<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:31:44
!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:31:45
Meeting started at 2024-10-23 16:31:44 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:31:45
The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:31:49
!topic roll call
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:31:57
!hi aaradhak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:00
Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak)
<@hricky:fedora.im>
16:32:12
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:13
Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:32:18
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:20
Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:32:26
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:28
Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
<@gurssing:matrix.org>
16:32:34
!hi gursewak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:36
Gursewak Singh (gursewak)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:32:49
Hi all! This is my first time running this meeting, so please be patient.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:32:57
We'll wait a little bit for everyone to join
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:33:11
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:13
None (jlebon)
<@mnguyen:fedora.im>
16:34:03
!hi mnguyen
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:34:09
Michael Nguyen (mnguyen)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:34:32
we've got a lot of people here already, so let's get started
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:35:01
!topic Action items from last meeting
<@ravanelli:matrix.org>
16:35:11
!hi ravanelli
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:35:13
Renata Ravanelli (ravanelli)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:35:23
It doesn't look like there are any action items from the last meeting
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:35:54
There are also no issues with the meeting label
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:36:01
easy first meeting for me :)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:36:17
I could move t oopen floor, but is there any issue we want to bring up before that?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:36:21
No actions in https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2024-10-16/133913 as far as I can see
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:36:46
travier: should we discuss the new platform request?
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:36:51
I could move to open floor, but is there any issue we want to bring up before that?
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:37:35
IONOSCloud?
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:37:38
There's also the boot.mirror issue on non-x86 that maybe we should look into at some point
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:37:55
marmijo: yeah, not sure if it's ready for discussion yet
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:38:02
let's do that (but I'm leaving at the 30 min mark)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:38:38
!topic Platform Request: IONOSCloud
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:38:48
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1815
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:39:34
I hope this is the issue you meant to discuss travier
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:39:35
The IONOS Cloud folks are reaching out and implementing support in Ignition. Thanks!
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:40:07
oh, so they are signing up to work on it?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:40:14
Their infrastructure is a bit weird however
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:40:39
Apparently the folks that opened PRs are IONOS employees as far as I could see
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:41:03
!link https://github.com/flatcar/Flatcar/issues/1570
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:42:07
honestly, the whole "inject files into the disk first" part is icky.. can they not just do the configdrive approach until they get their metadata service running?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:42:59
yeah, I really wished they would taken the same approach as other clouds instead of re-inventing something that's likely going to break in weird ways :(
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:44:15
(and I don't want to know how this is done in their infra as this could be a target for an attacker as well)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:45:05
I guess the main thing we can do right now is agree on a short name to reserve for afterburn & ignition?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:46:43
`ionos`, `ionoscloud`?
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:47:46
First one wfm
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:48:23
Maybe we can mention our preference for config drive if they can do that
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:37
Looking at https://coreos.github.io/ignition/supported-platforms/, we tend to strip the cloud part, but we still had `ibmcloud`
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:48:42
do we typically append "cloud" to other providors? What decide we do for Hetzner?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:49:04
Hetzner Cloud (`hetzner`) so we stripped cloud
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:49:14
well, then I'd vote for `ionos`
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:49:44
https://github.com/coreos/ignition/pull/1957/files#diff-9f44c2268b6546e03f8c2cdcf027e3986cf5bc76eb88c60c1aabeabbb8aa92cbR23
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:49:57
ah, they picked ionoscloud in their PR
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:50:14
(we can always ask them to change it)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:50:48
they would have to special-case CoreOS for that injection since /var isn't trivial to find there
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:50:48
or... just inject it in the bootfs where we already know to look for it.
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:50:50
I guess we do both.
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:51:05
Like ibmcloud for ibm
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:51:27
Ahh trravier mentioned that
<@ravanelli:matrix.org>
16:51:37
I think we know the ibm cloud as ibm cloud because it is the full name for it 😆
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:52:33
I'm a fan of consistency, so I'd vote for `ionos`, but i'd be fine with `ionoscloud` too if that's how its referenced in the wild
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:28
yes, I've been wondering about that. I've no idea how they are expecting this to work on all systems without issues. It won't boot read only appliances either, etc.
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:54:18
the ignition PR as written will not work for that same reason. i'll drop a comment
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:54:18
almost feel like... we don't need to support this officially yet. they could use e.g. the qemu image and inject in the bootfs for now?
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:56:02
We're coming up to the 30 minute mark. Any other discussions or decisions on this topic before travier has to drop?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:56:46
(you can continue without me :) )
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:57:15
i think let's discuss more in the ignition PR and tracker ticket for now?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:57:36
agree it needs more fleshing out
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:58:02
SGTM, we can move on.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:58:21
do we want to talk about the "boot.mirror issue on non-x86" issue? or should i move to open floor?
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:58:41
do we want to talk about the "boot.mirror issue on non-x86"? or should i move to open floor?
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:00:00
!topic Open Floor
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:00:47
We should probably start looking at change requests for f42 to get ahead of the game for once
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:00:54
Maybe for next meeting
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:01:24
That's a good idea. We can open the issue and tag it for next week.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:02:42
I can run the initial script and open the issue, since I was doing that for F41
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:03:22
dustymabe has already given cookies to marmijo during the F40 timeframe
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:03:56
lol, my cookie jar is full apparently. Thank you though!
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:04:15
Does anyone have any other topics to discuss before we close the meeting?
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:04:57
None from my side
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:05:16
I'll end in 60 seconds if no one has anything :)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:06:17
!endmeeting