#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:00:23

!startmeeting EPEL (2024-07-10)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

18:00:24

Meeting started at 2024-07-10 18:00:23 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

18:00:24

The Meeting name is 'EPEL (2024-07-10)'

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:00:31

!meetingname epel

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

18:00:32

The Meeting Name is now epel

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:00:37

!topic aloha

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:00:39

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:00:40

Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:00:43

!hi

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:00:44

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:00:44

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:00:46

Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his

<@jrichardson:matrix.org>

18:00:54

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:00:56

James Richardson (jrichardson)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:00:56

Hi Michel Lind 🎩 Conan Kudo and Carl George

<@davide:cavalca.name>

18:00:57

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:00:59

Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:01:10

Hi James Richardson and Davide Cavalca

<@smooge:fedora.im>

18:02:21

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:02:30

morning

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:02:40

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:03:10

(misclick sorry)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:03:20

Morning nirik

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:04:06

Hi Stephen J Smoogen and Mister Neil Hanlon Misclick. :)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:05:14

!topic End Of Life (EOL)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:05:19

RHEL 7 / epel-7 went EOL on 2024-06-30

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:05:30

- File releng issue to EOL epel7 - carl

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:05:30

- have epel8-release obsolete epel8-next - carl

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:05:30

- Close bugzillas - tdawson

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:05:30

- Write-up SOP - Smooge

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:05:35

okay maybe I'm really here. i thought i clicked into the wrong meeting cause it wasn't showing me any messages lol

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:05:53

I just use my fedora.im account for all Fedora meetings :P

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:06:08

using it from a federated instance is just too glitchy for anything that requires fast replies

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:06:11

yeahhh i should probably get in that habit

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:06:22

I have closed all the epel7 bugzilla's.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:06:50

And, sorry about the wierd \n in the majority of the messages. I really should have done one, then looked at it before blasting through.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:06:59

thanks for closing all the epel7 bugs

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:07:10

it flooded my email a bit, but I still appreciate it :)

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:07:33

yeah, I can now look at my Django stack bugs and know everything is actionable :D

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:08:19

yeah, +1, thanks for closing.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:08:31

Carl's epel8-release has made it through to stable, so that is done.

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:09:10

i still owe Stephen J Smoogen a review of the sop pr, i started going through and had a few thoughts but haven't written them all down

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:09:42

Same with me (about smooges pr)

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:09:49

I still owe a PR for Django policy, which is timely because some CVEs just got announced yesterday

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:09:59

(thank you Neil Hanlon for putting up a PR for the main Django package)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:11:55

I started retagging epel7 builds in, but my laptop crashed last night, so will need to resume it

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:11:57

Stephen J Smoogen 's pull request - https://pagure.io/epel/pull-request/280

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:12:30

Thank you nirik ... have you got the script that keeps untagging them, stopped, or properly configured?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:13:56

yep

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:14:12

and that script is going away anyhow, the new one will use 'active' releases from bodhi

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:14:29

Oh, that sounds like a better idea.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:15:16

Any other EOL stuff before we move on?

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:15:29

Yes

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:16:27

!link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11292#comment-916924

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:17:08

we never actually archived epel8-modular or reconfigured mirrormanager to point at said archive

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:17:51

Ourch

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:17:58

Ouch

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:18:57

not a huge priority (it's waited this long) but definitely worth resolving eventually

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:19:00

well, no one seems to have cared, but sure.

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:19:21

there are definitely still requests for epel-modular-8 in countme data

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:20:25

Did you want to open a seperate issue? Or were you planning on re-opening that one?

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:20:41

it's re-opened

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:21:24

I'm obvervant. :)

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:21:40

just bring it up for awareness, we can move on

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:21:46

OK, I've put that on our list of things to report on next week.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:22:02

And moving on.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:22:11

!topic EPEL Issues https://pagure.io/epel/issues

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:22:17

https://pagure.io/epel/issues?tags=meeting&status=Open

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:22:30

We don't have any issues marked as meeting

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:22:46

But we do have the clamav update we were going to talk about.

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:23:35

oh fun

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:24:09

He did send an email, saying what he was going to do. Do we feel it is good enough?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:24:40

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/EC7IWSDEYYQQS4MQQ4OJYIMEB4RWIBFU/

<@smooge:fedora.im>

18:25:40

having dealt with and tried to maintain clamav in the past.. I think its fine

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:25:52

good enough for the "send email to epel-devel" step, sure, but there are other steps

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:26:03

did the dependent packages get rebuilt?

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:26:09

in particular, there are packages that need to be rebuilt with it

<@smooge:fedora.im>

18:26:09

this is not an easy package to deal with and pretty much any update can be world-breaking but if you don't update you are leaving people in worse case

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:26:22

we also added the requirement to file an epel issue for steering committee vote

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:26:42

so... since no issue is filed yet... what should we do here

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:26:47

remind on the list?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:27:02

Neither of the dependant packages have been rebuilt.

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:27:05

in general i'm in favor of an incompat update here because of the nature of the software, but we have the steps for a reason

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:27:16

yeah

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:27:26

Ya, let's remind them on the email list.

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:27:29

this maintainer has a bit of a history with ignoring policies

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:27:46

related pr i did recently https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/91

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:29:00

So, it sounds like the answer to my question is No. They have not met the criteria.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:29:23

yeah, someone should remind of next steps on the list.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:30:03

Anyone want to volunteer? Or should I do it?

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:34:23

for clarity, what Neal and I are talking about is that the EPEL 7 version is still listed on the summary page

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:35:13

I do not think that is it.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:35:40

all epel7 packages are eol in pdc.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:36:10

`https://src.fedoraproject.org/_dg/bodhi_updates/rpms/python-django?html=1` is the query url

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:36:38

That's why they all got untagged isn't it? Because the pdc said they were EOL

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:36:48

yep.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:36:58

so, this may be in pagure-dist-git or something. Not sure

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:38:00

Is there any other Old Business?

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:38:48

is epel10 progress old biz or does it have its own section now?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:38:59

ha ha ha. it's even silliler than that.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:39:14

it's querying packager-dashboard.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:39:24

lol

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:39:28

Carl George: We can give it it's own section. Do you want it before or after Old Business?

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:39:43

whatever is easiest

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:40:28

well epel 10 is going to be new

<@salimma:fedora.im>

18:40:34

so before old business? :P

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:40:48

it's old in that we've talked about it previously

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:41:22

Both are correct .... I've put it before Old Business ... mainly because it's something we're going to need to bring up each week.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:41:59

!topic EPEL 10

<@jrichardson:matrix.org>

18:43:03

Should we link the hack.md doc?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:44:18

Quick update on status of CentOS Stream 10. It's looking better, and finally has an updated kernel. But we just noticed (thanks to Miro) that none of the remove packages from the composes, were removed from the mirrors.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:44:47

James Richardson: We could. Can you give the link.

<@jrichardson:matrix.org>

18:45:03

https://hackmd.io/q6TNkYjJT82EtzhlyPGpog

<@jrichardson:matrix.org>

18:45:03

Yes sir

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:45:55

So, give us a few days/ a week, so we can clean out the packages that need to be cleaned out.

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:46:32

i posted an status update and timeline to discourse and email

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:46:34

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/epel-10-status-update/124549

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:47:12

cool!

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:47:19

very detailed... kudos!

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:47:40

Thank you very much.

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:47:59

diego's fedpkg changes got merged, and also backported to the fedpkg package, and are available as fedpkg-1.45-2

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:48:02

!link https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=fedpkg-1.45-2

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:49:11

the key there is allowing requests of epel10 and epel10.x branches (which won't work yet, but this is one side of it)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:50:53

Is there any other EPEL 10 stuff?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:51:13

We're getting a little low on time and I want to make sure we have enough for Open Floor.

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:51:42

i think that's it for now. next up is doing similar branch request work in the scm toddler.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:51:59

I don't have anything either :)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:52:04

Thank you Carl, James and DIege.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:52:20

And everyone else working on the epel10 effort.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:52:29

!topic General Issues / Open Floor

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:52:42

Does anyone have anything for Open Floor?

<@smooge:fedora.im>

18:53:07

it needs to be rewaxed soon

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:53:27

Ya ... it's been scuffed up quite a bit. ;)

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:53:54

one thing from me: finally got a package someone in #epel on irc requested like... three months ago, into EPEL. mod_mapcache is now in Fedora and EPEL for all your maptile caching needs

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:54:35

worked w/ them on the spec but they didn't want to do the whole 'become a packager' thing :P

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:55:10

I remember seeing that. Thank you for taking that on.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:56:10

Anything else before we close the meeting?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:56:51

Sounds like it's time to close.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:57:08

🎵 closing time...

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:57:19

Thank you all for coming and for the good discussions. And thank you all for your work on EPEL and it's community.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:57:29

Thank you, Troy Dawson !

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:57:38

I'll talk to you all next week, if not sooner.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

18:57:40

thanks Troy

<@jrichardson:matrix.org>

18:57:46

thanks Troy

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

18:57:49

!endmeeting