<@james:fedora.im>
16:00:06
!startmeeting fpc
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:06
Meeting started at 2024-04-25 16:00:06 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:06
The Meeting name is 'fpc'
<@james:fedora.im>
16:00:09
!topic Roll Call
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:00:16
neil gave a cookie to davdunc. They now have 30 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 40 release cycle
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:00:21
Hey.
<@limb:fedora.im>
16:00:33
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:00:34
Gwyn Ciesla (limb) - she / her / hers
<@james:fedora.im>
16:00:41
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:00:42
James Antill (james)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:01:11
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:01:15
Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:01:26
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:01:28
Fabio Valentini (decathorpe) - he / him / his
<@james:fedora.im>
16:05:30
Well, we have five ... so just going to start.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:05:46
!topic FPC#1356 - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1356
<@james:fedora.im>
16:06:15
I think tibbs comment is good here, and we can just move this to needinfo or waiting on someone or something?
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:06:48
yeah. if https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/917 can be rebased that would be great
<@james:fedora.im>
16:09:35
!topic PR#1361 - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1361
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:09:46
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:09:49
Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:10:02
I certainly don't feel confident to write the guidelines here, or review them for correctness.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:10:21
I could rework the PR so it at least applies but not do anything useful.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:10:43
I guess we are doing this, so +1 and we should merge it ... although it'd be good if we completely removed absolute paths from running programs in all our examples (systemd files etc.)
<@james:fedora.im>
16:12:09
You don't think to current PR is enough/correct?
<@james:fedora.im>
16:12:39
Having missed some stuff is whatever ... we can't be perfect, esp. with a change this size.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:15:11
Wait ... were you talking about the minisign thing?
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:16:05
Yes, sorry.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:16:16
I got behind.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:16:25
Yes, 1361 is fine with me.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:19:42
!topic PR#1362 - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1362
<@james:fedora.im>
16:20:12
Seems simple enough. Going to hit merge on this unless anyone speaks up.
<@limb:fedora.im>
16:20:24
Go for it
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:20:33
seems reasonable
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:20:45
authentication is still the wrong term :D
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:20:51
welll
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:20:55
it says authentication of the server
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:21:12
don't care
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:21:16
strip the sentence out then
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:21:17
that's just ... weird
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:21:28
this is just going to confuse people
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:21:41
and frankly we don't actually care about connection authenticity that much
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:21:45
we care about source integrity
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:22:01
this rule would have been a no-brainer without that false phrasing added
<@james:fedora.im>
16:22:11
!topic PR#1363 - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1363
<@james:fedora.im>
16:22:37
Conan Kudo: I merged before I saw your comment ... feel free to clean up the wording.
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:23:40
LGTM
<@james:fedora.im>
16:23:42
I think I would like Fabio Valentini to ack this ... but it doesn't seem insane to me
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:23:43
1363 seems fine to me. There is so much magic down in there.
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:24:34
I only have one Go package left to me, but it already uses "gometa -f" for ages
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:24:41
so yeah the changes are fine
<@james:fedora.im>
16:24:52
!topic Open Floor
<@james:fedora.im>
16:25:26
Wow ... that's quite the offload you managed ;)
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:25:36
Should we be waiting for this mystery change request before doing anything about https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1360 ?
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:26:10
🤫 I am building with vendored deps now 🤫
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:26:11
yes
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:26:28
It kind of seems harmless to just merge it, but it was kind of done in an odd way.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:26:31
the change proposal went to the lists yesterday I think
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:26:36
we should wait
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:27:14
I commented on it
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:27:19
And I would still like to see Miro comment on https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1358
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:27:46
on the list I mean - seems slightly problematic. Java bytecode is not static (though very slow moving) so there should still be a way to specify some version requirements even on a "library" containing bytecode
<@james:fedora.im>
16:35:36
Anything else?
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:36:22
Not from me.
<@limb:fedora.im>
16:37:30
nope
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:37:57
nö
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:38:39
the umlauts make it very definitive
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:38:53
nope
<@limb:fedora.im>
16:39:08
And metal.
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:39:28
funnily enough, "nö" is just colloquial German for "no"
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:39:38
that's gonna look fun in the logs
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:39:46
ah, like ouay is colloquial French for oui
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:40:08
ah aieouy
<@james:fedora.im>
16:40:14
If they didn't want me to use rainbow commands, they shouldn't have given them to me
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:40:22
so nö is nah in English?
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:40:30
something like that yeah
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:40:43
though only used in Germany, not really in other German-speaking parts of Europe.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:40:57
!endmeeting