2025-01-06 16:00:10 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2025-01-06) 2025-01-06 16:00:12 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-01-06 16:00:10 UTC 2025-01-06 16:00:12 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2025-01-06)' 2025-01-06 16:00:19 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !info Agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw. 2025-01-06 16:00:19 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !chair nirik jnsamyak patrikp amedvede 2025-01-06 16:00:19 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stops. 2025-01-06 16:00:19 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !meetingname releng 2025-01-06 16:00:20 <@smilner:fedora.im> !hi 2025-01-06 16:00:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (smilner) 2025-01-06 16:00:22 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now releng 2025-01-06 16:00:47 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Welcome to the first releng meeting of 2025. I hope everyone had a good time in December. 2025-01-06 16:01:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning 2025-01-06 16:02:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Hope everyone had a great holiday season... 2025-01-06 16:04:21 <@amedvede:fedora.im> better than greatπŸ˜… 2025-01-06 16:05:22 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Should we wait a bit more for Samyak? I had a 1:1 with him earlier today and I think he said he'd join, perhaps it has to do with the one hour shift of the meeting time. Let me ping him on Slack. 2025-01-06 16:06:05 <@leo:fedora.im> morning 2025-01-06 16:08:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hello 2025-01-06 16:08:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> sorry 2025-01-06 16:08:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I thought the meeting is in an hour 2025-01-06 16:08:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> :( 2025-01-06 16:08:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> how's everyone doing? 2025-01-06 16:08:51 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Happy new year! πŸ’“ 2025-01-06 16:09:27 <@smilner:fedora.im> Happy new year! 2025-01-06 16:09:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> πŸ‘‹ yeah, we moved the meeting around a bit... 2025-01-06 16:09:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hehehe good for me :D 2025-01-06 16:09:44 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Do we keep this meeting time then? Does it work for both of you guys? (for Czech timezone either time works) 2025-01-06 16:09:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> an hour later would be better for me, but not others, so... I'm fine keeping it here 2025-01-06 16:10:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 9:30/10:30 pm doesn't do much of a difference so I'm fine with any also 2025-01-06 16:10:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hehe 2025-01-06 16:10:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (but I do have to go feed cats in the middle for a bit) 2025-01-06 16:10:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> let's start? 2025-01-06 16:11:00 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Alright let's start with the init process then. 2025-01-06 16:11:04 <@amedvede:fedora.im> πŸ’€πŸ’€ 2025-01-06 16:11:04 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Do we have anything for the init? Any blockers/tasks/issues/requests/features that need releng intervention? 2025-01-06 16:11:04 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !topic Init process. 2025-01-06 16:11:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I have two things to bring up for everyone attention! 2025-01-06 16:12:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> First, while going to issue tracker and triaging the issues I came accross a community request, where people want to send the compose reports to a new mailing list - instead of devel 2025-01-06 16:13:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep. There was a thread about it on devel... 2025-01-06 16:13:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (again) 2025-01-06 16:13:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> this request makes sense to me, as it was pointed the functionality to search get affected because of these regular reports \ 2025-01-06 16:13:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> πŸ‘€ 2025-01-06 16:13:23 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !releng 12511 2025-01-06 16:13:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a week ago by supakeen 2025-01-06 16:13:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak 2025-01-06 16:13:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12511** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12511):**Send compose reports to a to-be-created separate ML** 2025-01-06 16:13:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2025-01-06 16:13:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 9 hours ago 2025-01-06 16:14:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, it's come up several times before... 2025-01-06 16:14:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> was there any specific reason we didnt do it before? 2025-01-06 16:14:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I didn't want them to propose it, have 3 people say sure and implement it over the holidays before everyone else was back. 2025-01-06 16:14:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, in the past it was helpful to be able to comment on specific parts of the report back to the list. 2025-01-06 16:14:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that makes sense^ 2025-01-06 16:15:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but that isn't happening too much these days, and you could still do that from another list post I guess. 2025-01-06 16:15:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> absolutely 2025-01-06 16:16:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/DB7I4GXTYGJAAIJBJMQUQ4WRX3XHHGAD/ is the current thread 2025-01-06 16:16:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyhow, IMHO, we should wait and see if anyone else chimes in since people should be back from holidays... 2025-01-06 16:17:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and then act like next week? 2025-01-06 16:17:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> as a side note, we shoudl not make a new list. We should just tell people to subscribe to the existing test-reports list that already has these and just stop sending to devel. ;) 2025-01-06 16:17:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep I can keep an eye on this 2025-01-06 16:18:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sounds good. 2025-01-06 16:19:56 <@amedvede:fedora.im> what the second thing jnsamyak ? 2025-01-06 16:20:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> oh yes, we have lots of 42 changes incoming, I'll take in the ticket sections 2025-01-06 16:21:22 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Next section then? I'm never sure when someone is actually typing something. 2025-01-06 16:21:29 <@amedvede:fedora.im> 1 thing I also would like to mention 2025-01-06 16:22:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that's it from my side on the init process, btw patrikp and I had a 1:1 today, and he had made progress with the koji runroot (with the setup and how to use it) wer discussed that we should test the command in a side tag to test if the composing is done as expected, what do you all think about that? And patrikp do you want to add anything else? 2025-01-06 16:22:34 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Nope, that's about it. 2025-01-06 16:22:56 <@amedvede:fedora.im> but maybe its better to move on openfloor section of meeting, its connected with issue that a lot of people facing after updating to the fedora 41 2025-01-06 16:23:47 <@amedvede:fedora.im> lets move on, i will return to it at the end 2025-01-06 16:24:50 <@patrikp:matrix.org> It shows me that Kevin is still typing, anything to add or shall we move on? 2025-01-06 16:25:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I was typing in another window. ;) so no, nothing from me... 2025-01-06 16:25:24 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Alright, moving on then! 2025-01-06 16:25:33 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-42/f-42-releng-tasks.html 2025-01-06 16:25:33 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-releng-tasks.html 2025-01-06 16:25:33 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are due to be done in the next week. 2025-01-06 16:25:33 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !topic Scheduled actions coming up in the next week. 2025-01-06 16:25:53 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !info Mass rebuild of RPMs will happen next week, Wednesday, January 15th. 2025-01-06 16:26:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we should ping changes that want mass rebuild and make sure they are ready 2025-01-06 16:26:57 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/release_guide/mass_rebuild/ 2025-01-06 16:27:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> perhaps a mass rebuild tracking ticket and cc folks to say they are ready? (is that how we did it last time?) 2025-01-06 16:27:33 <@patrikp:matrix.org> It says that the rebuild has to be approved by FESCo. 2025-01-06 16:28:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> mass rebuilding is already here hehe 2025-01-06 16:28:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> time flies 2025-01-06 16:28:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep. And I know there are some approved changes that need a mass rebuild (as usual) 2025-01-06 16:29:17 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Yes, we had a ticket for that. 2025-01-06 16:29:23 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !releng 12195 2025-01-06 16:29:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 6 months ago by jnsamyak 2025-01-06 16:29:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak 2025-01-06 16:29:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 6 months ago 2025-01-06 16:29:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Closed: Fixed** 6 months ago by jnsamyak 2025-01-06 16:29:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2025-01-06 16:29:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12195** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12195):**Fedora 41 Mass Rebuild Tracker** 2025-01-06 16:29:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yes, we have tickets, and I can create a same tracker for F42 2025-01-06 16:30:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I needed to test the script, so i can add a retry logic :( Let's see if I can do it this week 2025-01-06 16:30:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF42 at least... I think there's a number needing processing which should happen now that we are back... 2025-01-06 16:31:11 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Let's move to the next section then and look at the tickets? 2025-01-06 16:31:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> aye aye' 2025-01-06 16:31:39 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !info This is the time where you can bring up releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers, etc. 2025-01-06 16:31:39 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !topic Tickets that need attention. 2025-01-06 16:33:01 <@amedvede:fedora.im> how are you guys doing this status message? xdd like *amedvede asking how are you doing status message 2025-01-06 16:33:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> wdym? 2025-01-06 16:33:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ohhh this `/me` 2025-01-06 16:33:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> starts with /me 2025-01-06 16:34:03 <@amedvede:fedora.im> yeah, let me try 2025-01-06 16:34:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hehe new year gift to you - owe me a coffee :D 2025-01-06 16:34:30 <@amedvede:fedora.im> oooh great 2025-01-06 16:34:30 <@smilner:fedora.im> It's a ye ol' IRC commandde 2025-01-06 16:35:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ok for tickets! I want to discuss changes first 2025-01-06 16:35:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/releng/issues?tags=changes&status=Open 2025-01-06 16:35:39 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12507 2025-01-06 16:35:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago 2025-01-06 16:35:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2025-01-06 16:35:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2025-01-06 16:35:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by salimma 2025-01-06 16:35:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12507** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12507):**F42 self-contained change: Django 5.x** 2025-01-06 16:36:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I dont think there is any releng impact here 2025-01-06 16:36:58 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and we can ask them to reture the packages if required by contacting the maintainers directly 2025-01-06 16:37:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so close? 2025-01-06 16:38:02 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Wow, Fedora really is bleeding edge. 2025-01-06 16:38:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and we can ask them to retire the packages if required by contacting the maintainers directly 2025-01-06 16:39:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> moving on 2025-01-06 16:39:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12506 2025-01-06 16:39:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2025-01-06 16:39:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2025-01-06 16:39:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago 2025-01-06 16:39:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by salimma 2025-01-06 16:39:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12506** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12506):**F42 system-wide change: protobuf 5.x/6.x** 2025-01-06 16:40:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> similarly, for this^ I'll ask them to reach out in case they need a side-tag etc, otherwise neither rebuilding/branching should get affected because of this 2025-01-06 16:42:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so close? Any sugesstions? 2025-01-06 16:43:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah. +1 on both those. 2025-01-06 16:43:37 <@amedvede:fedora.im> πŸ‘οΈ from me 2025-01-06 16:44:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12485 2025-01-06 16:44:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12485** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12485):**F42 Self-Contained Change: Replace SDL 2 with sdl2-compat using SDL 3** 2025-01-06 16:44:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2025-01-06 16:44:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a month ago by ngompa 2025-01-06 16:44:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** a minute ago 2025-01-06 16:44:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak 2025-01-06 16:44:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ditto. 2025-01-06 16:44:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I went through the proposal this morning, and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SDL2onSDL3 here and have similar thoughts 2025-01-06 16:44:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> correct 2025-01-06 16:45:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12455 2025-01-06 16:45:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a month ago by ngompa 2025-01-06 16:45:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** a month ago 2025-01-06 16:45:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak 2025-01-06 16:45:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2025-01-06 16:45:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12455** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12455):**F42 Self-Contained Change: LXQt 2.1** 2025-01-06 16:45:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and i have same opinion 2025-01-06 16:45:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep. 2025-01-06 16:45:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12299 2025-01-06 16:45:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12299** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12299):**Impact check for Changes/FEX** 2025-01-06 16:45:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak 2025-01-06 16:45:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago 2025-01-06 16:45:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 4 months ago by dcavalca 2025-01-06 16:45:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2025-01-06 16:46:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> btw I'm not sure if this is accepted by fesco 2025-01-06 16:46:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yet 2025-01-06 16:46:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yes, it is. 2025-01-06 16:46:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ohh sorry it got landed in rawhide: https://pagure.io/fedora-kiwi-descriptions/pull-request/83 2025-01-06 16:46:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3273 2025-01-06 16:47:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep 2025-01-06 16:47:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but I think we can close that anyhow, as it's done? 2025-01-06 16:47:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay so question because, I think it might require some of our work 2025-01-06 16:48:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> at time of branching, we do add new artifacts to robosignatory right? Like onyx, serceia etxc 2025-01-06 16:48:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so that the compose get signed by the rawhide key (f42) in this case 2025-01-06 16:48:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I don't think we are signing these? 2025-01-06 16:49:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> dumb question incoming - how do we decide which artifacts should get signed? 2025-01-06 16:49:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> or does this come as part of the request? 2025-01-06 16:50:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, we sign the atomic things refs... we don't sign isos or the like (but we do sign the checksum files of them) 2025-01-06 16:50:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that answers 2025-01-06 16:51:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so I guess I would say we sign what we can... unless someone asks for more and helps us implement it. ;) 2025-01-06 16:51:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep 2025-01-06 16:52:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12098 2025-01-06 16:52:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 8 months ago by jwhimpel 2025-01-06 16:52:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** patrikp 2025-01-06 16:52:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 6 months ago 2025-01-06 16:52:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12098** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12098):** Renaming distribution media for Fedora Server** 2025-01-06 16:52:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2025-01-06 16:52:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Any updates on this? 2025-01-06 16:52:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Things are kinda silent here :) 2025-01-06 16:54:00 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> There was a bit of related talk due to moving one of the server images to kiwi... but I would have to go refresh myself on tickets to see if we ended up changing any names there. 2025-01-06 16:54:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i dont think we did, but yes need to do the same 2025-01-06 16:54:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> patrikp: did they reached out about this with some changes? 2025-01-06 16:55:01 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Not that I know of. 2025-01-06 16:55:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> can you ask and follow up in the ticket once, just to be sure? 2025-01-06 16:55:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> good time to check in after the holidays. 2025-01-06 16:56:07 <@patrikp:matrix.org> And ask what? 2025-01-06 16:56:13 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I stumbled into one of their meetings a while ago. 2025-01-06 16:56:40 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I think the latest update was that they would prefer releng to take the lead on this, I'm not sure if they looked into it any more in terms of investigation. 2025-01-06 16:57:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> then perhaps we should start looking at what changes are possible/how to make them? 2025-01-06 16:57:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> can you confirm if they were planning to go with the kiwi way of building it, and if they went ahead with it? 2025-01-06 16:57:54 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Perhaps a naive question but wouldn't this become clearer should the move to Konflux happen? 2025-01-06 16:58:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> konflux is a long way imho, nirik might know better 2025-01-06 16:59:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, unclear really... but not early this year for sure. Possibly later this year/43? 2025-01-06 16:59:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> πŸ™‡ 2025-01-06 17:00:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> but patrikp please follow up on this and see what's the expectations/progress is on this 2025-01-06 17:00:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> because I'm unware about the releng intervention here, last time i thought we were doing our own investigation just to be on a upperhand if they come to us with the request 2025-01-06 17:01:09 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Nobody knows how to do it in a nutshell. 2025-01-06 17:01:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> but i think the things will be clearer with the communication 2025-01-06 17:01:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, there's no one simple way... different images are made by different tools. 2025-01-06 17:01:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so you have to look at whats possible with that tool and then see how 2025-01-06 17:02:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> moving more to kiwi should help, because then less tools. ;) 2025-01-06 17:02:45 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Yeah. And to be clear they are not even close to opening a change proposal. It was a preliminary investigation to see if we could give them an answer about how to do it so that they could then move onto the proposal. 2025-01-06 17:02:51 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Anton Medvedev: what are the things you are working on? Can you colloborate with patrikp on this? 2025-01-06 17:03:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that explains, we should remove the f42 tag from the ticket meanwhile 2025-01-06 17:03:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> in case the change is not filed yet 2025-01-06 17:03:46 <@patrikp:matrix.org> It's not nor will it be any time soon... 2025-01-06 17:04:48 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Also they are aware that the best way to communicate with us is through that ticket. 2025-01-06 17:04:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think they want it changed, but don't know how... 2025-01-06 17:05:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> but let's not loose our investigation atleast, if they come to us last minute, because like these we have lot of old tickets that are not traige, if we know a way on how to do it, we can act forward 2025-01-06 17:05:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyhow, we are over time I guess? 2025-01-06 17:05:06 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Exactly. 2025-01-06 17:05:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> aha time 2025-01-06 17:05:42 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !info Next chair Jan 13th: ??? 2025-01-06 17:05:42 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !topic Choose next chair. 2025-01-06 17:05:49 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Any takers? (if not I can take it) 2025-01-06 17:06:17 <@amedvede:fedora.im> I would like to take it 2025-01-06 17:06:22 <@amedvede:fedora.im> )) 2025-01-06 17:06:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> awesome you beat me to it 2025-01-06 17:06:37 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !info Next chair Jan 13th: Anton 2025-01-06 17:06:52 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Skipping open floor then. 2025-01-06 17:06:59 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !endmeeting 2025-01-06 17:06:59 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming!