<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:00:04
!startmeeting Infrastructure (2024-09-05)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:06
Meeting started at 2024-09-05 16:00:04 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:06
The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2024-09-05)'
<@smilner:fedora.im>
16:00:09
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:00:09
None (smilner)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:00:11
!chair nirik zlopez nb bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg patrikp
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:00:11
!info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:00:11
!meetingname infrastructure
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:00:11
!topic ahoy
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:00:11
!info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:00:11
!info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:12
The Meeting Name is now infrastructure
<@leo:fedora.im>
16:00:21
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:00:22
Leo Puvilland (leo) - he / him / his
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:00:41
morning everyone. will wait a min or two for folks to arrive.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:01:14
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:01:16
James Antill (james)
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:02:04
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:02:06
Michal Konecny (zlopez)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:02:10
!topic New folks introductions
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:02:10
!info Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:02:10
!info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:02:17
any new folks today?
<@rickdev:matrix.org>
16:03:12
Hi! I'm Ricky. I recently graduated and work as a devops engineer. Very interested in contributing to fedora's infrastructure!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:03:24
hey Ricky D! welcome.
<@lenkaseg:fedora.im>
16:03:26
.hi
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:03:39
Welcome @rickdev:matrix.org
<@lenkaseg:fedora.im>
16:03:53
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:03:54
Lenka Segura (lenkaseg)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:04:06
our docs are in a bit of disarry, but hopefully the getting started doc can get you started. ;) Do feel free to ask questions or chime in on things that interest you.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:24
alright then, shall we move on...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:29
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:29
!info chair 2024-09-26 - ?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:29
!info chair 2024-09-12 - zlopez
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:29
!info magic eight ball says:
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:29
!topic Next chair
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:29
!info chair 2024-09-19 - ?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:50
Anyone want to take it for the 19th/26th? or shall we leave it open until next time?
<@lenkaseg:fedora.im>
16:06:38
I can!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:06:52
awesome. 19th? or 26th?
<@lenkaseg:fedora.im>
16:07:22
both would work, 19 th then
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:07:28
ok, sold.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:07:43
!info F41 Beta freeze started ( 2024-08-27 )
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:07:43
!topic announcements and information
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:07:43
!info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0800 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:07:43
!info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:07:53
any other announcements?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:08:23
!info we are proposing to retire the monitor-gating service. Let us know if you see a need for it still.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:08:53
!info We are looking at cleaning up fedora-infra group on pagure.io https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/pagure-fedora-infra-group-cleanup/128714/2
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:10:15
good stuff. ;)
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:10:48
offers a barrel of kerosene and a matrch
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:10:48
I found it in my backlog, so I decided to look at it again, any feedback is appreciated
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:11:07
Good to see you @smooge:fedora.im
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:11:21
I was thinking of people in the groups
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:11:37
well not in reality.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:11:46
There's also a thread on items from our workshop... might try and start filing those as tickets and/or finding people to work on them.
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:11:53
more like there are some groups with a lot of people who might not need access etc
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:12:31
yeah. we talked about that... I think that was an action from the workshop to make sure people still want to be in various groups
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:13:28
Maybe we could just ask them to reply to e-mail and remove those that don't
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:13:46
Each group separately
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:13:50
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/report-from-infra-and-releng-hackfest-at-flock2024/128743
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:14:38
depending on the group, I think the method we used a while back is best: file a ticket, and @ mention people in the group and ask them to add a comment if they are still wanting to be in the group. Then, at deadline remove everyone who didn't answer.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:15:10
That is probably better as this will notify them on multiple places
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:15:54
It would be helpful to do this for most of the admin groups at least
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:16
sure.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:16:31
But we are derailing the meeting now, let's get back to our agenda
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:46
yeah, no problem... good to discuss. :)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:51
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:51
!info ? is on call from 2024-09-20 to 2024-09-27
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:51
!info zlopez is on call from 2024-09-06 to 2024-09-19
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:51
!topic Oncall
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:51
!info lenkaseg is on call from 2024-08-30 to 2024-09-05
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:51
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:51
!info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:17:08
anyone want to sign up for that last slot? or shall we wait and assign it later?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:18:02
Let me assign myself
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:18
you want two weeks in a row? ;) ok...
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:18:37
I mean to zodbot oncall for next week :-D
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:52
ah, ok. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:55
!info Summary of last week: (from current oncall)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:19:06
lenkaseg: any oncall activity this last week?
<@lenkaseg:fedora.im>
16:20:39
nope, not a single one
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:21:21
alrighty.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:21:31
!info Go over existing out items and fix
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:21:31
!info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:21:31
!topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:22:22
So, we have two down aarch64 boxes now due to bad memory. They are out of warentee, but might be worth picking up some memory to limp them along until we retire them next year...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:22:36
one down dell for hardware reasons.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:23:05
Nothing else much new... fedoraplanet messages, a bad disk in another server...
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:23:54
How does it look with the fedoraplanet messages? I remember seeing some PR for that
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:24:21
phsmoura was working on it. I am not sure where he's at... might need some review of changes?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:24:42
the pr was for the certs... but the script itself has to emit the messages too
<@phsmoura:fedora.im>
16:25:20
It was breaking in stg, I fixed yesterday and now just fixing the trailing spaces in ansible playbook
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:25:43
cool.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:26:05
Yeah, I know the ipa cluster stuff in stg was breaking fasjson for a bit... I took the down servers out of dns there.
<@james:fedora.im>
16:26:14
For the memory, can we just buy new memory and have someone put it in easily?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:26:51
James Antill: yeah, hopefully. I am not sure if onsite people could do that or if it would need to wait for the next site visit from RH folks...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:28:04
But I'll try and find out. :)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:28:21
So, moving on then to our good old friend:
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:28:26
!topic RHEL7 EOL
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:28:44
I think the last thing is github2fedmsg. I am not sure the exact status tho
<@smilner:fedora.im>
16:29:07
Do we know who was focusing on github2fedmsg?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:29:10
also, we may want to retire / orphan the fedmsg packages in rawhide/f41. They currently fail to build
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:29:53
Akashdeep Dhar was working on it I think. There was some things I saw that indicated it was almost done/ready to migrate to... but not 100% sure
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:29:55
Yes, @abompard:fedora.im and @t0xic0der:fedora.im are working on that
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:30:42
It should be ready soon from what I know
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:30:54
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2291518 <- python3-fedmsg fails to install in f41.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:30:59
I would be happy to see fedmsg retired
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:31:31
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2291698 <- python3-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:31:50
That one is really outdated
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:32:03
would anyone like to take on finding those and retiring them? ;)
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:32:36
How much we will actually retire with fedmsg? fedmsg itself, meta package and fedmsg bridge is what I remember
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
16:33:25
Is this something I can do? I guess I need to read up on how to get that done.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:30
#2304216 ASSIGNED - infra-sig@lists.fedoraproject.org - F41FailsToInstall: python3-mailman3-fedmsg-plugin
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:33:33
I would like to look at it, but I already have plenty of things on my TODO list
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:42
this is misnamed now I think?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:34:09
That shouldn't have fedmsg as a dependency anymore
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:34:10
Aggraxis (Paul Maconi): well, you'd need to be a packager I guess first...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:34:30
yeah, but then it should not fail to install... so needs looking.
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
16:34:32
Ok. Maybe I should actually look into becoming one first, then.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:34:39
@niri
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
16:34:41
That's not a bad thing for me to do anywyas
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
16:34:54
That's not a bad thing for me to do anyways
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:35:04
sure. Let me know if you submit something for review, I can try and review and sponsor you...
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:35:12
@nirik From what I remember the version that is packaged in Fedora is not the one that is actually being used on EPEL9
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:35:40
Zlopez: ugh, ok. We should update it then...
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:36:03
I would need to reach to @abompard:fedora.im about that one
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:36:29
I think it's being build on COPR, but I'm not sure
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:36:57
:( would be nice to have it standardized and in epel and such...
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:37:41
Or at least in infra-sig
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:37:51
yeah
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:11
Oh, in related news, I made a slight bit of progress on that last host where I cannot reach mgmt... They had confusion about what machine I was talking about... they thought the one I was talking about was powered off/no longer used, but no... so hopefully they will look at the actual machine I want access to soon. ;)
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:39:15
We should probably update the fedmsg->fedora messaging migration ticket with the next steps that we need to take
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:28
yes, thats a great idea!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:46
we should also consider some scheduled time to take fedmsg bus down...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:40:00
(which also means taking down the messaging-bridges)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:40:21
perhaps after f41 release?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:41:01
I would wait for webhook2fedmsg to be in place first
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:41:12
yeah, probibly wise.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:06
related, we should consider what we want to do with rabbitmq servers at some point. They are all on rhel8 using rabbitmq from openstack. Thats fine for now, but someday we may want newer...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:56
but thats not at all urgent.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:44:24
ok, anything else on rhel7 stuff?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:45:29
We should look at rhel8 stuff next, it's not urgent, but it would be nice to start working on that
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:45:41
I don't have anything else for rhel7
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:46:40
there's not many rhel8 hosts left. :) I have been moving them... there's some virthosts that I haven't moved yet because they would need an outage, and rabbitmq...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:47:34
well, and pagure02/pkgs01 and their stg counterparts.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:47:51
anyhow, we have just a bit of time left, shall we go to open floor?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:47:56
!topic Open Floor
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:48:06
anything anyone would like to discuss/ask?
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
16:48:56
My schedule has been weird, so this is kind of delayed, but I did want to say that it was nice meeting folks at Flock. You guys were really awesome to my son and me. :) Thank you for that.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:49:10
I created a template for gitlab test instance account approval on fedora infra issue tracker, so it's easier for us and for people asking for account
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:49:25
It was great to meet you (and your son)! :)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:49:56
Zlopez: oh yeah, I was meaning to ask... whats the process there ? can we get more folks able to add people?
<@smilner:fedora.im>
16:50:01
Y'all were awesome too Aggraxis (Paul Maconi)! 😄
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:54:43
alright, if nothing else we can close on out and let folks get back to their day. ;) As always in #admin:fedoraproject.org and #noc:fedoraproject.org and #apps:fedoraproject.org
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:55:23
Thanks for coming everyone!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:55:26
!endmeeting