2024-10-23 16:31:44 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting 2024-10-23 16:31:45 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-10-23 16:31:44 UTC 2024-10-23 16:31:45 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting' 2024-10-23 16:31:49 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !topic roll call 2024-10-23 16:31:57 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> !hi aaradhak 2024-10-23 16:32:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak) 2024-10-23 16:32:12 <@hricky:fedora.im> !hi 2024-10-23 16:32:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his 2024-10-23 16:32:18 <@siosm:matrix.org> !hi 2024-10-23 16:32:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his 2024-10-23 16:32:26 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> !hi 2024-10-23 16:32:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his 2024-10-23 16:32:34 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !hi gursewak 2024-10-23 16:32:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gursewak Singh (gursewak) 2024-10-23 16:32:49 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Hi all! This is my first time running this meeting, so please be patient. 2024-10-23 16:32:57 <@marmijo:fedora.im> We'll wait a little bit for everyone to join 2024-10-23 16:33:11 <@jlebon:fedora.im> !hi 2024-10-23 16:33:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (jlebon) 2024-10-23 16:34:03 <@mnguyen:fedora.im> !hi mnguyen 2024-10-23 16:34:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michael Nguyen (mnguyen) 2024-10-23 16:34:32 <@marmijo:fedora.im> we've got a lot of people here already, so let's get started 2024-10-23 16:35:01 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !topic Action items from last meeting 2024-10-23 16:35:11 <@ravanelli:matrix.org> !hi ravanelli 2024-10-23 16:35:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Renata Ravanelli (ravanelli) 2024-10-23 16:35:23 <@marmijo:fedora.im> It doesn't look like there are any action items from the last meeting 2024-10-23 16:35:54 <@marmijo:fedora.im> There are also no issues with the meeting label 2024-10-23 16:36:01 <@marmijo:fedora.im> easy first meeting for me :) 2024-10-23 16:36:17 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I could move t oopen floor, but is there any issue we want to bring up before that? 2024-10-23 16:36:21 <@siosm:matrix.org> No actions in https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2024-10-16/133913 as far as I can see 2024-10-23 16:36:46 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> travier: should we discuss the new platform request? 2024-10-23 16:36:51 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I could move to open floor, but is there any issue we want to bring up before that? 2024-10-23 16:37:35 <@marmijo:fedora.im> IONOSCloud? 2024-10-23 16:37:38 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> There's also the boot.mirror issue on non-x86 that maybe we should look into at some point 2024-10-23 16:37:55 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> marmijo: yeah, not sure if it's ready for discussion yet 2024-10-23 16:38:02 <@siosm:matrix.org> let's do that (but I'm leaving at the 30 min mark) 2024-10-23 16:38:38 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !topic Platform Request: IONOSCloud 2024-10-23 16:38:48 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1815 2024-10-23 16:39:34 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I hope this is the issue you meant to discuss travier 2024-10-23 16:39:35 <@siosm:matrix.org> The IONOS Cloud folks are reaching out and implementing support in Ignition. Thanks! 2024-10-23 16:40:07 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> oh, so they are signing up to work on it? 2024-10-23 16:40:14 <@siosm:matrix.org> Their infrastructure is a bit weird however 2024-10-23 16:40:39 <@siosm:matrix.org> Apparently the folks that opened PRs are IONOS employees as far as I could see 2024-10-23 16:41:03 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/flatcar/Flatcar/issues/1570 2024-10-23 16:42:07 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> honestly, the whole "inject files into the disk first" part is icky.. can they not just do the configdrive approach until they get their metadata service running? 2024-10-23 16:42:59 <@siosm:matrix.org> yeah, I really wished they would taken the same approach as other clouds instead of re-inventing something that's likely going to break in weird ways :( 2024-10-23 16:44:15 <@siosm:matrix.org> (and I don't want to know how this is done in their infra as this could be a target for an attacker as well) 2024-10-23 16:45:05 <@siosm:matrix.org> I guess the main thing we can do right now is agree on a short name to reserve for afterburn & ignition? 2024-10-23 16:46:43 <@siosm:matrix.org> `ionos`, `ionoscloud`? 2024-10-23 16:47:46 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> First one wfm 2024-10-23 16:48:23 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Maybe we can mention our preference for config drive if they can do that 2024-10-23 16:48:37 <@siosm:matrix.org> Looking at https://coreos.github.io/ignition/supported-platforms/, we tend to strip the cloud part, but we still had `ibmcloud` 2024-10-23 16:48:42 <@marmijo:fedora.im> do we typically append "cloud" to other providors? What decide we do for Hetzner? 2024-10-23 16:49:04 <@siosm:matrix.org> Hetzner Cloud (`hetzner`) so we stripped cloud 2024-10-23 16:49:14 <@marmijo:fedora.im> well, then I'd vote for `ionos` 2024-10-23 16:49:44 <@siosm:matrix.org> https://github.com/coreos/ignition/pull/1957/files#diff-9f44c2268b6546e03f8c2cdcf027e3986cf5bc76eb88c60c1aabeabbb8aa92cbR23 2024-10-23 16:49:57 <@siosm:matrix.org> ah, they picked ionoscloud in their PR 2024-10-23 16:50:14 <@siosm:matrix.org> (we can always ask them to change it) 2024-10-23 16:50:48 <@jlebon:fedora.im> they would have to special-case CoreOS for that injection since /var isn't trivial to find there 2024-10-23 16:50:48 <@jlebon:fedora.im> or... just inject it in the bootfs where we already know to look for it. 2024-10-23 16:50:50 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I guess we do both. 2024-10-23 16:51:05 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Like ibmcloud for ibm 2024-10-23 16:51:27 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Ahh trravier mentioned that 2024-10-23 16:51:37 <@ravanelli:matrix.org> I think we know the ibm cloud as ibm cloud because it is the full name for it 😆 2024-10-23 16:52:33 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I'm a fan of consistency, so I'd vote for `ionos`, but i'd be fine with `ionoscloud` too if that's how its referenced in the wild 2024-10-23 16:53:28 <@siosm:matrix.org> yes, I've been wondering about that. I've no idea how they are expecting this to work on all systems without issues. It won't boot read only appliances either, etc. 2024-10-23 16:54:18 <@jlebon:fedora.im> the ignition PR as written will not work for that same reason. i'll drop a comment 2024-10-23 16:54:18 <@jlebon:fedora.im> almost feel like... we don't need to support this officially yet. they could use e.g. the qemu image and inject in the bootfs for now? 2024-10-23 16:56:02 <@marmijo:fedora.im> We're coming up to the 30 minute mark. Any other discussions or decisions on this topic before travier has to drop? 2024-10-23 16:56:46 <@siosm:matrix.org> (you can continue without me :) ) 2024-10-23 16:57:15 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i think let's discuss more in the ignition PR and tracker ticket for now? 2024-10-23 16:57:36 <@siosm:matrix.org> agree it needs more fleshing out 2024-10-23 16:58:02 <@marmijo:fedora.im> SGTM, we can move on. 2024-10-23 16:58:21 <@marmijo:fedora.im> do we want to talk about the "boot.mirror issue on non-x86" issue? or should i move to open floor? 2024-10-23 16:58:41 <@marmijo:fedora.im> do we want to talk about the "boot.mirror issue on non-x86"? or should i move to open floor? 2024-10-23 17:00:00 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor 2024-10-23 17:00:47 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> We should probably start looking at change requests for f42 to get ahead of the game for once 2024-10-23 17:00:54 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Maybe for next meeting 2024-10-23 17:01:24 <@marmijo:fedora.im> That's a good idea. We can open the issue and tag it for next week. 2024-10-23 17:02:42 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I can run the initial script and open the issue, since I was doing that for F41 2024-10-23 17:03:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> dustymabe has already given cookies to marmijo during the F40 timeframe 2024-10-23 17:03:56 <@marmijo:fedora.im> lol, my cookie jar is full apparently. Thank you though! 2024-10-23 17:04:15 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Does anyone have any other topics to discuss before we close the meeting? 2024-10-23 17:04:57 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> None from my side 2024-10-23 17:05:16 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I'll end in 60 seconds if no one has anything :) 2024-10-23 17:06:17 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !endmeeting