<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:31:54
!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:31:57
Meeting started at 2025-03-12 16:31:54 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:31:57
The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:32:02
!topic roll call
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:32:03
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:05
Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
<@jdoss:beeper.com>
16:32:20
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:22
Joe Doss (jdoss)
<@hricky:fedora.im>
16:32:32
hi!
<@ravanelli:matrix.org>
16:32:34
!hi ravanelli
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:32:34
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:36
Adam Piasecki (c4rt0) - he / him / his
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:38
Renata Ravanelli (ravanelli)
<@hricky:fedora.im>
16:32:54
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:55
Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:33:11
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:12
Michael Armijo (marmijo)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:33:14
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:15
None (jlebon)
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:33:54
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:56
Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:34:38
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:34:40
Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:34:44
I'm kind of here kind of not here
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:35:27
!topic Action items from last meeting
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:35:46
!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2025-03-05/146877
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:36:14
ACTION: jbtrystram work to get new zincati that supports updates via OCI completed before shipping F42 beta (@marmijo:fedora.im, 16:39:09)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:36:36
I think this is well in progress. Do we need to re-action it? JB is actively working on it
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:36:54
I think this is well in progress. Do we need to re-action it? jbtrystram is actively working on it
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:37:02
yeah i don't think we need to re-action
<@mnguyen:fedora.im>
16:37:09
!hi mnguyen
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:37:10
Michael Nguyen (mnguyen)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:37:33
The second action item (apiaseck to work to schedule and coordinate a test week for Fedora 42 with the help of Renata Ravanelli and Sumantro Mukherjee) has an entry in today's agenda so let move on
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:37:44
!topic Review Fedora 42 Release Schedule
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:37:50
yeah i hope it will be merged soon
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:37:51
!link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-42/f-42-key-tasks.html
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:38:43
We are getting close to the beta
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:39:33
We still need to agree on the date for the test days. It was held at the previous meeting since we were unsure of the final date for our F2F. Since it is now confirmed that F2F takes place on the week of 24/25’th of March… we can decide on the date for test days.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:39:45
Beta target date 1 is Tuesday. I'll be attending the Go/No-Go meeting tomorrow at 1700 UTC
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:40:19
even before that we should probably stage some updates to `next-devel` and maybe even go ahead and re-enable it early
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:40:46
once it's `GO` its a bit of a race to get everything in line
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:41:37
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1851
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:41:37
Sounds good. I can start the next few steps to stage next-devel
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:43:37
Sounds good then. Thanks marmijo
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:43:51
Let's move to the Test Week planning then
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:44:05
!topic tracker: F42 Test Week
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:44:10
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1885
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:45:45
So for the test week, we need the beta to be out, and ideally we do it before the final freeze
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:46:32
Right now that means the week of the 24th-28th or 31rst-4th
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:47:05
The CoreOS team will be busy meeting the first week, but the second week in KubeCon EU, so folks may be busy as well
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:47:19
The CoreOS team will be busy meeting the first week, but the second week is KubeCon EU, so folks may be busy as well
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:49:43
I'm ok either way - we could do later in the week of the 24th or first of the following week
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:50:48
Wow, that's a lot going on for the team! I agree, or we can split it between the weeks
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:51:35
Should we vote?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:51:54
or we pan for 24th-28th and we push back if the beta is pushed back?
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:52:26
does anyone have a strong preference?
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:53:05
I’m also ok either way.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:28
Maybe the actual test day should be the 26th to not clash with meetings but we keep the whole week open as always
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:38
(and folks can always test another day))
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:43
(and folks can always test another day)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:55:28
!proposed: Setup the test week from 24th to 28th of March, the test day on the 26th of March. If the beta is pushed back, we will push back the test week as well.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:55:45
+1
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:56:14
+1
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:58:07
sounds good. that also gives us a chance to spin another `next` if we want to work any more kinks out if there are kinks
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:58:17
(+1 from me). Are you good apiaseck for the next steps?
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
17:00:21
Yes, I pinged Summantro already, awaiting he’s replyy
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:01:03
!agreed: Setup the test week from 24th to 28th of March, the test day on the 26th of March. If the beta is pushed back, we will push back the test week as well.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:02:03
!agreed Setup the test week from 24th to 28th of March, the test day on the 26th of March. If the beta is pushed back, we will push back the test week as well.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:02:36
Does anyone has something else to bring up before we go to open floor?
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:04:28
If you think of test cases for the OCI migration let me know !
<@jdoss:beeper.com>
17:05:03
Review my PR Dusty!
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:05:14
let's make sure we test rolling back and then forward again (i.e. making sure the state machine doesn't get out of whack)
<@jdoss:beeper.com>
17:05:31
sorry I thought were in open floor.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:05:41
!topic OCI migration
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:06:00
(you can link to your PR right after that :))
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:06:14
!link https://github.com/coreos/zincati/pull/1273#issuecomment-2717716938
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:06:24
jbtrystram is working on the migration to OCI
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:06:40
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1823
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:07:29
dustymabe: i will test that
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:08:03
If folks think of corner cases to test, please send them his way :)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:08:30
for example if someone goes through the migration, but then rolls back.. should that system follow OCI updates or OSTree ?
<@hricky:fedora.im>
17:08:33
Is there already a description of how to test OCI migration?
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:09:12
if you neuter the migration script, ostree, if not, it will try to migrate again I suppose. i will test
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:10:03
currenlty it's quite involved but we will document everything and ship the tools with the F42 rebase
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:10:41
existing nodes won't migrate until a few releases after
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:12:07
If you can post a short summary (i.e. not the full commands) of what's needed to test, maybe some brave souls will give it a try :)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:13:03
Alright, let's move to open floor
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:13:08
it will be easier to test after the next release :)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:13:22
even if Beta doesn't ship next tuesday we're going to ship the updated zincati
<@jdoss:beeper.com>
17:13:30
Review my PR Dusty https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/pull/1165
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:13:37
!topic Open Floor
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:14:04
I've been planning on it, but have been busy with family stuff this week
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:14:30
Will do
<@jdoss:beeper.com>
17:15:18
All good. I don't know what it takes for Ignition and Afterburn releases and then for them to make into FCOS Next but I'd like these changes into Next so I can start using FCOS on proxmox without building a custom image.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:16:32
I can be fairly quick once the PR is merged. I haven't had the time to catch up on this topic either.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:18:00
I can do a review of the PR while dusty is OOO, but I'd also like others to review it
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:18:52
we need to review those changes carefully to adjust at some point
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:18:52
Jonathan Lebon: travier: FYI too. We've got a bit of a ticking time bomb in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/3376
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:18:52
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:19:55
ahh yes. thanks for bringing that up
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:20:28
i don't think the necessary changes are significant. just some renames happened
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:20:44
will take a look this week
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:20:54
👍️
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:20:57
it'd be nice actually if the PR linked to the diff in gitlab
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:21:12
It can be fairly quick once the PR is merged. I haven't had the time to catch up on this topic either.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:22:08
marmijo: If you can give it a try in a proxmox setup that would be great!
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:22:22
Not sure what it would take for us to get / setup one for testing
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:22:35
I can definitely do that
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:24:10
Will close this meeting at :25 if nothing else needs to be discussed
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:24:30
Renata Ravanelli: before the test day it would be great if we could get this PR merged: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-docs/pull/711
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:24:41
or if anyone else is able to test on applehv
<@ravanelli:matrix.org>
17:25:31
I need to finish other stuff around to get this one. But I will try to
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:28:51
Alright, closing
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:28:59
!endmeeting