#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@james:fedora.im>

17:00:07

!startmeeting fpc

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:08

Meeting started at 2025-01-16 17:00:07 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:08

The Meeting name is 'fpc'

<@james:fedora.im>

17:00:11

!topic Roll Call

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:00:19

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:00:22

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:00:23

aggraxis gave a cookie to davdunc. They now have 41 cookies, 2 of which were obtained in the Fedora 41 release cycle

<@james:fedora.im>

17:00:52

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:00:53

James Antill (james)

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:00:57

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:00:59

Gwyn Ciesla (limb) - she / her / hers

<@james:fedora.im>

17:01:27

Conan Kudo: You get back to back meetings, lucky you ;)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:01:34

lol

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:01:43

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:01:44

Fabio Valentini (decathorpe) - he / him / his

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:01:46

it's almost like my old job

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:01:55

back to back meetings for hours

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:04:31

FYI element is behaving weirdly for me today, messages getting delivered out-of-order etc. so if I don't respond (or my messages are out of place) that's probably why

<@james:fedora.im>

17:06:13

Kind of related ... but does anyone use a matrix client on their phone, and if so which one?

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:06:29

I use element on Android. it's ... meh, fine

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:06:32

I use Element and Schidichat

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:06:38

Same review. :)

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:07:03

I'd like to try element X but our homeserver apparently doesn't support that yet

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:08:00

I use Element

<@james:fedora.im>

17:08:42

I heard someone say FluffyChat is nice if you just want to mainly be in a single room, or send/respond DMs ... which seems like an ideal usecase on my phone

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:09:27

NeoChat is also available for Android, I think

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:09:36

but it's not on the Google Play Store yet

<@james:fedora.im>

17:09:43

Ahh

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:09:59

if it was, I'd probably recommend that

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:10:18

I use Element and NeoChat on the desktop

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:10:25

so I'd probably do the same on my phone too

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:10:29

I use nheko and Fractal on desktop.

<@james:fedora.im>

17:11:45

Yeh, on the desktop I still just use chat.fp.org ... so I'm def. not with it ;)

<@james:fedora.im>

17:12:14

I do pin the tabs though <= super user ;)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:12:54

I do highly recommend NeoChat. Especially if you use Fedora KDE, as it's preinstalled. :)

<@james:fedora.im>

17:13:19

!topic FPC PR#1358 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1358

<@james:fedora.im>

17:13:54

I don't we've seen churchyard here since this opened :(

<@james:fedora.im>

17:14:11

It looks pretty simple though ... anyone else want to ack it?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:15:39

sure

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:16:09

seems good to me +1

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:16:41

me two

<@james:fedora.im>

17:18:41

!topic FPC PR#1431 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1431

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:18:49

Me three

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:20:35

sigh

<@james:fedora.im>

17:20:37

I think this might be a case of "maybe the random person who owns the setup package shouldn't have all this power/etc. ... but then it was much less easy to follow the process of speaking to us, just so we'd ack stuff or ask the maintainer anyway"

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:20:39

the setup package is ancient

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:20:42

it predates fedora

<@james:fedora.im>

17:21:06

yeh, and rhel

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:21:24

to be honest I'm thinking that we should just say "the setup package has the authoritative list, additions must go through FPC"

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:21:34

I like that.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:21:46

yeah

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:21:49

having things in two places is a recipe for things going out of sync

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

17:22:05

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:22:09

Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

17:22:10

sorry i'm late, lost track of time

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:22:11

though that brings up whether we should consider migrating setup to run through systemd sysusers

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:22:32

which is a whole separate enchilada

<@james:fedora.im>

17:23:04

Carl George: Hey, I wasn't sure if you were back yet

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:23:10

opensuse did this a while ago to their equivalent

<@james:fedora.im>

17:23:47

Conan Kudo: I think the main problem is initial install? But maybe that works fine with sysusers too

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:24:07

would probably be worth asking our systemd people about it

<@james:fedora.im>

17:25:58

Fabio Valentini: Did you want to open a PR to nuke the list and say that?

<@james:fedora.im>

17:28:55

I guess we just link to: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/setup/blob/rawhide/f/uidgid

<@james:fedora.im>

17:29:50

!topic Open Floor

<@james:fedora.im>

17:30:07

That's it for things I had to talk about this week ... anyone else have anything?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:30:26

nope

<@limb:fedora.im>

17:30:35

nada

<@james:fedora.im>

17:31:05

Okay, can let Conan Kudo get away with only 1.5 meetings ;)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:31:15

lol

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:31:23

I actually have another meeting in a half hour

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:32:04

I can use this time for lunch

<@james:fedora.im>

17:32:16

Happiness is meetings, meetings are happiness.

<@james:fedora.im>

17:32:39

!endmeeting