2024-10-10 19:01:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !startmeeting Alterative Images (2024-10-10)
2024-10-10 19:01:37 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-10-10 19:01:36 UTC
2024-10-10 19:01:37 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Alterative Images (2024-10-10)'
2024-10-10 19:01:56 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic aloha
2024-10-10 19:01:56 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !meetingname AltImages
2024-10-10 19:01:57 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now AltImages
2024-10-10 19:02:31 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Are we ok on this meeting channel?  Or should I go back to the normal meeting channel, since it looks like nobody is there?
2024-10-10 19:05:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'll give it another minute, and if there aren't any objections, I'll have it here.
2024-10-10 19:06:39 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic Requested Features
2024-10-10 19:06:39 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/centos-sig-alt-images/sig/issues?tags=Feature+Request&status=Open
2024-10-10 19:07:57 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/centos-sig-alt-images/sig/issue/8
2024-10-10 19:08:46 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So, I have created both GNOME and MIN Live images for CS10.  I have not published them, but they are in the testing area.
2024-10-10 19:09:33 <@tdawson:fedora.im> https://buildlogs.centos.org/10-stream/altimages/images/live/
2024-10-10 19:10:05 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I have also created WSL images for CentOS Stream 10, they are in the same testing area, just a different directory
2024-10-10 19:10:19 <@tdawson:fedora.im> https://buildlogs.centos.org/10-stream/altimages/images/wsl/
2024-10-10 19:10:25 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> !hi
2024-10-10 19:10:26 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Robby Callicotte (rcallicotte) - he / him / his
2024-10-10 19:10:31 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Robby Callicotte 
2024-10-10 19:11:13 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I don't plan on releasing CS10 images until after CS10 itself is released.
2024-10-10 19:11:38 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> Ok. That was exactly the question I had! Lol
2024-10-10 19:12:12 <@tdawson:fedora.im> After CS10 is released, I'll create new images with the latest stuff, and release those.
2024-10-10 19:13:01 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But I have tested the images that are there in -testing, and they all work good, so if people want to use them, they can.
2024-10-10 19:14:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Moving on to the next issue
2024-10-10 19:14:06 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/centos-sig-alt-images/sig/issue/4
2024-10-10 19:14:39 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I did give this a try, unsuccessfully.  
2024-10-10 19:15:23 <@tdawson:fedora.im> One of the problems I had was all the examples I looked at were using btrfs, and we have to use xfs/ext4.
2024-10-10 19:15:48 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Or, maybe I wasn't doing grub right ... I'm not really sure.
2024-10-10 19:16:17 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Either way, the images wouldn't boot because they couldn't find their root filesystem.
2024-10-10 19:17:03 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So, if someone wants to give this a try, I won't stand in their way.
2024-10-10 19:17:31 <@tdawson:fedora.im> And if nobody does, then I'm going to be asking on the channels for helps and hints.
2024-10-10 19:18:05 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Next issue:
2024-10-10 19:18:25 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/centos-sig-alt-images/sig/issue/3
2024-10-10 19:18:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I haven't touched this one since last meeting, so I don't have anything new to say about it.
2024-10-10 19:19:47 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That's all of the open issues we have.
2024-10-10 19:20:08 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic Latest News
2024-10-10 19:21:01 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I suppose everyone attending this meeting saw the email that went out with what we did that past month, but I'll summarize for the meeting notes.
2024-10-10 19:22:07 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !info all Live images were updated for this quarter.
2024-10-10 19:22:26 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !info We now are creating WSL images
2024-10-10 19:22:50 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !info We now have docs on how to use CentOS Stream WSL images on Windows
2024-10-10 19:23:26 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !info We now have docs on how to make, and modify, your own Alt Images locally.
2024-10-10 19:24:10 <@tdawson:fedora.im> And by the way, thank you Robby Callicotte for volunteering to do the Quarterly Report.
2024-10-10 19:24:40 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I should have waited and asked if anyone wanted to.  I just got carried away in documenting things. :)
2024-10-10 19:25:31 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Do we have any other news that happened in the past month?
2024-10-10 19:26:20 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic Whats Next
2024-10-10 19:27:07 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We've already mentioned it, but we plan on releasing our CentOS Stream 10 based images after CentOS Stream 10 is officially released.
2024-10-10 19:28:32 <@tdawson:fedora.im> For the other two open issues, I think I'm going to concentrate on the RAW images.  I feel like I'm just missing a line or two someplace and need to track it down.
2024-10-10 19:29:22 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> I can take a look into the persistent media issue
2024-10-10 19:30:28 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That would be great.  It's very possible that I just had something off by a bit, or maybe very much.
2024-10-10 19:30:56 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I also wonder if it will work on CentOS Stream 9, or if it needs CentOS Stream 10.
2024-10-10 19:31:45 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2024-10-10 19:32:35 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I think the only thing I had for Open Floor was to ask if we are ok moving to Meeting 1 permanently?
2024-10-10 19:32:50 <@tdawson:fedora.im> If we are, I can/should update our documentation.
2024-10-10 19:33:00 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> I'm fine with that
2024-10-10 19:33:21 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> +1 
2024-10-10 19:33:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We don't have enough to make it a majority ... but we're the two that consistently are here ... so ... passed. :)
2024-10-10 19:34:32 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> :)
2024-10-10 19:34:32 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Plus, I think the meeting that conflicts with this seems to be fairly important.
2024-10-10 19:34:49 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2024-10-10 19:34:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2024-10-10 19:34:55 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But it doesn't seem to happen each month ... so I don't know what's up with that.
2024-10-10 19:35:02 <@davide:cavalca.name> sorry, this ended up overlapping with something else
2024-10-10 19:35:05 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Davide Cavalca 
2024-10-10 19:35:06 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'm also +1 fwiw
2024-10-10 19:35:20 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thanks.
2024-10-10 19:35:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca: Did you have anything you wanted to ask and/or talk about?
2024-10-10 19:36:20 <@davide:cavalca.name> nothing pressing
2024-10-10 19:36:39 <@davide:cavalca.name> I have been toying around with getting the supporting software needed for Apple Silicon Macs build for c10s
2024-10-10 19:36:52 <@davide:cavalca.name> so when that's ready we'll have to figure out where to build and host installer images
2024-10-10 19:36:57 <@davide:cavalca.name> but nothing usable yet on that front
2024-10-10 19:37:15 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That would be very cool to have.
2024-10-10 19:37:23 <@davide:cavalca.name> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dcavalca/asahi-centos-stream/ fyi
2024-10-10 19:38:03 <@davide:cavalca.name> this is mostly blocked on a few missing things in EPEL, and on finding the time to work with Conan Kudo and get a proper kernel branch up
2024-10-10 19:38:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Do you think if ya'll get that in place, we'd be able to utilize it to create rpi images as well?
2024-10-10 19:39:22 <@davide:cavalca.name> not really, unfortunately the provisioning infrastructure for these macs is very bespoke
2024-10-10 19:39:27 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> I thought rpi required some special uboot 
2024-10-10 19:39:48 <@davide:cavalca.name> you should however benefit from a lot of the userspace work, things like the x86 emulation should work on other aarch64 systems too
2024-10-10 19:39:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ya, I think it does, which is why I was wondering if it's the same uboot ... but sounds like it isn't.
2024-10-10 19:40:02 <@davide:cavalca.name> yeah, it's not the same uboot unfortunately
2024-10-10 19:40:27 <@davide:cavalca.name> I actually have a bunch of uboot packaging improvements on my list, but we'll see if/when I get to that
2024-10-10 19:40:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That would be nice.
2024-10-10 19:41:24 <@tdawson:fedora.im> It's one of our more frequent questions, getting it on the rpi ... but ... oh well.
2024-10-10 19:42:08 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Most people are happy to use Fedora, so it's not usually a big deal.
2024-10-10 19:42:22 <@davide:cavalca.name> I think Alma has a rpi build
2024-10-10 19:42:40 <@davide:cavalca.name> maybe we can work with them on getting it integrated upstream
2024-10-10 19:42:56 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That would be nice.
2024-10-10 19:43:44 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Do we have anything else before we call it a meeting?
2024-10-10 19:44:35 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank ya'll for coming.
2024-10-10 19:44:53 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'll talk to ya next month here ... and on our regular channel until then.
2024-10-10 19:45:09 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !endmeeting