#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:00:46

!startmeeting Fedora Atomic Initiative

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:50

Meeting started at 2026-01-27 15:00:46 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:50

The Meeting name is 'Fedora Atomic Initiative'

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:00:55

!topic roll call

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:01:03

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:05

Laura Santamaria (nimbinatus) - she / her / hers

<@jeckersb:fedora.im>

15:01:07

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:09

John Eckersberg (jeckersb)

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:01:10

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:11

Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:01:14

We'll start the agenda ~7 after

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

15:06:16

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:06:17

Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:07:31

Agenda time!

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:07:50

!topic Updates for Flock

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:08:20

Clément Verna was mentioning a submission for Flock for a BoF about the initiative. I know you have to hop early, so if you're on, want to give an update?

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:10:06

I'll put a pin in that topic and revisit later in the meeting in case he can join us later.

<@cverna_:matrix.org>

15:10:15

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:10:21

Clement Verna (cverna) - he / him / his

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:10:26

ha, whoops! Go for it :)

<@cverna_:matrix.org>

15:12:13

Thanks nimbinatus , the Flock CFP ends next monday, so we are trying to think about topic related to Atomic/Bootc

<@cverna_:matrix.org>

15:13:37

One idea is to have a BoF (Birds of feather) session, which is an open discussion, to discuss about Atomic and ask questions

<@cverna_:matrix.org>

15:14:03

If anyone is interested in organizing or helping to organize, please let me know :-)

<@cverna_:matrix.org>

15:17:53

!link https://cfp.fedoraproject.org/flock-to-fedora-2026/cfp

<@cverna_:matrix.org>

15:18:26

that's all from me, any other questions on the topic?

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:19:44

I don't think so on my end :) Thank you!

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:20:07

I'll give folks a couple minutes to start typing, and then we'll move to the next topic

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:21:45

I have no experience in organizing events.

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:23:39

For BoF type sessions, most of it is writing up seed questions, for example, to kick off discussions or help drive more thinking when it gets quiet.

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:23:39

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:23:39

I do, and I could coach you (not sure I can personally make it for various reasons) if that's something you're interested in! That applies for anyone interested :)

<@cverna_:matrix.org>

15:24:43

Yes an ideally we can have a couple of people leading the session. It is nicer

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:27:15

I want to keep the conversation moving as I know there were some questions folks wanted to get to, but please don't be afraid to ask more questions or comment more on the topic even though we're moving on :) I think we can follow who's asking about what.

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:27:24

!topic Quick administrivia updates

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:27:52

I mostly want to leave some links here for folks in case this is where they get their news about the initiative. Then we'll move to open floor to ask questions.

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:28:07

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-using-konflux-for-bootc-based-artifacts-selfcontained/179522

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:29:02

^^ The change proposal is in discussion. I need to answer questions (and Timothée left some links that I need to read up on), but if you have anything you want to add to it, the thread is open to all to discuss!

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

15:30:04

Interestingly we want to do the same for FCOS in F44 but this likely won't cut it because images built by Konflux are currently signed by a key that is not distributed by fedora

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

15:30:16

See https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-build-fcos-on-fedora-konflux-selfcontained/179534/14

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:30:39

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-build-fcos-on-fedora-konflux-selfcontained/179534/14

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:31:02

(side note: really wish meetbot could do inline exclamation commands...)

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:31:08

Interesting; reading now

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

15:31:19

Ah I should have read Timothée's comments

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

15:31:30

he raised the same concern

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:32:35

So this sounds like something we need to address 🤔

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:33:44

Right now, the initiative's scope for F44 is, in part, using Konflux to start building a beta image as a base for Atomics and other bootc-based builds to see where the pain points are.

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:33:55

Then F45 will be the production version

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:35:22

So if I'm reading correctly on a quick read, we need keys specifically for Fedora's Konflux instance, that are scoped only to that instance, to ensure that the official artifacts are Fedora signed?

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:36:33

this is something I can take to the Konflux steering group when I meet later this week to find out what the steps are to do that, if its something we need upstream to fix or weigh in on

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

15:40:58

- either have the konflux key distributed by fedora security

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

15:40:58

as i understand it, the issue is setting up a process in place to

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

15:40:58

- have a blessed tekton task that submit container images to be signed by fedora. But fedora don't support signing container images yet

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:45:29

!info The artifacts currently built by Konflux lack a signature from Fedora's keys. A process needs to go into place to either have the Konflux key distributed by Fedora Security or have a blessed Tekton task to submit container images to be signed by Fedora (after getting Fedora systems to support signing container images).

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:46:27

Just grabbing that in an info box for the meeting notes. Thanks for the context, jbtrystram !

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:47:24

I want to give Hristo Marinov a chance to ask the docs questions needed. Let's put a pin in this part of the discussion, and we can keep poking at it as we go in the #bootc:fedoraproject.org channel.

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:47:33

!topic docs questions

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:48:05

On the previous topic:

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:48:13

nimbinatus gave a cookie to jbtrystram. They now have 3 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 43 release cycle

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:48:25

I can at least try to learn more about it. Is there a guide?

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:49:32

Not exactly, but I can try to do a quick writeup to get you started?

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:50:53

I'll write something up for you and drop it in our channel and tag you then

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:51:08

I'm currently trying to answer most of the booc-related questions in the Fedora Discussion, but this is probably different.

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:52:51

I mean, at least I have some idea of what people are asking about.

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:53:38

It won't be that different other than you probably will get more questions about contributing, I think, at flock than you would in the discussions forum

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:54:24

I could be wrong though!

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:56:07

The other topic is not very important, so let's leave it for the next meeting.

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:57:38

all right, that's fine

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:58:10

ok, folks, I think that about wraps it up, then! I'll end the meeting here and we can chat more async in the channel :)

<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>

15:58:16

!endmeeting