2026-06-03 15:30:37 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting

2026-06-03 15:30:37 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2026-06-03 15:30:37 UTC
2026-06-03 15:30:37 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
2026-06-03 15:30:44 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !topic roll call
2026-06-03 15:30:56 <@hricky:fedora.im> !hi
2026-06-03 15:31:03 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Hristo Marinov: Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
2026-06-03 15:31:06 <@cadejacobson:matrix.org> !hi
2026-06-03 15:31:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Cade: Cade Jacobson (cadejacobson)
2026-06-03 15:31:23 <@thilofm:matrix.org> !hi
2026-06-03 15:31:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> thilofm: Thilo Fromm (tfm)
2026-06-03 15:31:48 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !hi
2026-06-03 15:31:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> marmijo: Michael Armijo (marmijo)
2026-06-03 15:31:50 <@angelcr:matrix.org> !hi
2026-06-03 15:31:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Angel Cervera Roldan: Angel Cervera Roldan (acervera)
2026-06-03 15:32:40 <@siosm:fedora.im> !hi
2026-06-03 15:32:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Timothée Ravier: Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
2026-06-03 15:33:57 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> !hi
2026-06-03 15:33:58 <@rapneset:matrix.org> !hi
2026-06-03 15:34:03 <@zodbot:fedora.im> dustymabe: Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
2026-06-03 15:34:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> rapneset: Rolv Apneseth (rapneset)
2026-06-03 15:34:06 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !topic Action items from last meeting
2026-06-03 15:34:30 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !info there are no action items from the last meeting.
2026-06-03 15:35:18 <@jcapitao:matrix.org> !hi
2026-06-03 15:35:23 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jcapitao: Joel Capitao (jcapitao) - he / him / his
2026-06-03 15:35:39 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !topic Review Fedora 45 Release Schedule
2026-06-03 15:36:18 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-45/f-45-key-tasks.html
2026-06-03 15:38:46 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Following the schedule the next important date is 2026-06-24. We have a checkpoint for changes requiring infrasctructere changes..
2026-06-03 15:39:01 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !hi
2026-06-03 15:39:03 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jbtrystram: Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
2026-06-03 15:39:25 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Not much to discuss here at the moment. We are fresh off the F44 release. The change checkpoints are coming up, so if anyone has any changes in the works, please note the deadlines!
2026-06-03 15:39:41 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> how are we doing on swittching COSA to f44?
2026-06-03 15:40:38 <@marmijo:fedora.im> It doesn't look like there's any updates to https://github.com/coreos/coreos-assembler/pull/4541
2026-06-03 15:40:59 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> apiaseck: was looking into this I think
2026-06-03 15:42:08 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> FWIW in my dev environnement I switched to F44 and just removed the few deps from `deps.txt`, haven't run into issues so far. I don't use the COSA container
2026-06-03 15:43:21 <@siosm:fedora.im> we should probably do the vendoring option to get us unstuck and let Adam look at the packaging without a time pressure
2026-06-03 15:44:01 <@siosm:fedora.im> `python-pyrsistent` any idea why this one has been dropped if it is apparently neede by osbuild? That seems weird
2026-06-03 15:44:34 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> I asked the osbuild dev and they say it's no longer required
2026-06-03 15:44:48 <@siosm:fedora.im> https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aosbuild%2Fosbuild%20pyrsistent&type=code
2026-06-03 15:44:53 <@siosm:fedora.im> almost no hits
2026-06-03 15:46:02 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Timothée Ravier: i'm not sure. looking at the commit history it came in with the initial osbuild work. 
2026-06-03 15:46:08 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Timothée Ravier: i'm not sure. looking at the commit history it came in with the initial osbuild work (which was done by me) 
2026-06-03 15:47:20 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I can try to look into why it was needed
2026-06-03 15:48:44 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Thank you, dustymabe for looking at it.
2026-06-03 15:49:16 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> dustymabe: lets just start a pipeline build on the devel pipeline with a cosa image without the dep and see if that hit anything
2026-06-03 15:49:37 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> that's pretty easy to do
2026-06-03 15:50:41 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Thanks jbtrystram 
2026-06-03 15:51:06 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Can we go ahead and cover the topics from the tracker repository or there is any other discussion related to this subject?
2026-06-03 15:51:21 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> konflux is building cosa images on all arch for every PR already
2026-06-03 15:51:40 <@siosm:fedora.im> ok to move on
2026-06-03 15:51:43 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> so it's a really quick test, i'll do it later today ;)
2026-06-03 15:52:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> siosm gave a cookie to jbtrystram. They now have 5 cookies, 2 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
2026-06-03 15:52:10 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> jbtrystram: but does it do image builds on all arches? 
2026-06-03 15:52:34 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> yes
2026-06-03 15:52:55 <@jcapitao:matrix.org> c.f https://github.com/coreos/coreos-assembler/blob/5a7f9cb5f5f13b34f7ed1277f55632b2286f2318/.tekton/coreos-assembler-pull-request.yaml#L30-L35
2026-06-03 15:53:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ydesouza gave a cookie to jbtrystram. They now have 6 cookies, 3 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
2026-06-03 15:54:29 <@zodbot:fedora.im> acervera gave a cookie to jbtrystram. They now have 7 cookies, 4 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
2026-06-03 15:54:45 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> It's possible it was never needed and was a copy/paste error from my initial experimentation
2026-06-03 15:56:42 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> So let's go ahead, we have a few topics to discuss today. 
2026-06-03 15:56:52 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !topic Temporary stop building Rawhide stream with Konflux
2026-06-03 15:57:07 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2105
2026-06-03 15:57:34 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> I added this one
2026-06-03 15:58:33 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> So we initially revereted back to jenkins when the bootc pipeline was broken earlier this year. Since then jcapitao worked hard to move everything over to the new fedora cluster, which is now up to date and properly supported, and the bootc pipeline now works again
2026-06-03 15:59:03 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> so we want to un-revert this to go back to Konflux produces OCI then jenkins picks it up and continue
2026-06-03 15:59:43 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> 👏
2026-06-03 15:59:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> dustymabe has already given cookies to jbtrystram during the F44 timeframe
2026-06-03 15:59:56 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> jcapitao++ 
2026-06-03 16:00:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> dustymabe has already given cookies to jcapitao during the F44 timeframe
2026-06-03 16:00:04 <@zodbot:fedora.im> siosm gave a cookie to jcapitao. They now have 10 cookies, 3 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
2026-06-03 16:00:17 <@siosm:fedora.im> great! let's do it :)
2026-06-03 16:00:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> marmijo gave a cookie to jbtrystram. They now have 8 cookies, 5 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
2026-06-03 16:01:04 <@marmijo:fedora.im> jcapitao++
2026-06-03 16:01:05 <@jcapitao:matrix.org> that was a good team work effort with Konflux folks !
2026-06-03 16:01:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> marmijo gave a cookie to jcapitao. They now have 11 cookies, 4 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
2026-06-03 16:01:33 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Can we create a action item for this?
2026-06-03 16:02:11 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> not needed, all the PRs are ready
2026-06-03 16:02:33 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> we are just waiting for a vote to click merge
2026-06-03 16:02:51 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Nice, thank you for working on this! 
2026-06-03 16:03:45 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Let's move on to the next subject then 
2026-06-03 16:03:50 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !topic Build disk images using bootc-image-builder
2026-06-03 16:04:08 <@siosm:fedora.im> we still need to vote :)
2026-06-03 16:04:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> rapneset gave a cookie to jcapitao. They now have 12 cookies, 5 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
2026-06-03 16:04:57 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Ah, right. Sorry! Let's vote. I was thinking we already had an agreement. 
2026-06-03 16:05:32 <@siosm:fedora.im> !topic Re-enable building Rawhide stream with Konflux
2026-06-03 16:05:53 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> ++
2026-06-03 16:06:03 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> +1
2026-06-03 16:06:23 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> +1 
2026-06-03 16:06:23 <@siosm:fedora.im> !proposed We will re-enable building Rawhide with Konflux
2026-06-03 16:06:33 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> +1
2026-06-03 16:06:36 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> +1
2026-06-03 16:06:37 <@siosm:fedora.im> +1
2026-06-03 16:06:38 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> +1
2026-06-03 16:06:49 <@angelcr:matrix.org> +1
2026-06-03 16:07:28 <@jcapitao:matrix.org> +1
2026-06-03 16:07:32 <@hricky:fedora.im> +1
2026-06-03 16:08:14 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> I think we have a agreement now :) 
2026-06-03 16:08:45 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !agreed We will re-enable building Rawhide with Konflux
2026-06-03 16:10:33 <@siosm:fedora.im> I think we can go to the next topic?
2026-06-03 16:10:39 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Sure!
2026-06-03 16:10:44 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !topic Build disk images using bootc-image-builder
2026-06-03 16:10:53 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1906
2026-06-03 16:11:46 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> I added this as well :) 
2026-06-03 16:12:38 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> As we are making progress toward build our disk images using image-builder, I'd like to move more things to the OCI container for it to be the source of as much info as possible.
2026-06-03 16:13:19 <@siosm:fedora.im> Do we have https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1827 (install to-filesystem) ready?
2026-06-03 16:13:41 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> Yes we have this enabled in rawhide for a while now
2026-06-03 16:13:59 <@siosm:fedora.im> ah, we should update the issue then :)
2026-06-03 16:14:06 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> I kept the issue open because it's not yet on all streams
2026-06-03 16:14:57 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> image-builder is able to get the partition layout from the container, if the correct file exist in it. So I would like to effectively move the partition layout description from COSA to fedora-coreos-config and bake this file into the container
2026-06-03 16:17:14 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> I created a draft PR to show what it could look like : https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/4195
2026-06-03 16:17:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> 
2026-06-03 16:17:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Questions:
2026-06-03 16:17:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> is it easy to define different partition layouts for different architectures without having to conditionalize it?
2026-06-03 16:17:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> how advanced of partitioning can it handle, i.e. the downstream qemu-secex stuff for s390x is quite complicated and we should at least have some sort of plan for that
2026-06-03 16:18:25 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> ok nice.. the PR answers some questions
2026-06-03 16:19:15 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> We would have to ship the correct layout in the correct image. I don't know any other way around that for now. but we could ship everything and write a generic symlink : `disk.yaml -> $arch.yaml` I guess
2026-06-03 16:20:40 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> One good thing here is that this is a very undocumented API yet so we can still make changes :) 
2026-06-03 16:20:40 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> About the qemu-secex I don't know, but i'll make sure to follow-up with the osbuilder guys :) 
2026-06-03 16:21:07 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> and the image-builder team have been very keen to adjust to our requirements so far
2026-06-03 16:21:32 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> consult Nikita on the s390x secex stuff. he'd probably know more than the OSBuild team
2026-06-03 16:21:47 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> zooming out a bit..
2026-06-03 16:21:47 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> 
2026-06-03 16:21:53 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> we've got a pipeline of changes.
2026-06-03 16:23:03 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> let's plan to turn on `install to-filesystem` in `next-devel`/`next` (we've discussed doing this for other changes recently too) and when the `image-builder-cli` stuff (the next item in the pipeline) is ready we can switch it on in rawhide
2026-06-03 16:23:55 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> hmm 
2026-06-03 16:24:57 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> yeah. I want to note that we have been working with the goal that Konflux would do the image-builder task
2026-06-03 16:25:59 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> how does that impact the rollout plan? 
2026-06-03 16:26:13 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> It does not ! I just wanted to point it out
2026-06-03 16:26:35 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> yeah. looks like we already want konflux for rawhide, so hopefully konflux won't block anything 
2026-06-03 16:26:59 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> yeah. looks like we already have konflux for rawhide, so hopefully konflux won't block anything 
2026-06-03 16:27:17 <@siosm:fedora.im> I think what Dusty means is that we should start rolling out the to-filesystem change to our other streams and then we can enable image-builder for rawhide
2026-06-03 16:27:35 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> correct 
2026-06-03 16:28:17 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I do have followup questions about konflux+image-builder-cli - but maybe we can discuss those in the coreos channel after the meeting 
2026-06-03 16:28:54 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> We don't have time for a long open floor today, but feel free to bring up any quick final thoughts. You can also open a thread in the FCOS room and we can keep the conversation going there.
2026-06-03 16:30:44 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> If there is no topic for a quick open floor I think we can go ahead and finish this meeting :)
2026-06-03 16:31:01 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> Thank you all for participating today!
2026-06-03 16:31:11 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Thanks Yasmin Valim de Souza 
2026-06-03 16:31:23 <@zodbot:fedora.im> siosm gave a cookie to ydesouza. They now have 13 cookies, 5 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
2026-06-03 16:31:45 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> Thanks !
2026-06-03 16:32:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jcapitao gave a cookie to ydesouza. They now have 14 cookies, 6 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
2026-06-03 16:32:11 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !endmeeting