#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:30:16

!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:30:17

Meeting started at 2026-03-18 15:30:16 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:30:17

The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:30:21

!topic roll call

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

15:30:49

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:30:51

Emeric Chassagne (nemric)

<@osama-albahrani:matrix.org>

15:30:59

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:31:01

Osama Albahrani (osalbahr)

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:31:11

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:31:12

Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his

<@spresti:fedora.im>

15:32:41

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:32:43

Steven Presti (spresti)

<@ydesouza:fedora.im>

15:32:52

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:32:53

Yasmin Valim de Souza (ydesouza)

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:34:43

!topic Action items from last meeting

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:36:31

1. Hristo Marinov will create fedora QA ticket and check if new tests are necessary to be written

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:36:31

3. @marmijo to investigate the current status of the open changes we're tracking to ensure we're ready to support them in F44.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:36:31

We have a few Action items:

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:36:31

2. Yasmin Valim de Souza and Hristo Marinov will be hosting FCOs 44 Test week. Everyone is welcome to help and participate. :)

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:37:02

I think 1 and 2 are done. an announcement just went out regarding the test week and I see the QA ticket is opened

<@ydesouza:fedora.im>

15:37:53

Yes, it's done! We already did an announcement and scheduled the sync meeting.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:38:12

Yasmin Valim de Souza: could you add the meeting details for the test week live session to the test week tracker https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2120?

<@ydesouza:fedora.im>

15:38:26

Sure!

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:39:15

dustymabe has already given cookies to ydesouza during the F43 timeframe

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:39:20

Thank you Yasmin Valim de Souza Hristo Marinov!

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:39:31

osalbahr has already given cookies to ydesouza during the F43 timeframe

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:39:40

marmijo has already given cookies to ydesouza during the F43 timeframe

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:39:43

I don't see any new platforms or major updates in the docs that may need new test cases. However I might miss something.

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:39:46

osalbahr has already given cookies to hricky during the F43 timeframe

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:40:37

I can try to improve the Fedora Discussion post with more details.

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

15:41:03

Perhaps adding a use case : live mode use of FcOS

<@ydesouza:fedora.im>

15:42:05

I also submitted a article to fedora magazine about our test week :)

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:42:14

Hristo Marinov: i'm sure there are some new platforms (maybe from previous cycles) that don't yet have docs. but maybe not!

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:43:28

I will double check again after the meeting.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:43:58

Thank you both!

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:43:59

As for my action, I did not have a chance to go through the list of changes and verify their status for F44. We don't have any meeting topics today, so let's discuss them here :)

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:44:05

too many irons in the fire...

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:44:48

!topic Review Fedora 44 Release Schedule

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:44:54

!link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-44/f-44-key-tasks.html

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:45:58

Not much to discuss at this point. We're in Beta freeze, final freeze is just under 2 weeks away.

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:46:36

yeah. it would be good if, while we are here and not in freeze, to get karma on the updates we have fast-tracked (so they stop being overrides)

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:47:11

Absolutely. I'll go through the list of packages we've fast-tracked and do that today

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:47:34

Maybe Hristo Marinov or Nemric could help with that? https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/blob/next-devel/manifest-lock.overrides.yaml

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:49:55

!info Calling all volunteers! Fedora CoreOS 44 Test week starts on Monday, 2026-03-23 with a live sync meeting on 2026-03-24 at 15:00 UTC in http://meet.google.com/ufp-bwsb-zwh. Details can be found in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2120. Hope to see you there!

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:50:07

I'll take a look at them.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:50:29

Thanks Hristo Marinov, reach out to me if you have any questions

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:51:18

Any other discussion about the F44 schedule?

<@aaradhak:matrix.org>

15:51:57

!hi aaradhak

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:51:59

Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak)

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

15:52:14

well, why not, but I'll need to be driven ^^

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:54:21

So far, every package we've fast-tracked to next-devel/next has passed our CI, so we can leave a comment on them with that information and add positive karma.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:55:26

We do not have any formal meeting topics today, so let's discuss the upcoming F44 changes if there isn't anything more pressing...

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:56:03

yeah. some of the packages are actually tested more than others, but yeah

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:57:49

I have a `next-devel` deployment in a VM, so I can at lest try them.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

15:59:05

dustymabe: are you saying that we shouldn't add positive karma to all of them because our CI might not be enough?

<@hricky:fedora.im>

15:59:07

I have a `next-devel` deployment in a VM, so I can at least try them.

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:59:30

ehh. marmijo it's debatable :(

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

15:59:55

basically something like NFS, I think we actually have a test for. Or things like SSH, clearly we test that

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:00:09

but thinkgs like libnetfilter_contrack?? I'm not sure

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:00:25

Fair enough, that makes sense

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:00:28

but honestly the "this is shipped already in F43" is a good enough reason probably

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:00:49

so maybe we should just karma them all and give that justification

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:01:24

Sounds good! I'll go through them today

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:02:35

!topic Fedora 44 changes considerations

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:02:41

!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2063

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:03:37

We're currently tracking 4 changes out of the list. There's a status update comment I made last week: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2063#issuecomment-4033770995

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:04:19

We briefly discussed 234 last week, and I'm unsure if we're continuing with it for F44

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:04:24

!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Build_FCOS_on_Fedora_Konflux

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:05:49

I'm ok to take care of the rawhide stream failure on Konflux side during the period where logs won't be available i.e: until we move to the new Konflux cluster"

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:05:49

"Let's defer the change on Fedora Meeting 1 chan - sorry I could not attend the meeting (was side tracked IRL), so the lastest update is the BZ tracker https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2439690. The new Konflux cluster is almost there, so let's switch on again the konflux building to not defer to F45.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:05:49

Joel Capitao: mentioned last week:

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:09:03

We're super close to final freeze at this point and we've only built rawhide with Konflux. I'm not sure if we're going to be moving all streams over to Konflux within the next 2-4 weeks?

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:09:48

Yeah. I think the new cluster is close but not quite ready yet.

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:10:12

As far as I'm concerned we'll switch to it when it's ready but we don't need to tie it to F44 for now.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:11:37

I'm out-of-the-loop on this one, will it be easy to transition all streams to Konflux, given that we've successfully set up rawhide?

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:13:49

ehh. I think it will be "easier" :) - but I still think there will be some adjustements to our workflow that will take some getting used to and we'll want to add helpers for

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:14:33

lol, I guess nothing's ever easy... :)

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:15:55

There are two/three other changes we're tracking. 113 is the next one, a GoLang version bump to 1.26

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:16:06

!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2084

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:16:56

I know spresti made some adjustments yesterday for Ignition: https://github.com/coreos/ignition/pull/2211

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:17:55

I'm not sure how much work we'll need to do with this change, but we should take a look at all the repos listed in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2084

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:18:28

Yeah, I updated repo-templates to use go 1.26/1.25 with the approprate lint support. there were some minor test script changes for ignition specifically but it went right into butane.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:19:07

nice! https://github.com/coreos/butane/pull/691

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:20:42

So from what I saw there were some minor changes we encountered on 1.26 around go tool and its commands.

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:20:42

All that to say I can take those :)

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:20:42

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:22:01

Thank you spresti! Let me know what I can do to help.

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:22:54

np!

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:23:02

Alright, the last change(s) we're tracking: 108/109

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:23:04

!link https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/5539

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:24:03

"Not completely sure if we need to do something for rpm-ostree as rpm-ostree builds its own copy of libdnf directly using the cmake crate: https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/blob/main/rust/libdnf-sys/build.rs"

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:24:03

The issue states:

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:25:30

Could someone take an action item to loop in jmarrero to see if he has any thoughts?

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:27:07

!action marmijo to involve jmarrero in https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/5539 to get an opinion on how to proceed

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:29:21

Done. I pinged him directly, I'll follow up with any conversations in the ticket.

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:29:34

!topic Open Floor

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

16:29:42

What about adding the live mode test case ?

<@hricky:fedora.im>

16:31:34

I think we don't have any time left. Let's discuss this in the FCOS room.

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:31:42

like above and beyond just doing an install from the LIve ISO?

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:32:40

Nemric: I'm not opposed to have a test case for the live environment (i.e. starting some containers and such)

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:32:52

maybe open floor momentarily

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

16:33:32

So, I can't test install/update stuff

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

16:33:32

I'm only use fcos in live mode with persistent storage pounted on /var

<@hricky:fedora.im>

16:33:45

Our test cases usually follow the Docs, so maybe add a Docs page and a Test Case?

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

16:34:00

I'm only use fcos in live mode with persistent storage mounted on /var

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

16:34:00

So, I can't test install/update stuff

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

16:34:55

So, I can't test install/update stuff

<@nemric:relativit.fr>

16:34:55

I'm only using fcos in live mode with persistent storage mounted on /var

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:35:12

Hristo Marinov: I think that's what https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-coreos/live-booting/ is

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:36:21

I'll go ahead and close the meeting. Thanks all for joining!

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:36:46

!endmeeting