<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:30:21
!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:30:29
Meeting started at 2024-12-18 16:30:21 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:30:29
The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:30:42
!topic roll call
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:30:46
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:30:49
Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:30:53
!hi aaradhak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:30:55
Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak)
<@flyingcakes:kde.org>
16:31:20
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:31:22
Snehit Sah (flyingcakes) - sweet/cake
<@flyingcakes:kde.org>
16:32:08
!link
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:32:21
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:22
Michael Armijo (marmijo)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:32:22
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:24
Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
<@hricky:fedora.im>
16:32:45
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:47
Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:32:55
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:56
None (jlebon)
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:32:59
!topic Action items from last meeting
<@gurssing:matrix.org>
16:33:08
!hi gursewak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:11
Gursewak Singh (gursewak)
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:34:03
Hi all!
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:34:03
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:34:03
I just checked the meeting log [here](https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org//meeting-1_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-12-11/fedora-coreos-meeting.2024-12-11-16.30.html) and no action items was found.
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:34:27
Let's move on to the Action items for this week.
<@flyingcakes:kde.org>
16:34:48
hi, i'm new here
<@flyingcakes:kde.org>
16:34:48
how do i 'join' ?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:36:27
flyingcakes: Welcome! There are nothing specific to do to join the community. Attending meeting, using Fedora CoreOS, reporting issues, etc. make you part of the community
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:36:35
flyingcakes: Welcome! There is nothing specific to do to join the community. Attending meeting, using Fedora CoreOS, reporting issues, etc. make you part of the community
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:36:38
The FCOS meeting checklist does not return any topics for today - I'm scrolling through the https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker to see if there's anything labelled for discussion.
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:36:48
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:36:50
Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:36:51
We should look at https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1838
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:37:25
Very well
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:37:38
!topic tracker: Fedora 42 changes considerations
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:37:45
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1838
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:38:24
I just updated the list and two new changes were added: items 113 and 114
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:38:32
!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NumPy2
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:38:43
this one shouldnt affect fcos
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:39:00
agree, we don't ship this
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:39:21
Then there's item 114
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:39:24
!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Anaconda_Web_UI_Partitioning
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:39:46
This also shouldn't affect FCOS?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:40:00
agree as well, we don't use Anaconda (at lest for now)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:40:04
agree as well, we don't use Anaconda (at least for now)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:40:39
Also, item 1 was updated with a BZ tracker finally, but we're not looking at that change.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:40:45
That's it!
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:40:57
Thanks!:
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:40:58
EDIT: item 101 was updated
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:41:44
travier: regarding the change to drop ppc from atomic desktops.. is s390x being built? if so, why not drop s390x too?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:42:00
!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f42-change-proposal-stop-building-atomic-dekstops-for-ppc64le-self-contained/139835/8
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:42:17
we are looking at stopping the PPC64LE builds for the Atomic Desktops
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:42:24
we don't build s390x right now
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:42:35
Only Silverblue & Kinoite are build for ppc64le today
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:42:42
Only Silverblue & Kinoite are built for ppc64le today
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:44:00
tbh i am surprised they were built in the first place
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:44:41
yeah. somebody requested they be added some time ago and we did it.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:45:52
According to the countme stats we have 0 users
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:46:20
are the stats across all currently supported releasevers?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:46:28
The FCOS stats have 2 users for s390x & ppc64le (i.e. likely our builders 🙂)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:46:49
yes as far as I know
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
36,753
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
38,89
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
39,187
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
40,936
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
41,2397
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
42,1
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
osvariant,repo_arch,SUM(hits)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
silverblue,aarch64,24
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
silverblue,x86_64,4392
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
```
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
37,48
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
Silverblue:
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
```
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
34,1
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:18
35,4
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:48:55
wonder what the numbers for ublue are
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:49:35
do they de-activate the countme service ?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:50:07
they don't
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:50:19
do they disable the countme service ?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:50:45
https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/bazzite-f41-update-new-kernel-msi-claw-improvements-vrr-fixes-better-changelogs-gnome-47-more/4726
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:50:53
I guess we can move the above conversation to the Open Floor, unless there are other topics we should discuss first?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:51:13
we have https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f42-change-proposal-remove-fips-mode-setup-system-wide/138983/15 but it's not accepted yet
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:51:19
so it's just an FYI
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:51:44
Ok, thank you travier - moving to open floor
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:51:50
travier: gotcha. yeah... worth noting a big difference here with FCOS is that we do support and have users on those arches downstream. AFAIK the same can't be said for Workstation (nevermind Atomic Desktops)
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:51:58
!topic Open Floor
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:02
As far as I know there are no downstream Atomic Desktops products/users of any kind (but I could be unaware of them as well)
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:53:11
Jonathan Lebon: yeah there is definitely value in doing those in fcos
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:53:19
travier: hmm those numbers from the blog post seem off. your numbers above would indicate something like 4k silverblue users where there numbers indicate 8.8k from the graph?
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:53:40
isn't ublue a downstream of atomic desktop
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:53:44
isn't ublue a downstream of atomic desktop?
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:54:11
yes
<@flyingcakes:kde.org>
16:54:20
> Universal Blue maintains a set of base images built from Fedora Atomic Desktops and then enhanced with additional hardware support and fixes
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:54:25
ah yes, sorry, I meant not Fedora based
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:55:12
Universal Blue is directly built on top of Fedora Atomic, so it's almost not a downstream and closer to a variant
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:56:09
dustymabe: It could be that the script I use is not doing things properly
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:56:24
https://github.com/miabbott/parse_countme
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:58:35
I need to re-run things for our coreos countme info again so I might adjust those slightly to look at SB and tell you what I get
<@hricky:fedora.im>
16:59:32
I think Matthew Miller has some scripts for countme.
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:01:27
should we cancel meetings for the next two weeks and send an announcement out?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:01:41
yes, would be good
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:01:48
not sure how many people will be around. I won't
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
17:02:20
Same here - I think we could have 2 weeks break from meetings.
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:02:37
me neither
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
17:03:49
!propose Let's skip the next 2 meetings and run next on 2025-01-08
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
17:04:50
!propose Let's skip the next 2 meetings and see each other again here on 2025-01-08
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:05:02
+1
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:05:08
+1
<@hricky:fedora.im>
17:05:10
+1
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:05:15
+1
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
17:06:51
!agreed We cancel the meetings on 2024-12-25 and 2025-01-01, and meet again after the break on 2025-01-08
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:07:16
does anyone want to send out the announcement?
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:08:22
I can send it 😄
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:08:58
if you've never sent a mail to the list and posted on the discussion forum before it's a good learning experience for doing it in the future
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:09:09
sync with marmijo later if you're interested
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
17:09:55
Is there anything else pressing before closing for today, folks?
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:10:27
I hope everyone has a nice holiday/break!
<@hricky:fedora.im>
17:10:43
Happy holidays to everyone!
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
17:11:15
Thank you everyone for attending! Happy holidays!
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
17:12:11
!endmeeting