2026-01-28 15:38:45 <@siosm:matrix.org> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
2026-01-28 15:38:49 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2026-01-28 15:38:45 UTC
2026-01-28 15:38:50 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
2026-01-28 15:38:53 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic roll call
2026-01-28 15:39:32 <@ravanelli:matrix.org> !hi ravanelli
2026-01-28 15:39:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Renata Ravanelli (ravanelli)
2026-01-28 15:39:36 <@siosm:matrix.org> !hi
2026-01-28 15:39:38 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
2026-01-28 15:39:46 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !hi
2026-01-28 15:39:48 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michael Armijo (marmijo)
2026-01-28 15:40:42 <@hricky:fedora.im> !hi
2026-01-28 15:40:43 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
2026-01-28 15:40:59 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> !hi
2026-01-28 15:41:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
2026-01-28 15:41:06 <@rapneset:matrix.org> !hi
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2026-01-28 15:41:35 <@angelcr:matrix.org> !hi
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2026-01-28 15:43:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> Angel Cervera RoldanYou should setup your matrix account in FAS (fedora account system)
2026-01-28 15:44:06 <@siosm:matrix.org> rapnesetsame idea
2026-01-28 15:44:19 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Action items from last meeting
2026-01-28 15:44:46 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2026-01-14/179558
2026-01-28 15:44:55 <@siosm:matrix.org> We had 2 actions:
2026-01-28 15:45:00 <@siosm:matrix.org> spresti to organize video community meeting for next week and send communication to the mailing list/forum about it.
2026-01-28 15:45:23 <@siosm:matrix.org> That happened last week. Recording and notes in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/GDRSZFVXNZH3WI36WL75EZXZYYR3JZOE/
2026-01-28 15:45:53 <@siosm:matrix.org> !info We had a video meeting last week to talk about Ignition extensions
2026-01-28 15:45:58 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/GDRSZFVXNZH3WI36WL75EZXZYYR3JZOE/
2026-01-28 15:46:02 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !hi
2026-01-28 15:46:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
2026-01-28 15:46:28 <@siosm:matrix.org> Second action item is: "spresti to look into kmscon change"
2026-01-28 15:46:45 <@siosm:matrix.org> spresti Are you here to talk about this?
2026-01-28 15:48:04 <@siosm:matrix.org> I can see he opened https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2092 so that's a great start
2026-01-28 15:49:46 <@siosm:matrix.org> let's move on
2026-01-28 15:49:55 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Review Fedora 44 Release Schedule
2026-01-28 15:50:00 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-44/f-44-key-tasks.html
2026-01-28 15:51:19 <@siosm:matrix.org> Mass rebuild has happened if I'm not mistaken
2026-01-28 15:51:33 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Looks like next week any changes that we've proposed need to be testable
2026-01-28 15:52:22 <@siosm:matrix.org> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/6TI2ZN6GRPJHGELGHWATSXUITOO7EBBQ/
2026-01-28 15:53:25 <@jcapitao:matrix.org> !hi
2026-01-28 15:53:26 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I think the mass rebuild already landed in rawhide
2026-01-28 15:53:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Joel Capitao (jcapitao) - he / him / his
2026-01-28 15:53:32 <@siosm:matrix.org> We should check if all our packages successfully built for F44
2026-01-28 15:53:48 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2026-52976614ef
2026-01-28 15:55:21 <@siosm:matrix.org> Latest rawhide is from 7 days ago https://builds.coreos.fedoraproject.org/browser?stream=rawhide&arch=x86_64
2026-01-28 15:55:30 <@siosm:matrix.org> so unfortuabntely we can not check that easily
2026-01-28 15:56:05 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> yeah. we've been failing because systemd dropped systemd-pam down to a recommends
2026-01-28 15:56:23 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I opened a PR to bootc: https://gitlab.com/fedora/bootc/base-images/-/merge_requests/350
2026-01-28 15:56:27 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> it merged
2026-01-28 15:56:47 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> but unfortunately there's been no new builds of bootc since early january (https://gitlab.com/fedora/bootc/tracker/-/issues/84) 
2026-01-28 15:56:57 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> but unfortunately there's been no new builds of bootc rawhide since early january (https://gitlab.com/fedora/bootc/tracker/-/issues/84) 
2026-01-28 15:57:34 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> we could add systemd-pam to our package lists, but really.. it's frustrating.
2026-01-28 15:57:49 <@siosm:matrix.org> ok let's work around that in our config as this is a small change and we'll revert it later?
2026-01-28 15:58:22 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I just hate doing that.. all these little things build up and we forget 
2026-01-28 15:58:41 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> but yeah. let's just get unblocked :( 
2026-01-28 16:00:33 <@siosm:matrix.org> OK I don't see any FTBFS in my email so our packages should be OK for F44
2026-01-28 16:00:50 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I'll open a PR
2026-01-28 16:01:04 <@siosm:matrix.org> It would also be a good time to do https://github.com/coreos/ssh-key-dir/issues/188. I'll start taht
2026-01-28 16:02:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> So like Dusty said, the next step in the schedule is to get all our F44 changes ready for testing by 2026-02-03
2026-01-28 16:03:42 <@siosm:matrix.org> ah, but our change is still pending FESCo vote, so we can not do it fully yet
2026-01-28 16:03:50 <@siosm:matrix.org> well we have things in rawhide at least
2026-01-28 16:05:28 <@siosm:matrix.org> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-build-fcos-on-fedora-konflux-selfcontained/179534/13
2026-01-28 16:05:34 <@siosm:matrix.org> I asked some questions there
2026-01-28 16:05:56 <@siosm:matrix.org> But lots of people are away for FOSDEM right now
2026-01-28 16:07:06 <@jcapitao:matrix.org> thank you Timothée, the signing workflow is also blocking fedora-bootc to officially move to Konflux
2026-01-28 16:09:15 <@jcapitao:matrix.org> (oh that's what you put in the thread comment)
2026-01-28 16:09:47 <@siosm:matrix.org> OK let's move on. This is important but we can not solve that here
2026-01-28 16:09:55 <@siosm:matrix.org> (the signature issue)
2026-01-28 16:10:17 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic tracker: Fedora 44 changes considerations
2026-01-28 16:10:23 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2063
2026-01-28 16:10:48 <@siosm:matrix.org> marmijoanything specific to look at?
2026-01-28 16:12:08 <@marmijo:fedora.im> 121, 220, and 221 are new. I figured 220 wont affect FCOS.
2026-01-28 16:12:21 <@marmijo:fedora.im> 121.
2026-01-28 16:12:23 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Automatic_DTB_selection_for_aarch64_EFI_systems
2026-01-28 16:14:01 <@siosm:matrix.org> So if I understood this one correctly, this adds a new kernel package for aarch64 which is a "kind of an UKI" but with just a kernel and DTB files
2026-01-28 16:14:36 <@siosm:matrix.org> so this should not impact us, but we may want to switch to this kernel by default for our aarch64 streams to get support for more hardware out of the box
2026-01-28 16:15:21 <@siosm:matrix.org> This is mostly targeted at Windows on Arm (WoA) laptops right now and this is not really our primary target
2026-01-28 16:15:40 <@siosm:matrix.org> usually aarch64 server hardware do UEFI properly nowadays
2026-01-28 16:16:28 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Sounds good, I'll add a note to the tracker about it
2026-01-28 16:17:01 <@marmijo:fedora.im> 221.
2026-01-28 16:17:02 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Podman6
2026-01-28 16:17:22 <@siosm:matrix.org> So I guess we can create an issue to track this but I don't think it's needed immediately for F44 for FCOS
2026-01-28 16:17:54 <@siosm:matrix.org> (last line was for the previous topic)
2026-01-28 16:18:25 <@siosm:matrix.org> Podman 6 is a bigger one and there was a lot of discussion in the FESCo meeting as it's not yet fully sure that they will be able to land that in F44
2026-01-28 16:18:54 <@siosm:matrix.org> notably there is the migration code from boltdb to sqlite that has to land in 5.8 and then they have to make the 6.0 release
2026-01-28 16:19:42 <@siosm:matrix.org> we "kind of" already have a tracking issue for that: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2073
2026-01-28 16:21:18 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Okay, great. Seems like we're aware of it and it might not land in F44 anyway. I'll link this tracker issue to the change considerations issue and make a note in the change entry about this.
2026-01-28 16:21:57 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Those were the only new change considerations this week
2026-01-28 16:22:56 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Ah, one more small update: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Enforcing_signature_checking_by_default was deferred to F45
2026-01-28 16:23:36 <@marmijo:fedora.im> We were tracking that with https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2085
2026-01-28 16:23:46 <@marmijo:fedora.im> We were/are tracking that with https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2085
2026-01-28 16:24:16 <@siosm:matrix.org> we'll need to update this one. I can create the new labels
2026-01-28 16:24:41 <@siosm:matrix.org> OK, we are almost at time so let's move to open floor
2026-01-28 16:24:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Open Floor
2026-01-28 16:25:46 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Flock CFP is Feb 2nd I think 
2026-01-28 16:26:12 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I think our lab last year got rejected
2026-01-28 16:26:12 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> 
2026-01-28 16:26:12 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> any ideas on talks? Should we try to do a lab?
2026-01-28 16:27:54 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> We are planning a lab with Alice on running k3s on top of FCOS
2026-01-28 16:28:07 <@siosm:matrix.org> I'm (temporarily) removing myself from the meeting rotation: https://hackmd.io/OSVZR5vETkmKuA9A_KAzUg?view
2026-01-28 16:28:46 <@siosm:matrix.org> It would be good if some new faces could give it a try. Mayba Angel Cervera Roldan or Rolv Apneseth?
2026-01-28 16:29:07 <@siosm:matrix.org> It would be good if some new faces could give it a try. Maybe Angel Cervera Roldan or Rolv Apneseth?
2026-01-28 16:29:21 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I always think an intro to FCOS lab is useful. If they reject it there's nothing we can do, but we can still try
2026-01-28 16:30:00 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> Clément Verna: is also planning a general image mode BOF
2026-01-28 16:30:38 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I'm happy to help represent CoreOS there (If I end up being able to go) 
2026-01-28 16:33:49 <@siosm:matrix.org> Alright, thanks everyone, closing this one
2026-01-28 16:33:59 <@siosm:matrix.org> !endmeeting