2025-10-30 16:00:04 <@james:fedora.im> !startmeeting fpc
2025-10-30 16:00:06 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-10-30 16:00:04 UTC
2025-10-30 16:00:06 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fpc'
2025-10-30 16:00:13 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2025-10-30 16:00:49 <@james:fedora.im> Hey
2025-10-30 16:02:50 <@limb:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-30 16:02:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gwyn Ciesla (limb) - she / her / hers
2025-10-30 16:03:08 <@james:fedora.im> Woo ... someone else turned up ;)
2025-10-30 16:03:19 <@limb:fedora.im> OMG I'm someone now!
2025-10-30 16:03:49 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-30 16:03:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his
2025-10-30 16:08:06 <@james:fedora.im> !topic FPC PR#1498 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1498
2025-10-30 16:08:28 <@james:fedora.im> Ony 3 of us, but churchyard has responded a lot to this and +1'd the latest version.
2025-10-30 16:08:34 <@james:fedora.im> Only 3 of us, but churchyard has responded a lot to this and +1'd the latest version.
2025-10-30 16:09:38 <@limb:fedora.im> I thought I'd already +1ed. I will now.
2025-10-30 16:10:39 <@limb:fedora.im> I love vendored dependencies as much as I love static compilation, but we may as well do it well if we're doing it at all....
2025-10-30 16:11:21 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> i haven't had time to look over this yet, but will make a point to soon
2025-10-30 16:11:40 <@james:fedora.im> I think it's a bit different for go/rust where everything is static builds.
2025-10-30 16:11:44 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> i'm assuming this is still built around the gometa magic stuff?
2025-10-30 16:11:49 <@limb:fedora.im> Right
2025-10-30 16:12:26 <@james:fedora.im> `go2rpm` is the main tool.
2025-10-30 16:12:28 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> don't love that detail, but i am in favor of the overall direction of vendoring.  go dep sprawl is just nuts.
2025-10-30 16:12:37 <@limb:fedora.im> Truly.
2025-10-30 16:13:13 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> i avoid gometa like i avoid forgemeta, way too much complex lua code for too little benefit
2025-10-30 16:13:38 <@limb:fedora.im> Eventually we'll have turing-complete spec files.
2025-10-30 16:13:53 <@james:fedora.im> Pretty close for a long time
2025-10-30 16:14:08 <@limb:fedora.im> We could use them to write firmware for Emacs.
2025-10-30 16:14:52 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> i am curious which parts of the new go guidelines will be MUST vs SHOULD vs MAY
2025-10-30 16:15:02 <@james:fedora.im> haha ... `emacs` isn't big enough anymore, it's `vscode` or something similarly much bigger than `emacs` now.
2025-10-30 16:15:17 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> basically, how much of the caddy spec file will i have to change to be compliant
2025-10-30 16:15:41 <@james:fedora.im> ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
2025-10-30 16:19:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-30 16:19:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2025-10-30 16:19:58 <@salimma:fedora.im> sorry, one of those days
2025-10-30 16:20:15 <@limb:fedora.im> s/days/decades/
2025-10-30 16:20:32 <@salimma:fedora.im> I hope I won't be coming in late for decades at least :P
2025-10-30 16:20:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> but yeah
2025-10-30 16:22:16 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2025-10-30 16:23:21 <@james:fedora.im> We should pro bably look at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1495
2025-10-30 16:23:48 <@james:fedora.im> Maybe can just shrug approve it with only 4 + Fabio Valentini
2025-10-30 16:27:10 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> uh, sorry, DST change .. 
2025-10-30 16:27:51 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> but yeah I'm +1 to saying "this is covered by the review exception for existing packages"
2025-10-30 16:28:45 <@salimma:fedora.im> seems fine to me
2025-10-30 16:28:46 <@salimma:fedora.im> +1
2025-10-30 16:29:55 <@limb:fedora.im> Same, +1
2025-10-30 16:30:11 <@gotmax:matrix.org> Not entirely. gometa is still available to use but it's no longer required and the Guidelines have a specfile example without it.
2025-10-30 16:30:20 <@james:fedora.im> Carl George: you want to be number 5?
2025-10-30 16:30:49 <@gotmax:matrix.org> The new vendoring macros are completely detached from gometa, but it can still be used to specify/unpack sources if desired, and that's still what go2rpm does by default
2025-10-30 16:31:55 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> nice, now i'm excited to look over things.  thanks for working on that.
2025-10-30 16:32:18 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> looks legit to me, +1
2025-10-30 16:32:33 <@james:fedora.im> Okay, going to approve.
2025-10-30 16:33:31 <@james:fedora.im> Anything else anyone wants to talk about?
2025-10-30 16:35:03 <@limb:fedora.im> Not I.
2025-10-30 16:44:17 <@james:fedora.im> Okay, I'm going to give you all some time back ... the next meeting will be the week before Thanksgiving. 
2025-10-30 16:44:31 <@james:fedora.im> !endmeeting