2025-05-08 16:30:15 <@tflink:fedora.im> !startmeeting ai-ml-sig
2025-05-08 16:30:16 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-05-08 16:30:15 UTC
2025-05-08 16:30:16 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'ai-ml-sig'
2025-05-08 16:30:32 <@tflink:fedora.im> who all is here for the ai-ml-sig meeting?
2025-05-08 16:30:34 <@tflink:fedora.im> !hello
2025-05-08 16:30:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Tim Flink (tflink)
2025-05-08 16:32:34 <@mystro256:fedora.im> !hello
2025-05-08 16:32:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (mystro256)
2025-05-08 16:34:34 <@trix:fedora.im> !hello
2025-05-08 16:34:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Tom Rix (trix)
2025-05-08 16:34:50 <@trix:fedora.im> sorry for being late, give me all the action items
2025-05-08 16:35:33 <@tflink:fedora.im> not going to argue about that one :)
2025-05-08 16:35:45 <@tflink:fedora.im> anyhow, lets get this party started
2025-05-08 16:35:54 <@tflink:fedora.im> !topic ROCm 6.4 update
2025-05-08 16:36:45 <@trix:fedora.im> Thanks Jeremy Newton for getting the update out, i _think_ we are in pretty good shape.
2025-05-08 16:37:25 <@tflink:fedora.im> yeah, things seem to be working from the bits of testing I've done
2025-05-08 16:37:26 <@trix:fedora.im> its all built, i am taking care of rebuilding and testing pytorch bits now
2025-05-08 16:38:21 <@tflink:fedora.im> which also seem to be working for at least 2 of the 3 ISAs that it's built for
2025-05-08 16:38:59 <@mystro256:fedora.im> Team effort, no worries
2025-05-08 16:39:06 <@trix:fedora.im> get more folks to tests their boards would be helpful, we added a lot of isa's and i just have a couple of them.
2025-05-08 16:39:43 <@trix:fedora.im> the ones i have a gfx1100, gfx1201 and gfx1151
2025-05-08 16:40:00 <@tflink:fedora.im> note that pytorch 2.7 in rawhide is only going to work with gfx1100, gfx1101 and gfx90a at the moment
2025-05-08 16:40:21 <@trix:fedora.im> oh sorry, i don't have gfx1100 anymore.. or its on the shelf, 
2025-05-08 16:40:48 <@trix:fedora.im> is that a hipblaslt issue ?
2025-05-08 16:40:52 <@tflink:fedora.im> yeah
2025-05-08 16:41:12 <@trix:fedora.im> there should be a runtime check, that disable hipblaslt 
2025-05-08 16:41:31 <@tflink:fedora.im> I assume that it won't work for other ISAs. pytorch was blowing up on gfx1100 until I rebuilt it with gfx1100;gfx1101 support
2025-05-08 16:41:49 <@trix:fedora.im> sorry, been busy.. it seems to work on the 1201 and 1151, but maybe not ?
2025-05-08 16:42:24 <@tflink:fedora.im> I only have 1100 and 1101, can't speak to the others :)
2025-05-08 16:42:53 <@trix:fedora.im> it would be helpful if fedora had some qa :(...
2025-05-08 16:43:04 <@trix:fedora.im> i am still just manually doing things.
2025-05-08 16:43:32 <@tflink:fedora.im> on that note, I have a few more of the test subpackages working
2025-05-08 16:43:41 <@trix:fedora.im> sweeeeet!
2025-05-08 16:43:47 <@tflink:fedora.im> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/tflink/rocm-next-test/packages/
2025-05-08 16:43:55 <@tflink:fedora.im> it's not much yet but I'm working on them as I have time
2025-05-08 16:44:24 <@trix:fedora.im> good enough that maybe we turn them on in the default build ?
2025-05-08 16:44:39 <@tflink:fedora.im> no, they can't build in koji - several of them require network
2025-05-08 16:45:12 <@trix:fedora.im> booo.. ok i know rocsparse is a dog about downloading a lot of stuff.
2025-05-08 16:45:44 <@trix:fedora.im> turn them on in the default copr ?  RH ?
2025-05-08 16:45:48 <@tflink:fedora.im> yeah, that downloads a ton of test files but I don't think it's the only one
2025-05-08 16:46:21 <@tflink:fedora.im> at some point, maybe. until they're more done, I figure it makes sense just to keep them in the copr I've been working on
2025-05-08 16:46:34 <@tflink:fedora.im>  until more of them are done, anyways
2025-05-08 16:46:43 <@trix:fedora.im> cool. maybe we point folks at it somewhere ?
2025-05-08 16:47:13 <@tflink:fedora.im> as in writing docs?
2025-05-08 16:48:00 <@trix:fedora.im> oh jeeze not that!! maybe just a cross link of the copr's we have, 'look here ... ' for the test copr 
2025-05-08 16:48:38 <@trix:fedora.im> just a thought, its more important imo to have the tests than document the tests.
2025-05-08 16:49:33 <@tflink:fedora.im> either way is fine with me. I'm not terribly optimistic that many folks will run the tests, especially before I get the running/setup scripts done
2025-05-08 16:50:59 <@tflink:fedora.im> !info ROCm 6.4 is in rawhide
2025-05-08 16:51:08 <@tflink:fedora.im> !info pytorch 2.7 is in rawhide
2025-05-08 16:51:43 <@trix:fedora.im> 2.7 is there, and i am refreshing all of the other torch* packages atm, currently fighting with triton.
2025-05-08 16:52:38 <@trix:fedora.im> these should get enough attention next week to have them in good shape, if there are no big issues.
2025-05-08 16:53:22 <@trix:fedora.im> i still have no way to test aarch64. so that i won't be testing.
2025-05-08 16:53:23 <@tflink:fedora.im> !info other torch packages (triton et. al) are still in progress, should be finished soon
2025-05-08 16:54:53 <@trix:fedora.im> open floor ?
2025-05-08 16:55:11 <@tflink:fedora.im> is there anything else on the updates?
2025-05-08 16:55:46 <@trix:fedora.im> just i will be away end of may. so i am hustling to get these in good shape.
2025-05-08 16:56:30 <@tflink:fedora.im> did we ever set up the rocm packages to have the rocm-packagers-sig as the default asignee instead of just the owner of each package?
2025-05-08 16:56:36 <@tflink:fedora.im> for bugzilla
2025-05-08 16:57:16 <@trix:fedora.im> that would be good, as i don't want things orphaned because i took a vacation.
2025-05-08 16:57:25 <@tflink:fedora.im> yeah, that's what brought it to mind
2025-05-08 16:57:48 <@tflink:fedora.im> we can sync up on that after the meeting since in practice, you'll have to do most of that work
2025-05-08 16:58:04 <@trix:fedora.im> all the actions are mine weeeeee
2025-05-08 16:58:16 <@trix:fedora.im> yes, sounds good.
2025-05-08 16:58:19 <@man2dev:fedora.im> 😂😂
2025-05-08 16:58:31 <@tflink:fedora.im> on the bright side, it should be pretty simple - just a mind numbing process of clicking the same thing on a bunch of different pages
2025-05-08 16:58:37 <@tflink:fedora.im> anyhow, we can move on to
2025-05-08 16:58:42 <@tflink:fedora.im> !topic open floor
2025-05-08 16:58:59 <@tflink:fedora.im> are there any other topics that folks want to bring up?
2025-05-08 17:05:14 <@tflink:fedora.im> ok. thanks for coming, everyone
2025-05-08 17:05:23 <@trix:fedora.im> o///
2025-05-08 17:05:26 <@tflink:fedora.im> !endmeeting