2026-05-26 16:00:19 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !startmeeting ELN SIG 26 May '26
2026-05-26 16:00:20 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2026-05-26 16:00:19 UTC
2026-05-26 16:00:20 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'ELN SIG 26 May '26'
2026-05-26 16:00:26 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !meetingname eln
2026-05-26 16:00:27 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now eln
2026-05-26 16:00:33 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Init process
2026-05-26 16:00:36 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> !hi
2026-05-26 16:00:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Stephen Gallagher: Stephen Gallagher (sgallagh) - he / him / his
2026-05-26 16:01:01 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !hi
2026-05-26 16:01:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Troy Dawson: Troy Dawson (tdawson)
2026-05-26 16:02:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2026-05-26 16:02:44 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2026-05-26 16:02:47 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Conan Kudo 😌: Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2026-05-26 16:02:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca: Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2026-05-26 16:03:19 <@jligon:matrix.org> !hi
2026-05-26 16:03:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jligon: Jeff Ligon (jligon)
2026-05-26 16:04:30 <@jakubsencak:fedora.im> !hi
2026-05-26 16:04:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jsencak: Jakub Sencak (jakubsencak)
2026-05-26 16:05:09 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> welcome everyone, let's get started
2026-05-26 16:05:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic bootc
2026-05-26 16:05:23 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/214
2026-05-26 16:05:30 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> jligon ?
2026-05-26 16:08:15 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> any updates?
2026-05-26 16:08:20 <@jligon:matrix.org> great question
2026-05-26 16:08:38 <@jligon:matrix.org> i think we were looking for volunteers to be co-maintainers from last week
2026-05-26 16:09:00 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Stephen Gallagher iirc you were interested?
2026-05-26 16:09:29 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Yes, I need to find some time for a data dump
2026-05-26 16:09:30 <@jligon:matrix.org> and I'm still getting bootc help for the compose images MR, but it is moving along
2026-05-26 16:10:05 <@jligon:matrix.org> the last MR is still in progress, joel was busy last week, but it will move along today
2026-05-26 16:12:34 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> sounds good
2026-05-26 16:12:50 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> please shout if there's anything you end up needing help with
2026-05-26 16:13:33 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic image builder
2026-05-26 16:13:41 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2026-05-26 16:13:43 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind ☘ UTC+1 📛: Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2026-05-26 16:13:51 <@salimma:fedora.im> sorry, running between meetings as usual
2026-05-26 16:14:12 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/502
2026-05-26 16:14:22 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Simon de Vlieger any updates on this?
2026-05-26 16:16:54 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> guess not
2026-05-26 16:17:50 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic s390x baseline
2026-05-26 16:17:53 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/520
2026-05-26 16:18:14 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> working now on bumping s390x to z15/z16 for ELN in preparation for RHEL 11
2026-05-26 16:18:38 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> it turns out this was *supposed* to happen for f44 as well, but looks like it didn't
2026-05-26 16:18:45 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> The patches submitted all look fine to me. I think we are just waiting on a merge?
2026-05-26 16:18:52 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> so working that out with the tools team
2026-05-26 16:19:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> q: if something fails in ELN that passes in Fedora because of the lower baseline... we have instances where we can test with mock with ELN right?
2026-05-26 16:19:45 <@salimma:fedora.im> /etc/mock/fedora-eln-s390x.cfg exists at last
2026-05-26 16:19:45 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Kevin announced some available instances recently. 
2026-05-26 16:19:53 <@salimma:fedora.im> /etc/mock/fedora-eln-s390x.cfg exists at least
2026-05-26 16:20:07 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Stephen Gallagher yes except that the missed f44 baseline bump means that we might want to fix that too for f45 while we're at it
2026-05-26 16:20:46 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Ah, I see. 
2026-05-26 16:22:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh so rawhide / eln11 uses the same baseline? that will keep things simpler
2026-05-26 16:22:24 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> well, they were *supposed* to, but looks like that got missed for f44
2026-05-26 16:23:01 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> all fedora (and downstream) infra is compatible with at least z15, which is why we're proceeding with that now
2026-05-26 16:27:15 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> moving along
2026-05-26 16:27:46 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic libappstream-glib
2026-05-26 16:27:49 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/486
2026-05-26 16:28:35 <@salimma:fedora.im> seems like this needs to be brought up with FPC and/or submitted as a system wide change
2026-05-26 16:28:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we can't yet
2026-05-26 16:28:41 <@salimma:fedora.im> I'd happily vote for it
2026-05-26 16:28:49 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> fedora is still using the deprecated libappstream-glib for verifying and compiling appstream data, but the consumers (e.g. discover and gnome software) are all using the new appstream library
2026-05-26 16:28:50 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> still have to work out the details of getting asgen to replace asbuilder
2026-05-26 16:28:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh... is there any reason we can't validate with the new tooling?
2026-05-26 16:29:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the result would be invalid for composing repodata
2026-05-26 16:29:19 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> everything has to match for us to swap the validator
2026-05-26 16:29:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's on my todo to work with the asgen developer on finalizing how to do the switch
2026-05-26 16:29:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> want to put this in writing in the issue?
2026-05-26 16:29:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> sure
2026-05-26 16:30:01 <@salimma:fedora.im> I just assume anything mentioned in a meeting is lost
2026-05-26 16:30:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> blech I have to fix the FTBFS for asgen too
2026-05-26 16:33:54 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> obviously I would really like to see this happen this year, so if there is anything I can do to help, please let me know
2026-05-26 16:35:34 <@supakeen:fedora.im> At the gym, I’ll update when I get home in the main channel. Apologies.
2026-05-26 16:35:40 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> np
2026-05-26 16:35:50 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic kernel gating
2026-05-26 16:35:57 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/503
2026-05-26 16:36:17 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> adamw jforbes any update on kernel gating?
2026-05-26 16:36:31 <@adamwill:fedora.im> waiting on anyone to review those PRs I sent, I guess
2026-05-26 16:36:46 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> the bodhi PR?
2026-05-26 16:36:56 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the ARK ones I assume
2026-05-26 16:37:37 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/pull/6110
2026-05-26 16:37:47 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/ansible/pulls/3340
2026-05-26 16:38:00 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> adamw who needs to review the bodhi pr?
2026-05-26 16:38:19 <@adamwill:fedora.im> mattia verga is the maintainer atm
2026-05-26 16:39:44 <@jforbes:fedora.im> ark one was merged, but I suppose needs to be changed once the bodhi one is done
2026-05-26 16:40:10 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> pinged mattia on the PR
2026-05-26 16:40:43 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> not having any sort of gating for kernel updates is making me nervous, so really hope we can move this forward
2026-05-26 16:41:00 <@jforbes:fedora.im> I mean for years we didn't
2026-05-26 16:41:20 <@jforbes:fedora.im> We had 1 series of events in years
2026-05-26 16:41:58 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> a lot more projects are relying on eln than back then
2026-05-26 16:42:42 <@jforbes:fedora.im> Sure, but even the whole time you were relying on rawhide gating, that had little relevance on the ELN kernel which is a completely different config
2026-05-26 16:43:17 <@jforbes:fedora.im> I am not saying that we don't want gating, I definitely do... Just saying your current level of risk is not really increased
2026-05-26 16:44:47 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Next meeting
2026-05-26 16:44:56 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> any conflicts next week?
2026-05-26 16:46:55 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I might have a personal conflict next week, but I don't have a work releted conflict.
2026-05-26 16:47:19 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> I should be around.
2026-05-26 16:49:23 <@jakubsencak:fedora.im> I should be around 
2026-05-26 16:49:51 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info Next meeting is next Tuesday 02 June 12:00 EDT
2026-05-26 16:49:56 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2026-05-26 16:54:23 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok we'll close it out then, give everyone a few minutes before fesco
2026-05-26 16:54:34 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> thanks everyone!
2026-05-26 16:54:36 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !endmeeting