2025-07-23 15:30:42 <@siosm:matrix.org> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
2025-07-23 15:30:45 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-07-23 15:30:42 UTC
2025-07-23 15:30:45 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
2025-07-23 15:30:47 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic roll call
2025-07-23 15:31:42 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !hi
2025-07-23 15:31:43 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michael Armijo (marmijo)
2025-07-23 15:31:49 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> !hi aaradhak
2025-07-23 15:31:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak)
2025-07-23 15:32:01 <@hricky:fedora.im> !hi
2025-07-23 15:32:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
2025-07-23 15:33:10 <@siosm:matrix.org> !hi
2025-07-23 15:33:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
2025-07-23 15:35:55 <@siosm:matrix.org> Looks like we don't have that many folks today
2025-07-23 15:36:07 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Action items from last meeting
2025-07-23 15:36:50 <@siosm:matrix.org> From https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2025-07-16/160372, we have one action item.
2025-07-23 15:36:56 <@siosm:matrix.org> marmijo to investigate the use of ostree and rpm-ostree to determine their relevance and integration as part of Package-specific RPM Macros For Build Flags changes.
2025-07-23 15:37:48 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Package-specific_RPM_Macros_For_Build_Flags
2025-07-23 15:38:15 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I spent some time looking into this last week and I don't believe the change will affect FCOS. The change introduces new flags to some macros used to set/override default compiler flags for C, C++, and Fortran packages. I checked ostree, rpm-ostree, and coreos-installer and, in those specific packages, we aren't using any of the macros mentioned in the change: `%{build_cflags}`, `%{build_cxxflags}`, `%{build_fflags}`, and `%{build_ldflags}`. We are using Rust flags and the default RPM build environment flags like `%configure` and `%make_build`, not C/C++, Fortran flags, so this change shouldn't affect our packages. If we were to introduce specific C/C++ compiler flags in our packages, we should be aware of the new flags for those macros.
2025-07-23 15:39:04 <@siosm:matrix.org> Great! Thanks! Do you mind copy/pasting that investigation in the ticket? Thanks
2025-07-23 15:39:13 <@marmijo:fedora.im> absolutely. I'll do that now
2025-07-23 15:39:27 <@siosm:matrix.org> Let's move on
2025-07-23 15:39:36 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Review Fedora 43 Release Schedule
2025-07-23 15:39:45 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-key-tasks.html
2025-07-23 15:40:12 <@siosm:matrix.org> We just crossed the Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Self Contained Changes)
2025-07-23 15:40:45 <@siosm:matrix.org> RPMs are going to be mass rebuilt soon. We should look out for failures.
2025-07-23 15:40:55 <@siosm:matrix.org> !info RPMs are going to be mass rebuilt soon. We should look out for failures
2025-07-23 15:41:19 <@siosm:matrix.org> !info RPMs are going to be mass rebuilt soon. We should look out for failures
2025-07-23 15:42:06 <@siosm:matrix.org> I think that's it?
2025-07-23 15:42:35 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> Yes I think so
2025-07-23 15:42:40 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic tracker: Fedora 43 changes considerations
2025-07-23 15:42:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1934
2025-07-23 15:43:25 <@siosm:matrix.org> So, 120 has been investigated.
2025-07-23 15:43:37 <@siosm:matrix.org> I see 208 as new
2025-07-23 15:43:55 <@siosm:matrix.org> !info 208. Disablement of STI tests
2025-07-23 15:43:57 <@jdoss:beeper.com> .hi
2025-07-23 15:44:00 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisableSTI
2025-07-23 15:44:36 <@jdoss:beeper.com> !hi
2025-07-23 15:44:38 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Joe Doss (jdoss)
2025-07-23 15:45:26 <@siosm:matrix.org> Looks like ignition (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rpm-ostree/blob/rawhide/f/tests) and rpm-ostree (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ignition/blob/rawhide/f/tests) will be impacted
2025-07-23 15:46:51 <@marmijo:fedora.im> We should create a separate tracker issue for this one. Are there any other packages that will be affected?
2025-07-23 15:46:53 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> do we have gating tests only for these two packages?
2025-07-23 15:47:04 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> do we have gating tests only for these two packages in fedora?
2025-07-23 15:47:40 <@siosm:matrix.org> From emails in my inbox and a quick local check, so far I think those are the only ones impacted
2025-07-23 15:47:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> creating an issue to track this would be great
2025-07-23 15:48:11 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> yes +1
2025-07-23 15:48:36 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> I can create a tracker issue
2025-07-23 15:48:56 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Thanks!
2025-07-23 15:49:06 <@siosm:matrix.org> great
2025-07-23 15:49:16 <@siosm:matrix.org> I don't think we rely on those tests for gating
2025-07-23 15:49:25 <@siosm:matrix.org> it's only for PRs if I'm not mistaken?
2025-07-23 15:49:39 <@siosm:matrix.org> but I could be wrong here
2025-07-23 15:50:27 <@siosm:matrix.org> We also have a lot of testing in other places so it's unlikely to impact us even if we don't get to it in time. I don't even know where to look for those test results
2025-07-23 15:51:29 <@siosm:matrix.org> alright, next one
2025-07-23 15:51:41 <@siosm:matrix.org> !info Dovecot 2.4
2025-07-23 15:51:48 <@siosm:matrix.org> easy, we don't ship this in FCOS
2025-07-23 15:52:06 <@siosm:matrix.org> !info 217. Switch the distribution default version of MySQL from MySQL 8.0 to MySQL 8.4
2025-07-23 15:52:12 <@siosm:matrix.org> same thing, we don't ship that
2025-07-23 15:52:31 <@siosm:matrix.org> !info 222. Modular GnuPG packaging
2025-07-23 15:52:38 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modular_GnuPG_Packaging
2025-07-23 15:55:08 <@siosm:matrix.org> Looks like we currently include the "all in" gnupg2 package
2025-07-23 15:56:15 <@siosm:matrix.org> it's pulled in manifests/file-transfer.yaml
2025-07-23 15:56:43 <@siosm:matrix.org> so we probably want to keep at least gnupg2-verify?
2025-07-23 15:58:14 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> That is something used to verify the fedora images when we download I believe. 
2025-07-23 15:59:08 <@siosm:matrix.org> ostree uses to verify the commit signatures but that's via the library if I'm not mistaken
2025-07-23 15:59:41 <@siosm:matrix.org> /usr/bin/gpgv2
2025-07-23 15:59:45 <@siosm:matrix.org> ah no, nevermind
2025-07-23 15:59:56 <@siosm:matrix.org> rpm -q --requires ostree| grep gpg
2025-07-23 16:00:35 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> I remember using gpg for verifications like these
2025-07-23 16:00:35 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> `gpg --verify fedora-coreos-${RELEASE}-qemu.x86_64.qcow2.xz.sig`
2025-07-23 16:00:35 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> 
2025-07-23 16:00:48 <@siosm:matrix.org> indeed
2025-07-23 16:01:34 <@siosm:matrix.org> hum, coreos-installer does not depend on it
2025-07-23 16:01:49 <@siosm:matrix.org> ah, it depends on gnupg directly
2025-07-23 16:02:03 <@siosm:matrix.org> ok, so we do need to do small changes for this
2025-07-23 16:03:01 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !hi
2025-07-23 16:03:04 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
2025-07-23 16:03:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> OK, should not be too difficult, we can make an issue to track it
2025-07-23 16:04:02 <@siosm:matrix.org> !info 223 Confidential Virtualization Host for Intel TDX
2025-07-23 16:04:10 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ConfidentialVirtHostIntelTDX
2025-07-23 16:05:01 <@siosm:matrix.org> Looks like this should not require an actions from us
2025-07-23 16:06:18 <@siosm:matrix.org> That's it and there are no other tickets marked for discussion, so I'll move to open floor
2025-07-23 16:06:37 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Open Floor
2025-07-23 16:07:56 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> 
2025-07-23 16:07:56 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> https://fedoraproject.org/en/coreos/download?stream=stable
2025-07-23 16:07:56 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> Just wanted to inform that we had a Fedora release for this week - 
2025-07-23 16:08:13 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> https://fedoraproject.org/en/coreos/download?stream=stable
2025-07-23 16:08:13 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> Just wanted to inform that we had a Fedora coreos release for this week - 
2025-07-23 16:08:13 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> 
2025-07-23 16:08:18 <@jdoss:beeper.com> Sorry for the interruption, I have to bounce to another meeting but I plan on getting the Proxmox docs sorted out this week.
2025-07-23 16:08:29 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> https://fedoraproject.org/en/coreos/download?stream=stable
2025-07-23 16:08:29 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> Just wanted to inform that we had a Fedora coreos release this week - 
2025-07-23 16:08:29 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> 
2025-07-23 16:08:44 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Thanks jdoss!
2025-07-23 16:11:38 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> Just wanted to inform that we had a Fedora CoreOS release this week - 
2025-07-23 16:11:38 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> 
2025-07-23 16:11:38 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> https://fedoraproject.org/en/coreos/download?stream=stable
2025-07-23 16:12:47 <@siosm:matrix.org> hum, apparently https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1967 should have been shipped with this release but I don't see the artifacts on the download website
2025-07-23 16:12:56 <@siosm:matrix.org> looking at the stream json to confirm
2025-07-23 16:14:39 <@siosm:matrix.org> it's in the json stream so maybe we did not update the website?
2025-07-23 16:15:13 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> Strange, I did see the oracle cloud in the json of rollout PR
2025-07-23 16:15:39 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Yeah its not showing on the FCOS release browser either, but it's in the meta.json of the builds
2025-07-23 16:16:16 <@siosm:matrix.org> hum, it's there: https://gitlab.com/fedora/websites-apps/fedora-websites/fedora-websites-3.0/-/merge_requests/1089/diffs
2025-07-23 16:19:02 <@siosm:matrix.org> ok, we'll figure that out later :)
2025-07-23 16:19:22 <@siosm:matrix.org> Closing this meeting in 2 minutes unless there is something else to discuss?
2025-07-23 16:19:47 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> the release  browser is up do date but probably needs to be re-deployed  : https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-browser/commit/8f63e06e84918a8b881297e0c6554304cb5ff13d
2025-07-23 16:21:01 <@siosm:matrix.org> OK, we'll need someone with access to do that. Not sure who has
2025-07-23 16:21:26 <@siosm:matrix.org> Let's close this meeting since there are no other topics :)
2025-07-23 16:21:34 <@siosm:matrix.org> !endmeeting