<@james:fedora.im>
16:00:07
!startmeeting fpc
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:08
Meeting started at 2024-10-03 16:00:07 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:08
The Meeting name is 'fpc'
<@james:fedora.im>
16:00:11
!topic Roll Call
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:00:31
Hello.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:00:45
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:00:47
James Antill (james)
<@james:fedora.im>
16:01:16
Jason ティビツ: How is the house?
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:01:21
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:01:22
Fabio Valentini (decathorpe) - he / him / his
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:01:40
ah, an improvement! I got it right on the first try this week.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:01:54
This part of the project is winding down; their work now is just cleanups and finishing the master bathroom.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:02:14
But next up all of the windows are getting replaced, and then we start on two other rooms.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:03:12
It's going to be a ship of Theseus situation when we're finally done.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:03:47
You can sleep in your bed again now?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:06:11
!hi
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:06:34
Fortunately yes. No more sleeping in the dining room.
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:06:58
Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@limb:fedora.im>
16:08:06
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:08:07
Gwyn Ciesla (limb) - she / her / hers
<@james:fedora.im>
16:08:42
And then there were five!
<@james:fedora.im>
16:13:12
!topic FPC https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1397
<@james:fedora.im>
16:14:25
Not sure how much we want to expand on a giant list of macros, without any docs.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:14:36
Or minimal docs
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:14:46
does my answer make sense?
<@limb:fedora.im>
16:15:24
Yes.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:15:24
Yeh, I think so (and assume you're correct)
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:15:48
at least I'm pretty sure I'm the last one who updated this page (after the wiki import)
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:16:23
The purpose of the guidelines isn't to document every weird thing that appears in rpm --showrc.
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:16:32
ah, yes, "blame" shows my face a lot.
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:16:32
https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/blame/guidelines/modules/ROOT/pages/RPMMacros.adoc?identifier=master
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:17:06
However, if we mention some macro somewhere, it might be nice to have some kind of index of that.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:17:27
I honestly wonder if the documentation system can help us with that in some way.
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:18:47
like the references to specific terms / topics at the end of some dead-tree books?
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:18:55
that would be nice
<@james:fedora.im>
16:19:36
I don't think there's anyway to do that kind of thing semi automatically ... but I'm not a docs expert
<@james:fedora.im>
16:20:06
Shall I just close the issue then?
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:20:49
I think the base question is whether we mention that macro in the guidelines as something to be used.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:21:07
I think we do, so the question becomes whether it is adequately documented there.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:21:43
It would be a big waste of effort to pull out a description of every macro into a separate document.
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:22:37
Even if that does complicate the process of figuring out the function of some random macro you found in a specfile (which I suspect is the underlying issue here).
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:24:13
also looks like contributing to the confusion is that some web search led the OP to the old wiki
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:24:34
so the Systemd page is likely missing a redirect?
<@tibbs:fedora.im>
16:25:18
Grepping, I see %_unitdir is pretty adequately documented in the systemd guidelines, so I really don't see an issue.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:28:59
I commented and closed.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:29:03
!topic Open Floor
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
16:30:45
I have nothing
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:31:28
nothing from me
<@james:fedora.im>
16:33:04
Okay, I'm going to close early then.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:34:17
!endmeeting