2025-01-15 18:05:50 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !startmeeting EPEL (2025-01-15)
2025-01-15 18:05:51 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-01-15 18:05:50 UTC
2025-01-15 18:05:51 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'EPEL (2025-01-15)'
2025-01-15 18:05:59 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !meetingname epel
2025-01-15 18:05:59 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-15 18:06:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
2025-01-15 18:06:00 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now epel
2025-01-15 18:06:02 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !topic aloha
2025-01-15 18:06:09 <@dherrera:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-15 18:06:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Diego Herrera (dherrera) - he / him / his
2025-01-15 18:06:18 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !hi
2025-01-15 18:06:24 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his
2025-01-15 18:06:40 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Morning/afternoon/etc, folks. sorry again for the delay. I was in the zone
2025-01-15 18:06:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2025-01-15 18:06:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, no worries... happens to us all.
2025-01-15 18:07:27 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !topic EPEL 10
2025-01-15 18:07:37 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Anyone have anything for EPEL 10 this week?
2025-01-15 18:08:27 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> It's up over 11k binary packages
2025-01-15 18:09:01 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Awesome!
2025-01-15 18:10:09 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> [@dherrera:fedora.im](https://matrix.to/#/@dherrera:fedora.im) may or may not have an update for us about the branching plans he was investigating
2025-01-15 18:10:31 <@dherrera:fedora.im> nah, not much on those waters yet :)
2025-01-15 18:10:38 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> nirik: depends on if you count "please branch and build" bugs :p
2025-01-15 18:10:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2025-01-15 18:10:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2025-01-15 18:11:25 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Good afternoon Conan Kudo 
2025-01-15 18:11:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> naw, just was wondering if users were reporting many bugs yet... and how maintainers are handling the flow
2025-01-15 18:12:20 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I think I saw some discussion about 10 vs 10.0 in the mirror path, which Carl George answered on discussion.fp.o
2025-01-15 18:12:36 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> but haven't heard any major complaints, myself
2025-01-15 18:12:47 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> do we have any countme stats for it yet?
2025-01-15 18:12:55 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/epel-10-status-update/124549/17
2025-01-15 18:13:25 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> the raw data exists, but i don't know if anything has done anything with it yet
2025-01-15 18:14:08 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> roger
2025-01-15 18:15:05 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> moving along, then
2025-01-15 18:15:14 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> oop, i see kevin tying
2025-01-15 18:15:17 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> oop, i see kevin typing
2025-01-15 18:15:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> could be added to roles/web-data-analysis/files/mirrorlist.py by interested parties.
2025-01-15 18:15:45 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> thank you for that :) 
2025-01-15 18:16:05 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !info epel 10 has over 11k binary packages now. maintainers seem to be adjusting well, from what we can tell
2025-01-15 18:16:54 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !info countme data for el10 is not yet being processed, interested parties can make PRs to `roles/web-data-analysis/files/mirrorlist.py` to include it
2025-01-15 18:17:00 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !topic Old Business
2025-01-15 18:18:24 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Anyone have old business this week that isn't part of EPEL 10?
2025-01-15 18:18:29 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> or is, I guess
2025-01-15 18:19:29 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> my first priority now that i'm back from the holidays is sending a pr to dnf to get releasever_minor working, but i haven't done it yet
2025-01-15 18:20:19 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2025-01-15 18:20:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2025-01-15 18:20:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh right, reminds me... something to mention:
2025-01-15 18:20:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2338267
2025-01-15 18:21:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (related to releasever vars)
2025-01-15 18:21:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that sounds like a dnf bug
2025-01-15 18:22:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it should be doing the correct variable expansion
2025-01-15 18:22:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, not sure, just saw it this morning in the email flood...
2025-01-15 18:23:34 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> it expands with dnf, that bug says it didn't expand with pkgkit
2025-01-15 18:23:41 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> is there's a missing function call in https://github.com/PackageKit/PackageKit/blob/main/backends/dnf/pk-backend-dnf-common.c, I'd like to know
2025-01-15 18:23:48 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> specifically pkcon
2025-01-15 18:24:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but we expect all variables to be expanded by libdnf before handing the data back to PackageKit
2025-01-15 18:24:07 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Hi Davide Cavalca 
2025-01-15 18:24:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> if there's a missing function call in https://github.com/PackageKit/PackageKit/blob/main/backends/dnf/pk-backend-dnf-common.c, I'd like to know
2025-01-15 18:24:43 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the `dnf_context_setup()` function is supposed to handle all this
2025-01-15 18:24:45 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2338267
2025-01-15 18:26:28 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i've got my hands full with getting dnf working in time for rhel10, so if someone else can deal with this pkgkit stuff that would be super
2025-01-15 18:26:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's a libdnf bug not a pk one
2025-01-15 18:27:03 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so you're going to be touching the same codebase for your dnf thing too
2025-01-15 18:27:06 <@dherrera:fedora.im> I'll give it a shot
2025-01-15 18:27:18 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> a libdnf bug that doesn't affect dnf but does affect pkgcon, got it
2025-01-15 18:27:32 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> libdnf is a schizoid library
2025-01-15 18:27:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it has two separate entry points that are used by two different frontends
2025-01-15 18:27:41 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> sorry for not being specific enough
2025-01-15 18:27:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, I am not sure where the bug is... but it's not in epel-release. ;)
2025-01-15 18:28:18 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> almost certainly the entry point that was historically libhif was not updated at the same time as the entry point that was historically libhawkey
2025-01-15 18:28:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> this was the big reason for the dnf5 rewrite
2025-01-15 18:28:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> things kept getting out of sync
2025-01-15 18:28:50 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> what a tangled web we weaved
2025-01-15 18:29:10 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> glad it's been/being sorted, that's for sure! more brainpower to other problems
2025-01-15 18:29:52 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Thanks for joining nirik 
2025-01-15 18:30:46 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !info Carl working on `releasever_minor` in dnf/libdnf
2025-01-15 18:31:53 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !info Diego Herrera offered to look at the `releasever_major` bug w.r.t. dnf and/or packgekit
2025-01-15 18:32:09 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Any other old business?
2025-01-15 18:32:49 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !topic New Business
2025-01-15 18:33:08 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Anyone have new business?
2025-01-15 18:33:57 <@davide:cavalca.name> just a heads up that I've been slowly working through getting mkdocs and mkdocs-material in epel10 to support centos docs
2025-01-15 18:34:59 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !info Davide created a "lightweight" mkdocs SIG and is working on getting mkdocs/mkdocs-material and dependencies into EPEL 10. Help is welcome!
2025-01-15 18:36:58 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Any other new business?
2025-01-15 18:38:10 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !topic Open Floor
2025-01-15 18:40:05 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Everyone wants 20 minutes back, I see :) 
2025-01-15 18:41:15 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Thanks very much to everyone for coming, for the discussions, and for the work you do for EPEL! Enjoy the rest of your day and see you around.
2025-01-15 18:41:15 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> 
2025-01-15 18:41:15 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Troy's back next week, so... We can adjourn til then!
2025-01-15 18:41:16 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !endmeeting