2024-09-05 16:00:32 <@james:fedora.im> !startmeeting fpc

2024-09-05 16:00:33 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-09-05 16:00:32 UTC
2024-09-05 16:00:33 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fpc'
2024-09-05 16:00:36 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2024-09-05 16:01:09 <@james:fedora.im> !hi
2024-09-05 16:01:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> James Antill (james)
2024-09-05 16:05:16 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !hi
2024-09-05 16:05:18 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his
2024-09-05 16:05:59 <@james:fedora.im> Looking like a short meeting with just us, if you have anything?
2024-09-05 16:07:20 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> just an apology for still not having that snapshot versioning pr done
2024-09-05 16:07:43 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> it's turning into a rewrite of a large part of the versioning guidelines as i notice more and more
2024-09-05 16:08:00 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i do feel good about the direction it's going in and making good progress
2024-09-05 16:08:49 <@james:fedora.im> sounds like it's going well, even if slower than you'd thought.
2024-09-05 16:09:27 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> yeah just never enough time in the day to work on all the things i want to
2024-09-05 16:09:34 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> nothing new there 😀
2024-09-05 16:09:49 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> !hi
2024-09-05 16:09:50 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Fabio Valentini (decathorpe) - he / him / his
2024-09-05 16:10:00 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> sorry, lost track of time
2024-09-05 16:10:36 <@james:fedora.im> No problem
2024-09-05 16:10:42 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2024-09-05 16:10:51 <@james:fedora.im> Either of you have anything?
2024-09-05 16:10:52 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> I have something for open floor actually 
2024-09-05 16:11:13 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/CryptoPolicies/#_new_crypto_libraries
2024-09-05 16:11:23 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> this section needs to be updated. the "Security Team" doesn't exist
2024-09-05 16:11:29 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> and people think it's confusing 
2024-09-05 16:11:33 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> (I don't)
2024-09-05 16:11:50 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> this led to https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3267
2024-09-05 16:12:14 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> could probably just remove that clause.  fpc will of course consult with whoever is relevant on any issue.
2024-09-05 16:13:04 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> yes, I think just dropping the "Security Team" clause and leaving the rest as-is would be OK
2024-09-05 16:13:48 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> 🚢 it
2024-09-05 16:14:37 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> should I make a PR?
2024-09-05 16:14:39 <@james:fedora.im> From the ticket it seems like changing it to speak with #security on matrix, is at least closer to the truth
2024-09-05 16:15:02 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> until we change chat platforms again
2024-09-05 16:15:11 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> (if you can tell which person is authoritative there ... and don't follow advice from joe-random-lurker instead)
2024-09-05 16:15:23 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> or until someone creates a new thing resembling a security team
2024-09-05 16:16:28 <@james:fedora.im> Yeh, maybe word it slightly differently like "FPC needs to sign off on it, but you'll probably get a lot of help if you speak to knowledgeable people in #security"
2024-09-05 16:17:20 <@james:fedora.im> Just trying not to have a case where it's not obvious how to get help, but then hopefully we don't get many new crypto libs. 
2024-09-05 16:17:43 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> we don't have either libressl or boringssl yet, so I don't have high hopes :)
2024-09-05 16:19:02 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> well anyway, I'll file a ticket about it, I don't have a good proposal for this yet.
2024-09-05 16:19:20 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> oof, still reading the ticket, and just got to the part where this played out exactly
2024-09-05 16:19:38 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1391
2024-09-05 16:19:50 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> yeeeah I didn't pull this out of thin air
2024-09-05 16:24:05 <@limb:fedora.im> !hi
2024-09-05 16:24:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gwyn Ciesla (limb) - she / her / hers
2024-09-05 16:24:12 <@limb:fedora.im> E_COFFEE
2024-09-05 16:25:04 <@james:fedora.im> Just here in time for me to end the meeting, unless you have something to talk about?
2024-09-05 16:28:41 <@limb:fedora.im> No. Just that the above is... a mess. :)
2024-09-05 16:28:55 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> ehm ... sorry for noticint it? :D
2024-09-05 16:29:04 <@limb:fedora.im> HOW DARE YOU
2024-09-05 16:29:09 <@limb:fedora.im> lol
2024-09-05 16:29:09 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> ehm ... sorry for noticing it? :D
2024-09-05 16:29:15 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> 😅
2024-09-05 16:29:40 <@limb:fedora.im> Make sure catch the GNU/Hurd kernel review when someone inevitably submits it...
2024-09-05 16:30:28 <@james:fedora.im> And on that note...
2024-09-05 16:30:31 <@james:fedora.im> !endmeeting