2024-06-06 15:04:36 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora_cloud_meeting
2024-06-06 15:04:37 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-06-06 15:04:36 UTC
2024-06-06 15:04:37 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_cloud_meeting'
2024-06-06 15:04:47 <@davdunc:fedora.im> #topic roll call 
2024-06-06 15:04:52 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic roll call 
2024-06-06 15:04:59 <@davdunc:fedora.im> forgot where I was. 
2024-06-06 15:05:33 <@jcline:fedora.im> !hi
2024-06-06 15:05:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jeremy Cline (jcline) - he / him / his
2024-06-06 15:05:40 <@wombelix:matrix.org> !hi
2024-06-06 15:05:43 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Dominik Wombacher (wombelix) - he / him / his
2024-06-06 15:06:08 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-06-06 15:06:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-06-06 15:07:30 <@davdunc:fedora.im> hi everybody. 
2024-06-06 15:08:20 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic Action items from last meeting
2024-06-06 15:08:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> * ACTION: davdunc to book a hackfest on the calendar so we have a time to review
2024-06-06 15:08:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> changes.
2024-06-06 15:09:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I just haven't found a time that would work for me honestly. 
2024-06-06 15:09:27 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we're realistically not going to be able to have one for a month
2024-06-06 15:09:38 <@davdunc:fedora.im> yea. I think that's right. 
2024-06-06 15:09:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> both you and I will simply be unavailable until at least July
2024-06-06 15:09:47 <@davdunc:fedora.im> yeap. 
2024-06-06 15:09:53 <@davdunc:fedora.im> it's true. 
2024-06-06 15:10:09 <@wombelix:matrix.org> Not much different for me too ;)
2024-06-06 15:10:31 <@davdunc:fedora.im> since you will be _all_ of the same places... yes. 
2024-06-06 15:10:34 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi 
2024-06-06 15:10:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-06-06 15:10:45 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Hey Neil Hanlon 
2024-06-06 15:10:47 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> sorry... traveling today (supposed to be going to my gate)
2024-06-06 15:10:53 <@davdunc:fedora.im> all good. 
2024-06-06 15:10:53 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Heya folks 
2024-06-06 15:10:57 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we know you are with us. 
2024-06-06 15:11:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> uploads
2024-06-06 15:11:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> * ACTION: davdunc to review with Oracle contacts what we can do for Fedora Cloud
2024-06-06 15:11:08 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> instead I'm having a drink in the lounge 
2024-06-06 15:11:32 <@davdunc:fedora.im> They canceled our bi-weekly meeting, so I missed the folks I expected to connect with. 
2024-06-06 15:11:34 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> lmk if you need a hand with that. I have some oracle people I can poke as well 
2024-06-06 15:11:35 <@davdunc:fedora.im> reactioning. 
2024-06-06 15:12:02 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to review with Oracle contacts what we can do for Fedora Cloud uploads.
2024-06-06 15:12:19 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. there it is in bold letters! 
2024-06-06 15:12:42 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/400
2024-06-06 15:13:00 <@davdunc:fedora.im> * ACTION: Jeremy Cline will write up a comment for ticket #399 and close it as done
2024-06-06 15:13:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Did we get this one closed down? 
2024-06-06 15:13:14 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I remember it as a yes. 
2024-06-06 15:13:15 <@jcline:fedora.im> It was tough, but I got it done
2024-06-06 15:13:19 <@davdunc:fedora.im> thanks! 
2024-06-06 15:13:26 <@zodbot:fedora.im> davdunc has already given cookies to jcline during the F40 timeframe
2024-06-06 15:14:09 <@davdunc:fedora.im> * ACTION: davdunc to write a change proposal for the XCP-NG Fedora Image
2024-06-06 15:15:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Stephen J Smoogen gave me a lot of internal projects this past week that kept me on my toes and answering questions for management this week. I need more time. 
2024-06-06 15:15:52 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to write a change proposal for the XCP-NG Fedora Image
2024-06-06 15:16:32 <@davdunc:fedora.im> same with  btrfs boot partition
2024-06-06 15:16:46 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to write a change proposal for btrfs boot partition
2024-06-06 15:18:06 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. 
2024-06-06 15:18:34 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Anything else we need to talk about from last week? Actions that didn't get actually actioned? 
2024-06-06 15:18:54 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic #426 Identify a git forge shepard for the coming transition to forgejo for the Cloud WG
2024-06-06 15:18:54 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/426
2024-06-06 15:19:18 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic #426 Identify a git forge shepard for the coming transition to forgejo for the Cloud WG
2024-06-06 15:19:44 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we need someone who will handle any comms on that front. 
2024-06-06 15:19:48 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I know it's a long way off. 
2024-06-06 15:20:02 <@wombelix:matrix.org> `coming transition to forgejo` doesn't seem to be accurate when there are just started the evaluation what might be the next solution some day
2024-06-06 15:20:06 <@davdunc:fedora.im> but better to have a wrangler now for us all. 
2024-06-06 15:21:13 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. Dominik Wombacher (wombelix) you think it's not time to consider this until we have an assignment? 
2024-06-06 15:21:49 <@wombelix:matrix.org> I think it's so undefined and far away that there isn't actually anything useful to do for the foreseeable future 
2024-06-06 15:21:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I am personally doing my best to focus on pagure as the choice. :) I know you have been too. 
2024-06-06 15:22:10 <@davdunc:fedora.im> everybody else feel the same way? 
2024-06-06 15:23:07 <@jcline:fedora.im> Yeah, my impression was there still wasn't a decision between forgejo and gitlab, never mind a transition date
2024-06-06 15:24:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I suppose that I was just expecting it to move quickly. 
2024-06-06 15:25:33 <@jcline:fedora.im> I wish there was something to do, but I stopped following the situation ~5 years ago and well... it seems to be about where it was back then.
2024-06-06 15:25:44 <@davdunc:fedora.im> yea. 
2024-06-06 15:26:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> there is a sense of urgency, but I feel it to engage on making pagure better. 
2024-06-06 15:27:24 <@wombelix:matrix.org> pagure has such a bad press because it was basically killed years ago, not sure if we can turn it around. But that's not necessarily the topic. Whatever happens, right now there isn't a decision made or anything we can/have to do.
2024-06-06 15:27:32 <@wombelix:matrix.org> from a Cloud SIG perspective at least
2024-06-06 15:29:03 <@davdunc:fedora.im> yea, we just need to be up on the news and ready to migrate when the time comes. It sounds like we all feel like we have enough of a sense of this as "distant future" that we don't need anyone to coordinate just yet. 
2024-06-06 15:29:32 <@wombelix:matrix.org> correct
2024-06-06 15:30:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. I'll close that ticket and we can cross that bridge when we come to it. 
2024-06-06 15:30:35 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to close issue #400 
2024-06-06 15:30:48 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !undo
2024-06-06 15:30:54 <@davdunc:fedora.im> can I do that. 
2024-06-06 15:30:59 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> would be better if it were issue 404...
2024-06-06 15:31:10 <@davdunc:fedora.im> haha. it's actually 426
2024-06-06 15:31:19 <@davdunc:fedora.im> but I just missed on that. 
2024-06-06 15:31:28 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I don't think undo works :/
2024-06-06 15:31:29 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I blame my glasses. 
2024-06-06 15:31:50 <@davdunc:fedora.im> and the pretty font in my notes around the hyperlink 
2024-06-06 15:32:28 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I am also going to close the 395 for moving to the current gitlab. 
2024-06-06 15:33:01 <@davdunc:fedora.im> everything else I have is no longer relevant. 
2024-06-06 15:33:19 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic cloud-image-uploader status check
2024-06-06 15:33:32 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Jeremy Cline: how are you feeling about it? 
2024-06-06 15:34:05 <@jcline:fedora.im> (I'm double meeting) things are moving along, I'm working on publishing messages for new images so we can test them
2024-06-06 15:34:22 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Should we be more aggressive about the other providers now? 
2024-06-06 15:34:24 <@jcline:fedora.im> I'd like to move the AWS images along if possible, I know infra wants to get rid of fedimg
2024-06-06 15:34:50 <@wombelix:matrix.org> That's on me, no time yet to work on the Ansible roles for it
2024-06-06 15:35:11 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Dominik Wombacher (wombelix): thanks for taking on the effort. 
2024-06-06 15:35:57 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Let's reconvene on that in July for you. 
2024-06-06 15:36:05 <@wombelix:matrix.org> no problem but there will not much progress before end of the month or begin next month. if someone has bandwidth and can get it done faster, be my guest. Otherwise I'm happy to work on it as soon the Event stress is over.
2024-06-06 15:36:36 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I'll follow up in a week or so; I might have some work folks I can ask to contribute :)
2024-06-06 15:37:10 <@davdunc:fedora.im> super. 
2024-06-06 15:37:13 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> (read: I've been telling them to get involved for a few weeks now)
2024-06-06 15:37:13 <@davdunc:fedora.im> thanks Neil 
2024-06-06 15:37:41 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Any other topics that we want to cover specifically? 
2024-06-06 15:37:53 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic open floor
2024-06-06 15:38:35 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !info Cloud Infrastructure Users Meetup at Devconf.cz on 06-13
2024-06-06 15:38:41 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://pretalx.com/devconf-cz-2024/talk/YTLQNT/
2024-06-06 15:40:47 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !info Building Fedora Cloud Images with Kiwi at Devonf.cz on 6-13
2024-06-06 15:40:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://pretalx.com/devconf-cz-2024/talk/8YKBCR/
2024-06-06 15:41:53 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !info Which Image Builder is the fairest of them all? 
2024-06-06 15:42:02 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://pretalx.com/devconf-cz-2024/talk/ZB9NCL/
2024-06-06 15:42:50 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Anything else we want to announce or discuss? 
2024-06-06 15:43:16 <@jcline:fedora.im> I got nothing
2024-06-06 15:43:24 <@davdunc:fedora.im> awesome! 
2024-06-06 15:43:29 <@wombelix:matrix.org> nothing fedora cloud related from me
2024-06-06 15:43:35 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Let's get out a little early then. 
2024-06-06 15:43:56 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Thanks everyone for being here. Thanks Neil Hanlon for sharing a drink with us at the airport. 
2024-06-06 15:44:06 <@davdunc:fedora.im> :D
2024-06-06 15:44:15 <@wombelix:matrix.org> thanks all, have a nice rest of the day
2024-06-06 15:44:25 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !endmeeting