2026-01-27 15:00:46 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !startmeeting Fedora Atomic Initiative
2026-01-27 15:00:50 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2026-01-27 15:00:46 UTC
2026-01-27 15:00:50 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora Atomic Initiative'
2026-01-27 15:00:55 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !topic roll call
2026-01-27 15:01:03 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !hi
2026-01-27 15:01:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Laura Santamaria (nimbinatus) - she / her / hers
2026-01-27 15:01:07 <@jeckersb:fedora.im> !hi
2026-01-27 15:01:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> John Eckersberg (jeckersb)
2026-01-27 15:01:10 <@hricky:fedora.im> !hi
2026-01-27 15:01:11 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
2026-01-27 15:01:14 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> We'll start the agenda ~7 after
2026-01-27 15:06:16 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !hi
2026-01-27 15:06:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
2026-01-27 15:07:31 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> Agenda time!
2026-01-27 15:07:50 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !topic Updates for Flock
2026-01-27 15:08:20 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> Clément Verna was mentioning a submission for Flock for a BoF about the initiative. I know you have to hop early, so if you're on, want to give an update?
2026-01-27 15:10:06 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> I'll put a pin in that topic and revisit later in the meeting in case he can join us later.
2026-01-27 15:10:15 <@cverna_:matrix.org> !hi
2026-01-27 15:10:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Clement Verna (cverna) - he / him / his
2026-01-27 15:10:26 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> ha, whoops! Go for it :)
2026-01-27 15:12:13 <@cverna_:matrix.org> Thanks nimbinatus , the Flock CFP ends next monday, so we are trying to think about topic related to Atomic/Bootc
2026-01-27 15:13:37 <@cverna_:matrix.org> One idea is to have a BoF (Birds of feather) session, which is an open discussion, to discuss about Atomic and ask questions
2026-01-27 15:14:03 <@cverna_:matrix.org> If anyone is interested in organizing or helping to organize, please let me know :-) 
2026-01-27 15:17:53 <@cverna_:matrix.org> !link https://cfp.fedoraproject.org/flock-to-fedora-2026/cfp
2026-01-27 15:18:26 <@cverna_:matrix.org> that's all from me, any other questions on the topic?
2026-01-27 15:19:44 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> I don't think so on my end :) Thank you!
2026-01-27 15:20:07 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> I'll give folks a couple minutes to start typing, and then we'll move to the next topic
2026-01-27 15:21:45 <@hricky:fedora.im> I have no experience in organizing events.
2026-01-27 15:23:39 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> For BoF type sessions, most of it is writing up seed questions, for example, to kick off discussions or help drive more thinking when it gets quiet.
2026-01-27 15:23:39 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> 
2026-01-27 15:23:39 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> I do, and I could coach you (not sure I can personally make it for various reasons) if that's something you're interested in! That applies for anyone interested :)
2026-01-27 15:24:43 <@cverna_:matrix.org> Yes an ideally we can have a couple of people leading the session. It is nicer
2026-01-27 15:27:15 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> I want to keep the conversation moving as I know there were some questions folks wanted to get to, but please don't be afraid to ask more questions or comment more on the topic even though we're moving on :) I think we can follow who's asking about what.
2026-01-27 15:27:24 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !topic Quick administrivia updates
2026-01-27 15:27:52 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> I mostly want to leave some links here for folks in case this is where they get their news about the initiative. Then we'll move to open floor to ask questions.
2026-01-27 15:28:07 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-using-konflux-for-bootc-based-artifacts-selfcontained/179522
2026-01-27 15:29:02 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> ^^ The change proposal is in discussion. I need to answer questions (and Timothée left some links that I need to read up on), but if you have anything you want to add to it, the thread is open to all to discuss!
2026-01-27 15:30:04 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> Interestingly we want to do the same for FCOS in F44 but this likely won't cut it because images built by Konflux are currently signed by a key that is not distributed by fedora 
2026-01-27 15:30:16 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> See https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-build-fcos-on-fedora-konflux-selfcontained/179534/14
2026-01-27 15:30:39 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-build-fcos-on-fedora-konflux-selfcontained/179534/14
2026-01-27 15:31:02 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> (side note: really wish meetbot could do inline exclamation commands...)
2026-01-27 15:31:08 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> Interesting; reading now
2026-01-27 15:31:19 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> Ah I should have read Timothée's comments
2026-01-27 15:31:30 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> he raised the same concern
2026-01-27 15:32:35 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> So this sounds like something we need to address 🤔
2026-01-27 15:33:44 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> Right now, the initiative's scope for F44 is, in part, using Konflux to start building a beta image as a base for Atomics and other bootc-based builds to see where the pain points are.
2026-01-27 15:33:55 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> Then F45 will be the production version
2026-01-27 15:35:22 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> So if I'm reading correctly on a quick read, we need keys specifically for Fedora's Konflux instance, that are scoped only to that instance, to ensure that the official artifacts are Fedora signed?
2026-01-27 15:36:33 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> this is something I can take to the Konflux steering group when I meet later this week to find out what the steps are to do that, if its something we need upstream to fix or weigh in on
2026-01-27 15:40:58 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> - either have the konflux key distributed by fedora security
2026-01-27 15:40:58 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> as i understand it, the issue is setting up a process in place to 
2026-01-27 15:40:58 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> - have a blessed tekton task that submit container images to be signed by fedora. But fedora don't support signing container images yet
2026-01-27 15:45:29 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !info The artifacts currently built by Konflux lack a signature from Fedora's keys. A process needs to go into place to either have the Konflux key distributed by Fedora Security or have a blessed Tekton task to submit container images to be signed by Fedora (after getting Fedora systems to support signing container images).
2026-01-27 15:46:27 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> Just grabbing that in an info box for the meeting notes. Thanks for the context, jbtrystram !
2026-01-27 15:47:24 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> I want to give Hristo Marinov a chance to ask the docs questions needed. Let's put a pin in this part of the discussion, and we can keep poking at it as we go in the #bootc:fedoraproject.org channel.
2026-01-27 15:47:33 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !topic docs questions
2026-01-27 15:48:05 <@hricky:fedora.im> On the previous topic:
2026-01-27 15:48:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> nimbinatus gave a cookie to jbtrystram. They now have 3 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 43 release cycle
2026-01-27 15:48:25 <@hricky:fedora.im> I can at least try to learn more about it. Is there a guide?
2026-01-27 15:49:32 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> Not exactly, but I can try to do a quick writeup to get you started?
2026-01-27 15:50:53 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> I'll write something up for you and drop it in our channel and tag you then
2026-01-27 15:51:08 <@hricky:fedora.im> I'm currently trying to answer most of the booc-related questions in the Fedora Discussion, but this is probably different.
2026-01-27 15:52:51 <@hricky:fedora.im> I mean, at least I have some idea of ​​what people are asking about.
2026-01-27 15:53:38 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> It won't be that different other than you probably will get more questions about contributing, I think, at flock than you would in the discussions forum
2026-01-27 15:54:24 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> I could be wrong though!
2026-01-27 15:56:07 <@hricky:fedora.im> The other topic is not very important, so let's leave it for the next meeting.
2026-01-27 15:57:38 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> all right, that's fine
2026-01-27 15:58:10 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> ok, folks, I think that about wraps it up, then! I'll end the meeting here and we can chat more async in the channel :)
2026-01-27 15:58:16 <@nimbinatus:matrix.org> !endmeeting