<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:30:26
!startmeeting RELENG (2024-11-11)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:30:27
Meeting started at 2024-11-11 16:30:26 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:30:27
The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-11-11)'
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:30:35
!chair nirik jnsamyak patrikp
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:30:35
!meetingname releng
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:30:35
!info Agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:30:35
!info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stops.
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:30:36
The Meeting Name is now releng
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:30:46
hello hello
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:30:54
how's everyone doing today?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:30:55
Hi!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:31:09
morning
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:31:29
!topic Init process.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:31:29
Do we have anything for the init? Any blockers/tasks/issues/requests/features that need releng intervention?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:31:39
I have a quick one if I may.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:31:56
!releng 12411
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:31:57
● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by patrikp
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:31:57
● **Last Updated:** 27 minutes ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:31:57
**releng #12411** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12411):**Update the Final RC SOP**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:31:57
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:31:57
● **Assignee:** patrikp
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:32:25
https://pagure.io/infra-docs-fpo/pull-request/330
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:32:25
I updated the SOPs for the release candidates. Review (or merge) is appreciated.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:32:25
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:32:52
That's it from me for the init.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:32:55
ok i'll add it to my list for tomorrow
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:33:53
Oh, how's the investigation follow up from the ODCS transitioning coming along? Any questions and blockers on that? Nothing from my end as well, I have items for the next topic;
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:34:45
I need to refresh my memory and take another look at the doc you wrote.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:34:50
yeah, can look at that too. Thanks for the PR
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:35:01
Next topic then...
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:35:07
!link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-releng-tasks.html
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:35:07
!info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are due to be done in the next week.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:35:07
!topic Scheduled actions coming up in the next week.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:35:55
should possibly switch that link to f42 now?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:36:15
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-42/f-42-releng-tasks.html
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:36:33
patrikp: just fyi as we discussed it earlier, we decided it to go with the method one from now - to have a pungi config and test it out as how the compose is running
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:36:35
next thing I know of coming up is f39 eol
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:37:29
actually no, we have this week: moving from development/f41 repo and removing old beta/rc's?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:37:51
yes we have the post release cleanup schedule for tomorrow
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:39:59
EOL is 26/11
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:41:19
yep
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:41:21
Should we track the cleanup in a ticket maybe?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:41:50
This is the SOP?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:41:50
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/release_guide/release_post_cleanup/
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:41:50
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:45
thats it yeah
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:42:59
yeo
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:43:02
yo
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:43:09
Can I create a ticket for it?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:43:41
fine with me.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:44:03
I usually do it as part of release process but ticket is also fine with me if you like
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:45:19
I would like to try some of the steps if possible.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:45:45
sure why not, do you have something in mind? Want to handle how torrent section?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:46:07
I think this will be a good candidate for the releases as well in future
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:46:33
sure why not, do you have something in mind? Want to handle the torrent section?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:47:57
Let's move on then? I want to discuss things regarding konflux in the open section
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:48:50
Yes.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:48:57
Just for reference here's the ticket.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:49:01
!releng 12449
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:49:02
**releng #12449** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12449):**Fedora Linux 41 Post Release Clean Up Tracker**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:49:02
● **Opened:** 20 seconds ago by patrikp
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:49:02
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:49:02
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:49:02
● **Last Updated:** Never
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:49:06
On to the next topic...
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:49:29
Do you have any tickets or can we go straight to open floor then?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:50:16
Alright, let's choose the next chair and then we go to open floor.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:50:23
!topic Choose next chair.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:50:23
!info next chair Nov 18 - ???
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:50:43
I can take next week too.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:51:08
there's probibly tickets we could close...
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:51:28
!info next chair Nov 18 - Patrik
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:51:33
!info This is the time where you can bring up releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers, etc.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:51:33
!topic Tickets that need attention.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:51:39
Let's do some tickets real quick then.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:52:00
Then we go straight to open floor.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:52:07
I'm finishing two things simulatenously apologies for delayed response
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:52:38
https://pagure.io/releng/issues
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:52:52
!releng 12378
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:52:53
**releng #12378** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12378):**Fedora-FEX-Rootfs is missing from koji tags**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:52:53
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:52:53
● **Opened:** a month ago by dcavalca
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:52:53
● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:52:53
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:53:08
nirik: do you think we can try these changes now?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:54:08
I suppose... I don't like carrying downstream patches much tho... 1.35.1 might be out soonish...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:54:38
.2 I mean
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:54:46
ah so we can wait yes .2
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:55:27
I can try and backport... see how difficult it is
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:55:36
!releng 12401
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:55:37
● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:55:37
**releng #12401** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12401):**libpreludedb appears in Koji repo even though it's long retired**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:55:37
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:55:37
● **Opened:** 3 weeks ago by ksurma
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:55:37
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:55:54
on this can we just block that list in 'rawhide' tag and close?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:56:53
These all should be blocked? https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12401#comment-940326
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:57:38
yeah, but now I am confused, it should inherit? or hum
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:57:48
ahhhh
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:57:55
i did not know this happened
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:57:58
```This is probibly fallout from the new dynamic repo gen. In the past we just had a synlink from repo/rawhide/latest/ that just pointed to f42-build/latest. So, rawhide and f42-build were the exact same thing.```
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:58:53
yeah. they are actually different tags in koji...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:59:05
shit :3
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:59:24
So one question, when someone comes to us these days with unretirement
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:59:25
but they inherit... so I am not sure again why some are not showing as blocked.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:59:35
and say hey we want to unretire it for rawhide
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:59:43
we use to unblock it from f42 tag
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:59:48
yes
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:59:58
should we seprately do it for rawhide tag as well?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:00:14
no
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:00:21
at branching we do:
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:00:29
```
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:00:29
"${KOJICLI}" add-tag-inheritance rawhide "f${release}"
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:00:29
"${KOJICLI}" remove-tag-inheritance rawhide "f${old_release}"
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:00:29
```
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:00:46
so it should inherit. Somehow these packages didn't...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:00:46
yes exactly
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
LOCKED
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
```
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
0 .... f42 [94089]
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
Inheritance:
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
Current repo: repo#6530726: 2024-11-11 15:20:40.729720+00:00
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
repo.opts : {'separate_src': True}
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
repo.auto : True
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
mock.package_manager : 'dnf5' [f42]
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
Tag: rawhide [197]
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
Arches: aarch64 i686 ppc64le s390x x86_64
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
Groups: appliance-build, build, kiwi-build, livecd-build, livemedia-build, srpm-build
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
Tag options:
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
mock.new_chroot : 1 [f42]
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
and as a result this is here
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:00
```
<@smilner:fedora.im>
17:01:07
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:08
None (smilner)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:20
ah so for some packages it happened:(
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:34
Okay i can block them in rawhide and close this ticket
<@amedvede:fedora.im>
17:02:07
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:02:07
Anton Medvedev (amedvede)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:02:26
yeah, past me who wrote that in the ticket says: yes. ;) current me is wondering how it happened, but I guess I am not sure I want to dig into it too much
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:03:22
no worries one quick script will fix it now
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:03:29
hey hey Anton Medvedev Steve
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:04:08
PSA: From next week these meetings will start one hour earlier. The calendar already reflects this.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:04:12
just fyi we are moving the time for the meeting a bit early from the next time, otherwise with the time we had it started at 10:30 pm for me. Now it will start at 10 (4 UTC)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:04:24
!releng 12314
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:25
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:25
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:25
● **Last Updated:** 3 weeks ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:25
● **Opened:** 2 months ago by petersen
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:25
**releng #12314** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12314):**fedora:41 and fedora:42 images out of date in the registry.fedoraproject.org**
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:04:32
I think we can close this one?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:04:37
just fyi we are moving the time for the meeting a bit early from the next time, otherwise with the time we had it started at 10:30 pm for me. Now it will start at 9:30 PM (4 UTC)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:04:56
+1
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:05:54
!releng 12302
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:05:55
**releng #12302** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12302):**Everything Network installer torrent is missing on torrent page**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:05:55
● **Opened:** 2 months ago by zlopez
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:05:55
● **Last Updated:** a month ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:05:55
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:05:55
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:06:10
can we just close this one? or does someone want to advocate for adding network installer?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:06:58
already did!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:07:00
hehe
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:07:03
great!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:08:23
!releng 12408
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:08:24
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:08:24
● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:08:24
● **Opened:** 3 weeks ago by mpearson
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:08:24
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:08:24
**releng #12408** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12408):** Lenovo: F40 official iso for AMD platforms preload **
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:08:44
I'll comment and close this one if I dont hear any problems from them in next day
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:09:07
ok
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:11:54
Any more tickets? Or we go to open floor?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:13:12
oh, I have one simple thing someone can fix...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:13:54
It's actually an infra ticket but overlaps with releng:
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:14:02
!ticket 11833
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:14:02
● **Last Updated:** a week ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:14:02
● **Opened:** 8 months ago by sgallagh
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:14:02
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:14:02
**fedora-infrastructure #11833** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11833):**Add yselkowitz to list to notify when ELN builds fail**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:14:02
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:14:13
oh, jnsamyak is already assigned. oops. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:14:50
I think I found the problem tho... it's because eln used to use "ELN" in composes, but now uses 'eln' and the failed-composes script looks for the wrong one.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:15:10
anyhow. If someone wants a python poking job. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:15:19
thats all, fine to go to open floor for me
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:15:35
oh i need to see thanks for the ping abou tit
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:15:39
oh i need to see thanks for the ping about it
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:15:50
15 minutes to go...
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:15:53
!topic Discussion / Any other business.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:17:50
okay i was reading this recently and wanted to know more opinions about it to where and how should we start on this
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:17:50
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/konflux-fedora-bootc/134947/2
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:18:02
the konflux integration and releng future
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:18:20
so i think the first step for all the relengers is to start looking what konflux is
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:18:25
and etc
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:18:39
nirik: did you get lucky to test it out?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:19:16
I have not had time to dig into it very deeply at all. It's on my list. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:19:54
I do know that some teams are investigating it... bootc folks and coreos folks are looking at how they could use it.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:20:11
yes I'm planning to start with writing an onboarding doc for us in general
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:20:21
!link https://github.com/konflux-ci/konflux-ci?tab=readme-ov-file#konflux-ci
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:20:30
but it;s on my list not started etc
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:20:32
I definitely do want to play with it, I just haven't gotten to it. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:21:32
There is also a konflux fedora community meeting now...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:21:45
unfortunately it's too early for me, but perhaps you all would like to attend?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:22:16
Do you have more information on the meeting?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:22:30
I don't see it in the Fedora calendar.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:22:34
oh yes why not!!!!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:22:40
Shooot at us
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:22:52
it's 13UTC... I think they mentioned it on the discussion thread.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:23:46
https://github.com/konflux-ci/community/pull/7
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:23:47
Hmm, I don't see it.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:24:07
!link https://github.com/konflux-ci/community/pull/7
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:24:43
12UTC I guess...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:24:48
https://github.com/konflux-ci/community/blob/main/sigs/fedora.md
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:25:04
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/konflux-meetings-every-other-wednesday/131996
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:25:06
"Every other week on Wednesday, we'll also hold an open sync call on Wednesday at 12:00 PM UTC, 8:00 AM US/Eastern at [this link](https://meet.google.com/wcr-uvhx-xug)."
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:25:41
We tried to find a new time I could make it too, but alas...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:26:01
anyhow, I encourage you all to attend and ask questions/follow along if you like
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:26:24
Alright, 4 minutes left. Closing thoughts?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:26:31
yes thank you!
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:26:40
I was on PTO when the desk game was played and I was wondering if Kevin's desk was there too.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:26:57
That's all I have thanks for chairing the meeting, I'm on PTO from 20-26 November just fyi
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:27:08
Next week we should try and go thru old tickets and close... this is the part of the cycle where we can make some progress.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:27:23
patrikp: alas, I was busy and didn't submit mine. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:27:46
yes
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:27:47
I would be very curious.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:27:47
oh yeah, I am also on PTO that week (thanksgiving in the us)
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:28:22
OK, if there's nothing else we can end it.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:28:28
!endmeeting
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:28:28
!info Thank you all for coming!