2025-08-21 16:00:25 <@james:fedora.im> !startmeeting fpc

2025-08-21 16:00:26 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-08-21 16:00:25 UTC
2025-08-21 16:00:26 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fpc'
2025-08-21 16:00:28 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2025-08-21 16:00:54 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> hey 👋
2025-08-21 16:00:59 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> I'm here, but distracted
2025-08-21 16:01:02 <@james:fedora.im> !hi
2025-08-21 16:01:03 <@zodbot:fedora.im> James Antill (james)
2025-08-21 16:01:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2025-08-21 16:01:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2025-08-21 16:01:40 <@james:fedora.im> Fabio Valentini: No problem ... not much to do today, I don't think.
2025-08-21 16:02:00 <@limb:fedora.im> !hi
2025-08-21 16:02:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gwyn Ciesla (limb) - she / her / hers
2025-08-21 16:05:12 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> !hi
2025-08-21 16:05:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his
2025-08-21 16:05:21 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2025-08-21 16:05:43 <@james:fedora.im> So ... I merged some PRs, and we have one newish one that can probably be merged: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1482
2025-08-21 16:05:51 <@james:fedora.im> Anyone else have anything to discuss?
2025-08-21 16:09:02 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> not yet
2025-08-21 16:09:11 <@limb:fedora.im> no
2025-08-21 16:09:19 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> not really
2025-08-21 16:09:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I suppose the only thing of real note is that there is an FHS project on freedesktop.org and people interested in it are invited to participate in discussions there
2025-08-21 16:09:55 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/FHS/fhs-spec
2025-08-21 16:10:05 <@james:fedora.im> One other thing I'd wondered about ... how do we feel about having this meeting every other week? Or maybe the 1st and 3rd Thursday of the month?
2025-08-21 16:10:19 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> hm. that would be fine with me 
2025-08-21 16:10:22 <@limb:fedora.im> That sounds reasonable.
2025-08-21 16:10:26 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> tbh, the main blocker to getting things moving is that I don't understand how this docbook stuff works and how to get CI working for it and a website going
2025-08-21 16:10:50 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> biweekly or monthly seem reasonable to me
2025-08-21 16:11:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> things don't pile up enough to warrant weekly
2025-08-21 16:11:52 <@james:fedora.im> I think there are a couple of people you can speak to in Fedora.
2025-08-21 16:12:17 <@james:fedora.im> Maybe ryanlerch?
2025-08-21 16:12:55 <@james:fedora.im> I'm pretty sure everyone working with docbook feels that way ;)
2025-08-21 16:13:13 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> if there was a good way to port to sphinx and rst, I'd do that
2025-08-21 16:13:31 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> pandoc -i docbook -o something_not_ancient :) 
2025-08-21 16:13:45 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> :D
2025-08-21 16:13:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'll have to look into it
2025-08-21 16:13:59 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> (not sure if that even is a thing)
2025-08-21 16:14:03 <@limb:fedora.im> Heck, even Markdown.
2025-08-21 16:14:08 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> but knowning pandoc, it probably is 
2025-08-21 16:14:20 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> well, I definitely still want the "book publishing features" so md is kind of out
2025-08-21 16:14:35 <@limb:fedora.im> I know, I was kidding. :)
2025-08-21 16:14:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and Fedora's usage of antora has given me a firm dislike of adoc
2025-08-21 16:14:41 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> (mdbook is kind of nice)
2025-08-21 16:15:12 <@james:fedora.im> https://github.com/microsoft/markitdown
2025-08-21 16:15:32 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> doesn't that use openai to do the thing?
2025-08-21 16:15:33 <@james:fedora.im> Ahh, n/m you said md wasn't good enough.
2025-08-21 16:15:44 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> sorry got pulled away for a moment, i'm also +1 to meeting every other week
2025-08-21 16:15:51 <@james:fedora.im> I think it's for openai, but doesn't use it.
2025-08-21 16:16:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> ah
2025-08-21 16:16:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> James: yeah the issue with md is that it doesn't have built-in publishing markup
2025-08-21 16:16:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's tool specific, which makes things fugly later
2025-08-21 16:16:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> only adoc and rst have publishing markup features
2025-08-21 16:16:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> well, and latex and docbook xml
2025-08-21 16:17:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but I'd rather not use either of those
2025-08-21 16:19:13 <@james:fedora.im> Fair enough
2025-08-21 16:20:41 <@james:fedora.im> Out of curiosity ... is that just for creating PDFs, or is the plan to print to actual paper?
2025-08-21 16:26:55 <@james:fedora.im> Okay, I'm going to give ya'll some time back ... and I've changed my calendar to be the 1st/3rd Thu. of the month. I'll try to update fedcal.
2025-08-21 16:27:00 <@james:fedora.im> !endmeeting