<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:03:43
!startmeeting RELENG (2024-04-23)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:03:45
Meeting started at 2024-04-23 16:03:43 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:03:45
The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-04-23)'
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:03:48
!meetingname releng
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:03:54
!chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:03:59
!info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stop
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:04:04
morning.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:04:07
!info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:04:12
Hope this is the right time now. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:04:13
!topic init process
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:04:21
Helllo happy release day folks!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:04:27
Andddd drumrollll
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:04:31
Good evening. 👋
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:04:35
!info F40 is OUT!!!
<@leo:fedora.im>
16:04:37
happy release day!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:04:47
How is everyone doing today?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:08
Thanks to a lot of hard work by a lot of folks! Kudos to everyone...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:10
patrikp: Hiya!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:24
leo: Hello, and yayy!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:38
jnsamyak: wanted to propose a new meeting topic/section moving forward if you are interested...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:51
Exactly, perfect community effort 🩵
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:06:23
yes pleaseee
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:06:30
always up for feedback to do better
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:06:32
A new section for 'scheduled actions coming up in the next week'. ie, look at schedule and list/discuss anything about items that are going to be due to be done in the next week.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:06:37
I can restructure accordingly
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:07:04
that way we know things are going to be coming up, we can discuss any that need more thought, etc.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:07:29
nirik: I like the idea, and this need not be release process specific inho
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:07:47
or do you want to be just around it? Making it generic sounds like a good idea to me
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:08:48
yeah... I just got to thinking sometimes we forget release cycle things or need to decide who is doing them or need to adjust them
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:09:06
being more practive and looking ahead a week would be good and this meeting would be a good time to do it.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:09:29
sometimes of course there may not be anything.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:09:42
absolutely +1 to this idea
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:10:06
I'll start inculcating it from next meeting onwards
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:10:53
cool. ;) if it doesn't work out we can change, just a thought to try
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:11:35
sure thing thanks for bringing this up!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:12:04
Should we jump on the tickets, or do we have something else for the init process? I have one for the process but that's also a ticket so i'll take that up there
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:12:21
move on...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:13:22
!topic Tickets needing attention
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:13:28
!info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:04
!releng 12075
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:14:05
**releng #12075** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12075):**Cleanup post F40 Release**
● **Opened:** 9 hours ago by jnsamyak
● **Last Updated:** 9 hours ago
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:35
This was the ticket, i was talkign about, this I opened to clear our the unwanted or do cleanups post f40 release
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:51
and to keep track so we can make it reference in one of the sops
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:15:10
and not forget until someone comes up with the request!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:15:21
I have a list of things to add to it / make sure are on it. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:15:46
also we should ask this be added to the schedule, or the things on it each or something... so it's tracked on the schedule.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:15:46
awesome as always
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:16:45
+1, will bring this up to aoife, what do you say should be timeline for this?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:27
I think a week after for most of it... but... I guess it could be sooner or later.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:39
I might want to do some of it sooner to free up disk space
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:19:03
I guess a week later next tuesday everything should be cleaned up as well
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:19:25
but we can always start the cleanup process as soon as we release
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:20:11
there's a few things that should be at least a week later.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:20:27
like moving mirrormanager from handing out development/40 to releases/40
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:21:09
makes sense;
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:21:30
I'll add a note about it, and will be looking for the list that you already have!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:21:56
okay moving on to the next one!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:22:02
!releng 12070
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:22:07
**releng #12070** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12070):**fedora-scm-requests should allow branch creation for proven packers**
● **Opened:** 4 days ago by zbyszek
● **Last Updated:** a day ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:22:10
I think we should close this one as invalid, or do we want to talk more about this?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:23:07
I agree, but they haven't had a chance to reply back on it... so we could keep it open a bit more?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:23:14
either way is fine with me
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:24:08
okay I can ping them once, and will take action post the reply
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:24:37
For the retirement packages that were not retired properly i have foxed the script and made it run
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:24:54
but I just have to run the last method which takes like 3-4 hours
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:25:28
and i didnt get time during the release week, so once that done we will have the data ready for it, plus i'll open a pr against the updated script
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:25:29
ugh, thats a while...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:25:54
yeah
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:26:02
!releng 12050
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:26:04
**releng #12050** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12050):**Modify tag2distrepo for f40-flatpak tags?**
● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by yselkowitz
● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:26:15
I think we can close this one?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:26:51
yep. close +1
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:27:56
done
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:28:05
okay
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:28:14
i need some quick updates as well from folks
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:28:26
!releng 11673
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:28:32
**releng #11673** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11673):**Fixes for release-candidate.sh in pungi-fedora**
● **Opened:** 7 months ago by kevin
● **Last Updated:** 6 months ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:28:55
patrikp: what's the status to it, we weren't able to use this in this release cycle :( I was hoping if we could test it out
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:29:43
yeah, I think it should be ready? but we will need to wait for f41 beta to test it.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:30:00
:)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:30:39
i reviewed it today and i think still there are some dry mode on so asking patrikp what's up wiith that, is that intentional?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:31:01
I'm not sure what you mean.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:31:14
By "there are some dry mode on".
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:31:36
I incorporated the feedback I got from Kevin and I think it should be ready to go...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:32:16
oh i saw `-d` being used
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:32:20
Dry mode is intentional, we don't want to remove that if that's what you mean.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:33:47
I.e. you can use `-d` to see what it would run but you can also run it without it to actually produce a RC.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:33:49
okay then we can do the final review now right, did you try running the dry run once? I haven't i still need to test that out
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:34:41
I did, to me it looks like it does what it's supposed to, I'd appreciate a review. 🙏
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:34:44
I did when I was looking at it I think... I can look again if needed?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:35:13
yeah okay the action is to do a review now
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:35:21
moving on
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:35:44
I had to quickly run out again in next 10 mins so doing it quickly
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:36:33
!releng 11914
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:36:35
**releng #11914** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11914):**Unretire rpms/uniol-fonts**
● **Opened:** 3 months ago by mitradranirban
● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:36:48
Any blockers on this?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:37:39
No blockers. There is this one and one more retirement. I'll do them.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:38:24
yeah another one, I saw them they are over for more than 2-3 weeks was wandering if there was something wrong
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:38:29
awesome than
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:39:02
!releng 11358
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:39:07
**releng #11358** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11358):**Sync RCs to alt/stg dl.fp.o**
● **Opened:** a year ago by sumantrom
● **Last Updated:** a year ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:39:09
patrikp: i think we can close this?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:39:20
I saw there was a pr from you that got merged^
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:49
well, this will be fixed by that previosu thing we just talked about right?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:40:09
This is part of the release-candidate.sh script I believe, so it should get closed once the script gets merged and confirmed working.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:40:34
yeah
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:41:44
I mean, we could close it now and say it will be addressed by that pr...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:02
or keep it until we use it at f41-beta (but we might forget to close it)
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:42:23
There is also one old issue about sending fedmsg that's also tied to the script.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:42:31
!releng 7337
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:42:33
**releng #7337** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7337):**Emit fedmsg when candidate composes are synced to stage**
● **Opened:** 6 years ago by adamwill
● **Last Updated:** 11 months ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:43:28
yeah, same thing. close now or close later. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:43:36
we should keep one issue open atleast to track stuff out
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:43:47
as there is saying if there is no issue, the work never happened@
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:43:54
:D
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:43:58
I would rather close it once the script is confirmed working and leave it open until then...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:44:07
and link all other issues there
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:44:21
+1 to what patrikp said
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:44:28
tht would make more sense
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:44:44
sure, as long as we remember to do that in a few months...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:47:06
okay that's mostly issues i have to bring up
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:47:37
Folks if you have any issues that you would like to bring up?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:47:53
This is your time, or we can go to open floor!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:48:38
I don't have anything specific right now...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:50:11
!topic Discussion / All other Business / Blockers
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:50:55
GNOME 46 seems nice...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:51:31
Oh yesss
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:51:31
yeah, as is kde6 too. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:52:34
Btw I had one more quick item that I brought on slack as well mostly for Anton Medvedev and patrikp do you folks want to chair this meeting once an awhile?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:52:45
I use Debian on my personal desktop (don't tell on me) so I will have to wait for a while to get it there. :D
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:53:04
nothing at all wrong with that. ;)
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:53:09
Yeah, I have already chaired it in the past, don't mind it.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:53:19
+1
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:53:51
Okay my only intention is to see if I could bring more releng participation somehow 👍
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:54:06
Awesome next meeting on you? It do you wanna do later?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:54:13
From my experience many, many people eventually end up on Debian stable... It's like a safe harbor in a storm.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:55:00
I should be here next week, I can chair it. 👍️
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:55:00
sure, lots of folks end up with rhel too. :) but anyhow, use what you like / fits your case.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:56:05
I did actually try daily driving RHEL on the desktop before.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:56:47
I had stability issues which I falsely blamed on RHEL but it turned out to be a faulty motherboard. The software is even more ancient than Debian though.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:56:53
too boring for me, give me rawhide anytime. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:00:09
Awesome patrikp and time check folks!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:00:26
!info Thank you all for coming.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:00:38
!endmeeting