#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:38:45

!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:38:49

Meeting started at 2026-01-28 15:38:45 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:38:50

The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:38:53

!topic roll call

<@ravanelli:matrix.org>

15:39:32

!hi ravanelli

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:39:34

Renata Ravanelli (ravanelli)

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:39:36

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:39:38

Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:39:46

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:39:48

Michael Armijo (marmijo)

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:40:42

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:40:43

Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:40:59

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:41:01

Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his

<@rapneset:matrix.org>

15:41:06

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:41:08

No Fedora Accounts users have the @rapneset:matrix.org Matrix Account defined

<@angelcr:matrix.org>

15:41:35

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:41:38

No Fedora Accounts users have the @angelcr:matrix.org Matrix Account defined

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:43:51

Angel Cervera RoldanYou should setup your matrix account in FAS (fedora account system)

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:44:06

rapnesetsame idea

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:44:19

!topic Action items from last meeting

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:44:46

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2026-01-14/179558

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:44:55

We had 2 actions:

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:45:00

spresti to organize video community meeting for next week and send communication to the mailing list/forum about it.

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:45:23

That happened last week. Recording and notes in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/GDRSZFVXNZH3WI36WL75EZXZYYR3JZOE/

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:45:53

!info We had a video meeting last week to talk about Ignition extensions

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:45:58

!link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/GDRSZFVXNZH3WI36WL75EZXZYYR3JZOE/

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

15:46:02

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:46:05

Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:46:28

Second action item is: "spresti to look into kmscon change"

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:46:45

spresti Are you here to talk about this?

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:48:04

I can see he opened https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2092 so that's a great start

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:49:46

let's move on

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:49:55

!topic Review Fedora 44 Release Schedule

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:50:00

!link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-44/f-44-key-tasks.html

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:51:19

Mass rebuild has happened if I'm not mistaken

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:51:33

Looks like next week any changes that we've proposed need to be testable

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:52:22

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/6TI2ZN6GRPJHGELGHWATSXUITOO7EBBQ/

<@jcapitao:matrix.org>

15:53:25

!hi

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:53:26

I think the mass rebuild already landed in rawhide

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:53:28

Joel Capitao (jcapitao) - he / him / his

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:53:32

We should check if all our packages successfully built for F44

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:53:48

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2026-52976614ef

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:55:21

Latest rawhide is from 7 days ago https://builds.coreos.fedoraproject.org/browser?stream=rawhide&arch=x86_64

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:55:30

so unfortuabntely we can not check that easily

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:56:05

yeah. we've been failing because systemd dropped systemd-pam down to a recommends

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:56:23

I opened a PR to bootc: https://gitlab.com/fedora/bootc/base-images/-/merge_requests/350

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:56:27

it merged

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:56:47

but unfortunately there's been no new builds of bootc since early january (https://gitlab.com/fedora/bootc/tracker/-/issues/84)

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:56:57

but unfortunately there's been no new builds of bootc rawhide since early january (https://gitlab.com/fedora/bootc/tracker/-/issues/84)

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:57:34

we could add systemd-pam to our package lists, but really.. it's frustrating.

<@siosm:matrix.org>

15:57:49

ok let's work around that in our config as this is a small change and we'll revert it later?

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:58:22

I just hate doing that.. all these little things build up and we forget

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:58:41

but yeah. let's just get unblocked :(

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:00:33

OK I don't see any FTBFS in my email so our packages should be OK for F44

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:00:50

I'll open a PR

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:01:04

It would also be a good time to do https://github.com/coreos/ssh-key-dir/issues/188. I'll start taht

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:02:51

So like Dusty said, the next step in the schedule is to get all our F44 changes ready for testing by 2026-02-03

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:03:42

ah, but our change is still pending FESCo vote, so we can not do it fully yet

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:03:50

well we have things in rawhide at least

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:05:28

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-build-fcos-on-fedora-konflux-selfcontained/179534/13

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:05:34

I asked some questions there

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:05:56

But lots of people are away for FOSDEM right now

<@jcapitao:matrix.org>

16:07:06

thank you Timothée, the signing workflow is also blocking fedora-bootc to officially move to Konflux

<@jcapitao:matrix.org>

16:09:15

(oh that's what you put in the thread comment)

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:09:47

OK let's move on. This is important but we can not solve that here

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:09:55

(the signature issue)

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:10:17

!topic tracker: Fedora 44 changes considerations

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:10:23

!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2063

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:10:48

marmijoanything specific to look at?

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:12:08

121, 220, and 221 are new. I figured 220 wont affect FCOS.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:12:21

121.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:12:23

!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Automatic_DTB_selection_for_aarch64_EFI_systems

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:14:01

So if I understood this one correctly, this adds a new kernel package for aarch64 which is a "kind of an UKI" but with just a kernel and DTB files

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:14:36

so this should not impact us, but we may want to switch to this kernel by default for our aarch64 streams to get support for more hardware out of the box

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:15:21

This is mostly targeted at Windows on Arm (WoA) laptops right now and this is not really our primary target

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:15:40

usually aarch64 server hardware do UEFI properly nowadays

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:16:28

Sounds good, I'll add a note to the tracker about it

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:17:01

221.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:17:02

!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Podman6

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:17:22

So I guess we can create an issue to track this but I don't think it's needed immediately for F44 for FCOS

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:17:54

(last line was for the previous topic)

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:18:25

Podman 6 is a bigger one and there was a lot of discussion in the FESCo meeting as it's not yet fully sure that they will be able to land that in F44

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:18:54

notably there is the migration code from boltdb to sqlite that has to land in 5.8 and then they have to make the 6.0 release

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:19:42

we "kind of" already have a tracking issue for that: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2073

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:21:18

Okay, great. Seems like we're aware of it and it might not land in F44 anyway. I'll link this tracker issue to the change considerations issue and make a note in the change entry about this.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:21:57

Those were the only new change considerations this week

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:22:56

Ah, one more small update: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Enforcing_signature_checking_by_default was deferred to F45

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:23:36

We were tracking that with https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2085

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:23:46

We were/are tracking that with https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2085

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:24:16

we'll need to update this one. I can create the new labels

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:24:41

OK, we are almost at time so let's move to open floor

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:24:51

!topic Open Floor

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:25:46

Flock CFP is Feb 2nd I think

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:26:12

I think our lab last year got rejected

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:26:12

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:26:12

any ideas on talks? Should we try to do a lab?

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

16:27:54

We are planning a lab with Alice on running k3s on top of FCOS

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:28:07

I'm (temporarily) removing myself from the meeting rotation: https://hackmd.io/OSVZR5vETkmKuA9A_KAzUg?view

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:28:46

It would be good if some new faces could give it a try. Mayba Angel Cervera Roldan or Rolv Apneseth?

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:29:07

It would be good if some new faces could give it a try. Maybe Angel Cervera Roldan or Rolv Apneseth?

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:29:21

I always think an intro to FCOS lab is useful. If they reject it there's nothing we can do, but we can still try

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>

16:30:00

Clément Verna: is also planning a general image mode BOF

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:30:38

I'm happy to help represent CoreOS there (If I end up being able to go)

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:33:49

Alright, thanks everyone, closing this one

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:33:59

!endmeeting