR in to force this when we call ansible from python... as that's about the only spaghetti i can think of

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:57:01

we need to update the content. Jeremy Cline found some complications in the fedroa-messaging.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:57:07

thanks.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:57:29

i am not sure how to then make that go to openshift... but I will nag nirik : )

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:57:41

Neil Hanlon: that would be great.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:57:43

thanks.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:58:53

!info lots of things to smooth out here after this last deployment. Let's get it done.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:59:18

if there's nothing else, let's get out of the way for the next meeting.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

15:59:27

!endmeeting