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2024-06-18 16:07:42 <@humaton:fedora.im> !startmeeting RELENG (2024-05-18)

2024-06-18 16:07:43 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-06-18 16:07:42 UTC
2024-06-18 16:07:43 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-05-18)'
2024-06-18 16:07:50 <@humaton:fedora.im> !meetingname releng
2024-06-18 16:07:51 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now releng
2024-06-18 16:08:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2024-06-18 16:08:04 <@humaton:fedora.im> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stop
2024-06-18 16:08:04 <@humaton:fedora.im> !info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw
2024-06-18 16:08:04 <@humaton:fedora.im> !chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp
2024-06-18 16:08:12 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic init process
2024-06-18 16:08:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yikes, I’m super sorry I over slept today 
2024-06-18 16:08:41 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Thanks for starting the meeting 
2024-06-18 16:09:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> no worries...
2024-06-18 16:09:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> The journey has been exhausting, can you still continue the chairing jednorozec please?
2024-06-18 16:10:01 <@humaton:fedora.im> yeah np
2024-06-18 16:10:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Thanks a lot
2024-06-18 16:10:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> jednorozec: 🍪
2024-06-18 16:10:37 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic scheduled actions coming up in the next week
2024-06-18 16:10:40 <@humaton:fedora.im> !info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are going to be due to be done in the next week
2024-06-18 16:11:59 <@humaton:fedora.im> so nils was asking about rpm autospec update
2024-06-18 16:12:17 <@humaton:fedora.im> I am thinking EU morning some day
2024-06-18 16:12:49 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, sometime when there's less builds would be ideal.
2024-06-18 16:13:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it shouldn't be a big deal, but will restart anything thats in progress.
2024-06-18 16:13:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> What about it? I’m sorry missing context? Is there anyway I can help regarding that!?
2024-06-18 16:13:47 <@humaton:fedora.im> yeah, it might be a good idea to send notice to fedora devel 
2024-06-18 16:13:51 <@humaton:fedora.im> like day before?
2024-06-18 16:13:53 <@rico0098:fedora.im> !hi
2024-06-18 16:13:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Nishant Mishra (rico0098)
2024-06-18 16:14:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I don't think it's really needed... but you can if you like.
2024-06-18 16:14:27 <@rico0098:fedora.im> hello 
2024-06-18 16:14:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> It really won't be very noticed...
2024-06-18 16:14:45 <@humaton:fedora.im> Hi Nishant Mishra 
2024-06-18 16:14:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning Nishant Mishra
2024-06-18 16:14:58 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 0/
2024-06-18 16:15:00 <@rico0098:fedora.im> nirik: very good evening from India
2024-06-18 16:15:22 <@humaton:fedora.im> ok so some day after the nighties are done and there is not much happening 
2024-06-18 16:15:44 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure.
2024-06-18 16:15:49 <@rico0098:fedora.im> just hopped on the Rawhide Bandwagon for the next release cycle is there anything releng wise to look out for?
2024-06-18 16:16:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nothing leaps to mind, but there's always bugs and things to report/fix. :)
2024-06-18 16:17:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> But as we progress and the releng items we do we keep track and talk about in #releng channel 
2024-06-18 16:17:42 <@rico0098:fedora.im> link please
2024-06-18 16:17:53 <@humaton:fedora.im> https://matrix.to/#/#releng:fedoraproject.org
2024-06-18 16:18:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Thanks :D
2024-06-18 16:18:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> lets move on with the agenda
2024-06-18 16:18:50 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic Tickets needing attention
2024-06-18 16:18:56 <@humaton:fedora.im> !info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc
2024-06-18 16:19:09 <@humaton:fedora.im> !releng 12163
2024-06-18 16:19:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 5 days ago by blackwell
2024-06-18 16:19:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12163** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12163):**Fedora Server VM Image Elevation to Distribution Media**
2024-06-18 16:19:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-06-18 16:19:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-06-18 16:19:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 22 hours ago
2024-06-18 16:19:26 <@humaton:fedora.im> ha
2024-06-18 16:19:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> this needs to just be closed I think?
2024-06-18 16:19:39 <@humaton:fedora.im> I see now that they dont have fesco approval and ticket yet
2024-06-18 16:19:45 <@humaton:fedora.im> yup
2024-06-18 16:20:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yes
2024-06-18 16:20:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I can add a comment for that after the meeting about this and close of?
2024-06-18 16:20:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure, +1
2024-06-18 16:20:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Done!
2024-06-18 16:21:00 <@humaton:fedora.im> I just closed it as invalid adam linked the policy... But if you want please write a comment
2024-06-18 16:21:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Awesome!
2024-06-18 16:21:42 <@humaton:fedora.im> so
2024-06-18 16:21:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> I see bunch of tickets with meeting tag
2024-06-18 16:22:05 <@humaton:fedora.im> do we want to talk about all or should I remove it from some?
2024-06-18 16:22:07 <@humaton:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/releng/issues?tags=meeting
2024-06-18 16:22:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I need to go over the changes mentioned on priority but I don’t have access to laptop atm 
2024-06-18 16:22:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Let’s try 
2024-06-18 16:23:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12165
2024-06-18 16:23:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 3 days ago by ngompa
2024-06-18 16:23:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-06-18 16:23:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 10 hours ago
2024-06-18 16:23:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12165** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12165):**F41 System-Wide Change: Mark Fedora KDE AArch64 as Release Blocking**
2024-06-18 16:23:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-06-18 16:24:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> This needs releng review here: https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1290
2024-06-18 16:24:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, if this is approved, it's just merging the pr... so we can say 'thanks for the heads up' and close it?
2024-06-18 16:24:53 <@humaton:fedora.im> yes
2024-06-18 16:25:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I need to check for the fesco approval I was looking into it in the morning didn’t get much time to look into it much
2024-06-18 16:25:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Will do
2024-06-18 16:25:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Thanks
2024-06-18 16:26:18 <@humaton:fedora.im> so each change has a wiki page
2024-06-18 16:26:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's not been voted on yet/etc...
2024-06-18 16:26:19 <@humaton:fedora.im> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_KDE_AArch64_ReleaseBlocker
2024-06-18 16:26:31 <@humaton:fedora.im> once they create FESCO ticket its linked there
2024-06-18 16:26:41 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yes just didn’t looked at it properly 
2024-06-18 16:26:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> But will follow up tomorrow on the ticket thanks 
2024-06-18 16:26:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12119
2024-06-18 16:26:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-06-18 16:26:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-06-18 16:26:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
2024-06-18 16:26:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 3 weeks ago by jplesnik
2024-06-18 16:26:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12119** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12119):**F41 System-wide change: Perl 5.40**
2024-06-18 16:27:57 <@humaton:fedora.im> i think this is done? once you merged the perl sidetag
2024-06-18 16:28:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think it was already merged? so yeah, close fixed?
2024-06-18 16:28:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think we can close this now there was a side tag thing that we did and merged it
2024-06-18 16:28:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yes exactly 
2024-06-18 16:28:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12077
2024-06-18 16:29:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-06-18 16:29:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a month ago by mattkae
2024-06-18 16:29:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 3 weeks ago
2024-06-18 16:29:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12077** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12077):**F41 Self-Contained Change: Fedora Miracle spin**
2024-06-18 16:29:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-06-18 16:29:15 <@humaton:fedora.im> so it was approved
2024-06-18 16:29:49 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yes, but all the todo items are... todo. ;)
2024-06-18 16:30:08 <@humaton:fedora.im> Its probably good idea to kekp it open and ping them about state of things and offer help maybe with config changes?
2024-06-18 16:30:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> proposal: ask in ticket for updates or if they need help?
2024-06-18 16:30:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think config changes but need to communicate I’ll do that 
2024-06-18 16:32:06 <@humaton:fedora.im> !releng 11728
2024-06-18 16:32:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-06-18 16:32:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11728** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11728):**Change impact: Python 3.13**
2024-06-18 16:32:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 8 months ago by ksurma
2024-06-18 16:32:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
2024-06-18 16:32:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-06-18 16:32:09 <@humaton:fedora.im> closing
2024-06-18 16:32:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> +1
2024-06-18 16:32:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1
2024-06-18 16:33:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11965
2024-06-18 16:33:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11965** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11965):**Collect Atomic Desktop artifacts under single directory**
2024-06-18 16:33:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-06-18 16:33:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** a month ago
2024-06-18 16:33:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 4 months ago by alebastr
2024-06-18 16:33:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-06-18 16:35:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess this requires some pungi config tweaking and seeing what we can do.
2024-06-18 16:35:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> We could ask in the ticket if anyone would like to propose a pr?
2024-06-18 16:36:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I can do that as well in the ticket and follow up on that 
2024-06-18 16:36:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 🆒
2024-06-18 16:37:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> That’s all I have 
2024-06-18 16:37:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> One more if patrikp is around 
2024-06-18 16:37:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12098
2024-06-18 16:37:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
2024-06-18 16:37:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-06-18 16:37:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12098** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12098):** Renaming distribution media for Fedora Server**
2024-06-18 16:37:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** patrikp
2024-06-18 16:37:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a month ago by jwhimpel
2024-06-18 16:37:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> If there are some blockers etc 
2024-06-18 16:38:04 <@humaton:fedora.im> I was just going to ask if we have any updates on that
2024-06-18 16:38:58 <@humaton:fedora.im> 4 weeks until rebuild and about 6 before branching ideal time to break things :)
2024-06-18 16:39:15 <@humaton:fedora.im> there is enough time to fix it without stress
2024-06-18 16:40:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay
2024-06-18 16:40:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> But that’s all from my end 
2024-06-18 16:40:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Thanks for running jednorozec it
2024-06-18 16:40:54 <@humaton:fedora.im> so
2024-06-18 16:40:57 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic Discussion / All other Business / Blockers
2024-06-18 16:41:12 <@humaton:fedora.im> signing troubles...
2024-06-18 16:41:39 <@humaton:fedora.im> I was looking at robosignatory and sigul code, nirik you mentioned you know where the problem is 
2024-06-18 16:41:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, I need to find some patrick time to look into it.
2024-06-18 16:41:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's not in robosignatoryu
2024-06-18 16:41:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's in sigul
2024-06-18 16:42:14 <@humaton:fedora.im> yeah I thought so was looking into it as well
2024-06-18 16:42:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's when a package has a zillion small subpackages... sometimes the bridge stalls out downloading them all
2024-06-18 16:42:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but the sigul code is... very complicated.
2024-06-18 16:43:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so far thats: glibc, root, pcp and ghc...
2024-06-18 16:44:15 <@humaton:fedora.im> so is it the bridge that stalls?
2024-06-18 16:44:35 <@humaton:fedora.im> 1.5k python lines
2024-06-18 16:44:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it seems like. There's a network connection to kojipkgs that has bytes in send/recq queue
2024-06-18 16:45:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> feel free to look... I'll try and get some patrick time.
2024-06-18 16:45:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> It also could be if we fix head signing that would fix it (since it wouldn't need to download entire rpms anymore)
2024-06-18 16:46:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> hmm
2024-06-18 16:47:38 <@humaton:fedora.im> there is a bunch of code I am not sure why it is there like kojiClient
2024-06-18 16:47:42 <@humaton:fedora.im> anyhow
2024-06-18 16:47:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> I will read it a bit more
2024-06-18 16:48:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's a complicated setup... involving a client and a bridge and a server and the client and server only ever talk to the bridge, never each other directly.
2024-06-18 16:48:26 <@humaton:fedora.im> hmm
2024-06-18 16:48:38 <@humaton:fedora.im> I see mitr there, met him at devconf
2024-06-18 16:48:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but that allows the server to never accept anything incoming, its only ever talking out
2024-06-18 16:48:49 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, he's the orig author. ;)
2024-06-18 16:51:40 <@humaton:fedora.im> ok, that is all from me
2024-06-18 16:52:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I didn't really have anything else... trying to catch up and also get well again. :(
2024-06-18 16:55:19 <@humaton:fedora.im> same here, still under the weather. But the signing troubles keeps bothering me
2024-06-18 16:55:24 <@humaton:fedora.im> 
2024-06-18 16:55:24 <@humaton:fedora.im> !info Thank you all for coming.
2024-06-18 16:55:24 <@humaton:fedora.im> !endmeeting