2024-10-03 16:00:07 <@james:fedora.im> !startmeeting fpc

2024-10-03 16:00:08 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-10-03 16:00:07 UTC
2024-10-03 16:00:08 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fpc'
2024-10-03 16:00:11 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2024-10-03 16:00:31 <@tibbs:fedora.im> Hello.
2024-10-03 16:00:45 <@james:fedora.im> !hi
2024-10-03 16:00:47 <@zodbot:fedora.im> James Antill (james)
2024-10-03 16:01:16 <@james:fedora.im> Jason ティビツ: How is the house?
2024-10-03 16:01:21 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> !hi
2024-10-03 16:01:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Fabio Valentini (decathorpe) - he / him / his
2024-10-03 16:01:40 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> ah, an improvement! I got it right on the first try this week.
2024-10-03 16:01:54 <@tibbs:fedora.im> This part of the project is winding down; their work now is just cleanups and finishing the master bathroom.
2024-10-03 16:02:14 <@tibbs:fedora.im> But next up all of the windows are getting replaced, and then we start on two other rooms.
2024-10-03 16:03:12 <@tibbs:fedora.im> It's going to be a ship of Theseus situation when we're finally done.
2024-10-03 16:03:47 <@james:fedora.im> You can sleep in your bed again now?
2024-10-03 16:06:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-10-03 16:06:34 <@tibbs:fedora.im> Fortunately yes.  No more sleeping in the dining room.
2024-10-03 16:06:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-10-03 16:08:06 <@limb:fedora.im> !hi
2024-10-03 16:08:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gwyn Ciesla (limb) - she / her / hers
2024-10-03 16:08:42 <@james:fedora.im> And then there were five!
2024-10-03 16:13:12 <@james:fedora.im> !topic FPC https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1397
2024-10-03 16:14:25 <@james:fedora.im> Not sure how much we want to expand on a giant list of macros, without any docs.
2024-10-03 16:14:36 <@james:fedora.im> Or minimal docs
2024-10-03 16:14:46 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> does my answer make sense?
2024-10-03 16:15:24 <@limb:fedora.im> Yes.
2024-10-03 16:15:24 <@james:fedora.im> Yeh, I think so (and assume you're correct)
2024-10-03 16:15:48 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> at least I'm pretty sure I'm the last one who updated this page (after the wiki import)
2024-10-03 16:16:23 <@tibbs:fedora.im> The purpose of the guidelines isn't to document every weird thing that appears in rpm --showrc.
2024-10-03 16:16:32 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> ah, yes, "blame" shows my face a lot.
2024-10-03 16:16:32 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/blame/guidelines/modules/ROOT/pages/RPMMacros.adoc?identifier=master
2024-10-03 16:17:06 <@tibbs:fedora.im> However, if we mention some macro somewhere, it might be nice to have some kind of index of that.
2024-10-03 16:17:27 <@tibbs:fedora.im> I honestly wonder if the documentation system can help us with that in some way.
2024-10-03 16:18:47 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> like the references to specific terms / topics at the end of some dead-tree books?
2024-10-03 16:18:55 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> that would be nice
2024-10-03 16:19:36 <@james:fedora.im> I don't think there's anyway to do that kind of thing semi automatically ... but I'm not a docs expert
2024-10-03 16:20:06 <@james:fedora.im> Shall I just close the issue then?
2024-10-03 16:20:49 <@tibbs:fedora.im> I think the base question is whether we mention that macro in the guidelines as something to be used.
2024-10-03 16:21:07 <@tibbs:fedora.im> I think we do, so the question becomes whether it is adequately documented there.
2024-10-03 16:21:43 <@tibbs:fedora.im> It would be a big waste of effort to pull out a description of every macro into a separate document.
2024-10-03 16:22:37 <@tibbs:fedora.im> Even if that does complicate the process of figuring out the function of some random macro you found in a specfile (which I suspect is the underlying issue here).
2024-10-03 16:24:13 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> also looks like contributing to the confusion is that some web search led the OP to the old wiki
2024-10-03 16:24:34 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> so the Systemd page is likely missing a redirect?
2024-10-03 16:25:18 <@tibbs:fedora.im> Grepping, I see %_unitdir is pretty adequately documented in the systemd guidelines, so I really don't see an issue.
2024-10-03 16:28:59 <@james:fedora.im> I commented and closed.
2024-10-03 16:29:03 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2024-10-03 16:30:45 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> I have nothing
2024-10-03 16:31:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> nothing from me
2024-10-03 16:33:04 <@james:fedora.im> Okay, I'm going to close early then.
2024-10-03 16:34:17 <@james:fedora.im> !endmeeting