<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:30:07
!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:30:10
Meeting started at 2025-10-01 15:30:07 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
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The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:30:16
!topic roll call
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:30:22
!hi aaradhak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:30:23
Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak)
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
15:30:35
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:30:37
Yasmin Valim de Souza (ydesouza)
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:30:41
Hello Everyone 👋
<@hricky:fedora.im>
15:30:54
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:30:55
Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
15:30:58
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:30:59
Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:31:43
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:31:45
Michael Armijo (marmijo)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:32:27
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:32:29
Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:33:20
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:33:21
Steven Presti (spresti)
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:35:10
Alright , I guess we can get started
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:35:16
!topic Action items from last meeting
<@jcapitao:matrix.org>
15:36:15
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:36:17
No Fedora Accounts users have the @jcapitao:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:37:11
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:37:11
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:37:11
I think we have one action item from last week. It doesnt seem to get displayed by the bot though
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:37:31
dustymabe will post the followup action item checklist to https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2006 Yasmin will work with spresti on the action items. dustymabe will gain access to the recording and upload it to https://dustymabe.fedorapeople.org/meetings/
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:38:19
A few items in the checklist ticked off. A few left to go?
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:21
```
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:21
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:21
Yes below are the remaining to do boxes from the checklist
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:21
```
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:21
start to investigate the leading option(s)
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:21
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:21
reach out to flatcar folks for input on what was discussed
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:21
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:21
summarize discussion here in the ticket
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:39
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:39
start to investigate the leading option(s)
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:39
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:39
```
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:39
reach out to flatcar folks for input on what was discussed
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:39
Yes below are the remaining to-do items in the checklist
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:39
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:39
```
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:39:39
summarize discussion here in the ticket
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:40:43
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:40:43
Well, I tried to reach out to flatcar but have not been able to get an ack. Is there anyone else I could reach out to other then tormath1 as he might be not available.
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:40:43
I can take the summarize I have notes I can dump there.
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:21
```
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:21
Yes below are the remaining to-do items in the checklist
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:21
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:21
```
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:21
- summarize discussion here in the ticket
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:21
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:21
- reach out to flatcar folks for input on what was discussed
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:21
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:21
- start to investigate the leading option(s)
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:31
```
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:31
Yes below are the remaining to-do items in the checklist
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:31
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:31
```
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:31
- summarize discussion here in the ticket
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:31
- reach out to flatcar folks for input on what was discussed
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:41:31
- start to investigate the leading option(s)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:41:56
We might be able to get [Timothée Ravier (travier)](https://matrix.to/#/@siosm:matrix.org)to draw their attention. I think they are at the same conference he is at this week
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:42:26
Ahhh that would be great
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:42:36
Also might be able to send an email (sometimes that vector works)
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:43:16
Ok I can do that too, Ill ping him on github when I add the summary as well.
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
15:43:20
tormath1 and I live in the same city . I can go and bang at his door :D
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:44:42
I’d say let’s wait one more week and then start investigating next steps anyway
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
15:45:27
+1
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:46:22
+1
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:46:48
Sounds good!
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:47:12
Moving on to the next one on our list
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:47:37
!link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-key-tasks.html
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:47:37
!topic Review Fedora 43 Release Schedule
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:47:57
The final freeze is approaching
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:48:55
Coming up next week!
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:49:02
It begins on Oct 7 and the final target date is Oct 21
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:50:02
Thats coming up fast. Thanks dustymabe for fast tracking the downgraded package last week. I'll keep doing that every week.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:50:30
I believe we'll also start weekly releases of `next` during the final freeze period
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:51:19
I can assist on fast tracking the downgraded pkgs too .
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:52:22
marmijo: the "diff" process (I forget where that is documented) should be updated now to use `cosa diff`
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:52:35
marmijo: the "diff" process (I forget where that is documented) should be updated now to use `cosa diff --rpms`
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:53:12
Thanks, I updated my local script to use it!
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:54:39
Thanks for al the updates.
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:55:07
Moving on to our next item in our topics to discuss
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:55:24
!topic Introducing the fcos-assistant Bot
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:55:24
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1999
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
15:55:33
Thanks for all the updates.
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
15:56:16
I guess we already talked a little about it last week and had some ideas.
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
15:57:17
This week I talked with dustymabe about where should we host the bot and we talked about Communishift. I will take a look on that on friday since it's hackday.
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
15:57:17
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/sysadmin_guide/sop_communishift/
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:58:12
👍️
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:58:39
we can also join the fedora infra meeting (happens on thursdays) if we want to ask those folks about this
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:58:47
i.e. ask them if it's right for communishift
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:59:15
!link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/infrastructure/
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
15:59:30
Nice! I will add it in my calendar so I can join and ask about it.
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:59:47
they may tell us it's OK to have it in the prod official cluster
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:02:10
Are there any other comments or more to discuss here? We can move to the next one
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:02:24
I think not. Also we can remove the meeting label from this one
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:02:37
I will do that
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:02:51
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1934
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:02:51
!topic tracker: Fedora 43 changes considerations
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:03:35
I dont see any new changes since last week. We are up to date on this
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:04:38
We ll be moving to reviewing fedora 44 changes soon
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:05:22
We can move to our next topic
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:05:30
I can start a tracker for that with an initial list of change considerations
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:05:48
"that" being F44 changes :)
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:06:12
Sounds good, we can do that.
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:06:47
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1193
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:06:47
!topic Enable TPM support on AWS
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:08:43
I believe we discussed about this couple of weeks back. marmijo had expressed interest to investigate this further. Do we have any updates that needs to be discussed?
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:09:41
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:09:41
Action Item: The next step would be to investigate on the compatibility question. There was also a suggestion that we should be able to create the AMI in our normal flow by just appending the tpm support flag when we register the image.
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:09:41
Also, this was the action item with regards to this issue
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:09:49
`Action Item: The next step would be to investigate on the compatibility question. There was also a suggestion that we should be able to create the AMI in our normal flow by just appending the tpm support flag when we register the image.`
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:09:49
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:09:49
Also, this was the action item with regards to this issue
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:11:33
I did some initial investigation into this. It doesn't seem like TPM 2.0 would break older instance types unless we set the boot mode to "eufi-only", since some older instance types are BIOS only. Using "uefi-preferred" might be an option. Enabling TPM 2.0 on an AMI doesn't break compatibility with older instance types by default, but I still need to investigate further.
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:13:29
Thanks for that update marmijo !
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:14:29
May be we can bring this up again in our next meeting ?
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:14:41
marmijo: if that's the case would you want to open a PR to make that change?
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:14:46
May be we can bring this up again in our next meeting after further investigation?
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:14:56
luckily the change is simple IIUC
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:15:38
sure, I'll do some testing with the change and open a PR
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:17:09
Alright, any other comments on this?
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:17:40
I think we have covered all the topics for today
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:17:57
We can move to Open Floor
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:18:09
!topic Open Floor
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:18:33
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:18:33
Thank you to Yasmin Valim de Souza for organizing it and doing such a great job with reminders
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:18:33
Thank you to everyone who participated in the test day this cycle!
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:18:50
No Fedora Accounts users have the @aaradhak:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
16:19:47
Thank you! And thanks everyone for the effort! ✨️
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:19:59
Did we find any bugs that need to be looked into?
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:20:03
marmijo has already given cookies to ydesouza during the F42 timeframe
<@nemric:relativit.fr>
16:20:09
I did my best but wan't able to pxeboot my testing node with f43 😕 I'm waiting for stable/next releases to going forward with f43 node this week
<@nemric:relativit.fr>
16:20:29
I did my best but wasn't able to pxeboot my testing node with f43 😕 I'm waiting for stable/next releases to going forward with f43 node this week
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:20:44
Nemric: odd. did you open an issue for that?
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
16:21:47
Besides this error that Nemric mentioned, we just had Huijing problems to switching stream from stable/testing to next.
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
16:22:11
And I also had a problem with OS extensions, but we already had a issue for that.
<@nemric:relativit.fr>
16:22:22
not yet, because it's not easy to know what's happening, some dracut init queue always waiting with some udev reference ... I don't have hands on terminal to extracts logs
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:22:56
Nemric: maybe open an issue with what you do know and say you'll add more information later
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:23:13
fifofonix: may use PXE for some things. I can't remember
<@nemric:relativit.fr>
16:23:46
And, why this week 'next' release doesn't ship latest stable 6.17 kernel but rc7 ?
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:24:30
Yasmin Valim de Souza: The issue for switching streams.. We ended up doing https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-docs/pull/761
<@nemric:relativit.fr>
16:24:43
you wait for it became stable on fedora pakage ?
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
16:25:13
Thanks for working on that!
<@nemric:relativit.fr>
16:25:14
here : https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=kernel
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:25:30
Nemric: we did the `next` build the day before it went `stable` in bodhi
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:25:56
don't worry, it will be there next week :)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:26:15
or if you want to test it now: https://builds.coreos.fedoraproject.org/browser?stream=next-devel&arch=x86_64
<@nemric:relativit.fr>
16:26:28
I don't worry at all ! I broke and learn everyday 😉
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:30:25
We have reached the end of our meeting time.
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:31:04
Any more comments to add before I end the meeitng?
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:32:23
Thank you everyone for joining our Community meeting today 🙏
<@nemric:relativit.fr>
16:32:31
thanks aaradhak and team 🙂
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:32:32
Have a wonderful day!
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:32:48
Thanks you aaradhak for running the meeting today!
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:32:48
Thanks for running the meeting aaradhak!
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:32:49
!endmeeting